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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:18 am

Liriena wrote:
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Yugoslavia the fucked up part is it will be along racial ethnic lines and the whole “muh racism” arguement will just prove richard spencer right

This sounds like you preemptively aligning yourself with white supremacists.


If it comes to survival then thats the obvious/rational choice
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Nazeroth wrote:
Liriena wrote:This sounds like you preemptively aligning yourself with white supremacists.


If it comes to survival then thats the obvious choice

Can you seriously not tell that you're allowing yourself to be radicalized?

There is no existential danger to you right now (other than climate change, the rona and the latest collapse of global capitalism, of course). What you're essentially saying is that you are preemptively psyching yourself up for fighting a race war on the white supremacists' side. White supremacists have given you a predetermined ideological narrative, a fantasy, and you're allowing it to warp your perception of the present and get you in a Turner Diaries mood.

Do you realize the meaning of what you just said? What it would look like if it came to be? You're talking about participating in a genocide. Are you really convinced that participating in a genocide is going to be a necessity for your survivial?

There is nothing even remotely rational about imagining yourself as participating in ethnic cleansing to "survive".
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:27 am

Liriena wrote:
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If it comes to survival then thats the obvious choice

Can you seriously not tell that you're allowing yourself to be radicalized?

There is no existential danger to you right now (other than climate change, the rona and the latest collapse of global capitalism, of course). What you're essentially saying is that you are preemptively psyching yourself up for fighting a race war on the white supremacists' side. White supremacists have given you a predetermined ideological narrative, a fantasy, and you're allowing it to warp your perception of the present and get you in a Turner Diaries mood.

Do you realize the meaning of what you just said? What it would look like if it came to be? You're talking about participating in a genocide. Are you really convinced that participating in a genocide is going to be a necessity for your survivial?



Im literally talking about a hypothetical civil war in which i would take the side that offers me my best chance of survival. Your the one talking about genocide
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:29 am

Liriena wrote:
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If it comes to survival then thats the obvious choice

Can you seriously not tell that you're allowing yourself to be radicalized?

There is no existential danger to you right now (other than climate change, the rona and the latest collapse of global capitalism, of course). What you're essentially saying is that you are preemptively psyching yourself up for fighting a race war on the white supremacists' side. White supremacists have given you a predetermined ideological narrative, a fantasy, and you're allowing it to warp your perception of the present and get you in a Turner Diaries mood.

Do you realize the meaning of what you just said? What it would look like if it came to be? You're talking about participating in a genocide. Are you really convinced that participating in a genocide is going to be a necessity for your survivial?


I wouldn't really say there's no existential danger to anyone, pretty much everyone in the States nowadays is at risk of getting attacked cuz of their skin color.

Shit I actually know a guy who's about my age (mid 20's) and is pretty decidedly a liberal anti-Trump type who got the shit kicked out of him by a bunch of BLM supporters last month cuz he was white. Needless to say his views on things have started to change, and I'm sure he's not the only one, for better or worse.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:35 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Liriena wrote:Can you seriously not tell that you're allowing yourself to be radicalized?

There is no existential danger to you right now (other than climate change, the rona and the latest collapse of global capitalism, of course). What you're essentially saying is that you are preemptively psyching yourself up for fighting a race war on the white supremacists' side. White supremacists have given you a predetermined ideological narrative, a fantasy, and you're allowing it to warp your perception of the present and get you in a Turner Diaries mood.

Do you realize the meaning of what you just said? What it would look like if it came to be? You're talking about participating in a genocide. Are you really convinced that participating in a genocide is going to be a necessity for your survivial?



Im literally talking about a hypothetical civil war in which i would take the side that offers me my best chance of survival. Your the one talking about genocide

I pointed out that what you said about Richard Spencer sounded like you preemptively aligning yourself with white supremacists in a civil war you seem convinced is going to happen and is going to happen along racial lines. And your response was:

Nazeroth wrote:
If it comes to survival then thats the obvious/rational choice


Do you mean to tell me you didn't know the implications of it? That you have no idea what a "civil war" in white supremacists' terms would mean? Are you really that ignorant and so callous about your ignorance that you willingly preemptively align yourself with that sort of ideologies without knowing what they entail?
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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:37 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Liriena wrote:Can you seriously not tell that you're allowing yourself to be radicalized?

There is no existential danger to you right now (other than climate change, the rona and the latest collapse of global capitalism, of course). What you're essentially saying is that you are preemptively psyching yourself up for fighting a race war on the white supremacists' side. White supremacists have given you a predetermined ideological narrative, a fantasy, and you're allowing it to warp your perception of the present and get you in a Turner Diaries mood.

Do you realize the meaning of what you just said? What it would look like if it came to be? You're talking about participating in a genocide. Are you really convinced that participating in a genocide is going to be a necessity for your survivial?


I wouldn't really say there's no existential danger to anyone, pretty much everyone in the States nowadays is at risk of getting attacked cuz of their skin color.

Shit I actually know a guy who's about my age (mid 20's) and is pretty decidedly a liberal anti-Trump type who got the shit kicked out of him by a bunch of BLM supporters last month cuz he was white. Needless to say his views on things have started to change, and I'm sure he's not the only one, for better or worse.

I don't blame him, but I hope against hope that what happened to him won't make him impervious to what the good people who make up the vast majority of BLM might have to say, and that they might listen to him in return.

That is the sort of situation that calls for a lot of shared empathy.
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:39 am

Liriena wrote:
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Im literally talking about a hypothetical civil war in which i would take the side that offers me my best chance of survival. Your the one talking about genocide

I pointed out that what you said about Richard Spencer sounded like you preemptively aligning yourself with white supremacists in a civil war you seem convinced is going to happen and is going to happen along racial lines. And your response was:

Nazeroth wrote:
If it comes to survival then thats the obvious/rational choice


Do you mean to tell me you didn't know the implications of it? That you have no idea what a "civil war" in white supremacists' terms would mean? Are you really that ignorant and so callous about your ignorance that you willingly preemptively align yourself with that sort of ideologies without knowing what they entail?



I know what they entail and i know what the oppossing side would entail, one involves me having a chance to survive, if bettering my odds of survival triggers you then uh... tough shit?

You act like whites would be the only ones doing these things in that scenario, which makes me wonder about your views on race.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:47 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Liriena wrote:I pointed out that what you said about Richard Spencer sounded like you preemptively aligning yourself with white supremacists in a civil war you seem convinced is going to happen and is going to happen along racial lines. And your response was:



Do you mean to tell me you didn't know the implications of it? That you have no idea what a "civil war" in white supremacists' terms would mean? Are you really that ignorant and so callous about your ignorance that you willingly preemptively align yourself with that sort of ideologies without knowing what they entail?



I know what they entail and i know what the oppossing side would entail, one involves me having a chance to survive, if bettering my odds of survival triggers you then uh... tough shit?

You act like whites would be the only ones doing these things in that scenario, which makes me wonder about your views on race.

BLM hasn't called for ethnic cleansing. Richard Spencer has. If this is the prelude to a civil war, only the side you've chosen to be on is actively threatening the survival of entire ethnic groups. Your survival as a white person is not at any meaningful risk. Your excuse for preemptively chosing to participate in white supremacist violence is pure fantasy.

Congrats, Nazeroth. You were recruited by a white supremacist movement, and all because you were incapable of putting a single iota of genuinely critical thought into your emotional affinity for their ideological narrative.

Please, be sure to tell us how it all turned out for your oh-so-precious survivial when you get caught trying to shoot up a synagogue to save the white race.
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:48 am

Liriena wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:

I know what they entail and i know what the oppossing side would entail, one involves me having a chance to survive, if bettering my odds of survival triggers you then uh... tough shit?

You act like whites would be the only ones doing these things in that scenario, which makes me wonder about your views on race.

BLM hasn't called for ethnic cleansing. Richard Spencer has. If this is the prelude to a civil war, only the side you've chosen to be on is actively threatening the survival of entire ethnic groups.

Congrats, Nazeroth. You were recruited by a white supremacist movement, and all because you were incapable of putting a single iota of genuinely critical thought into your emotional affinity for their ideological narrative.

Please, be sure to tell us how it all turned out for your oh-so-precious survivial when you get caught trying to shoot up a synagogue to save the white race.



I never “sided” with richard spencer i said that a ethnic/racial split of america would prove him right. Jeeze your so triggered right now. Are you bashing your keyboard?
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:49 am

Given the text description of the incident, this seems like clear cut attempted murder to me. Lock the offending officer up and put him on trial.

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So i guess we just get to the second civil war then huh? Is that where this goes?


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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:51 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Liriena wrote:BLM hasn't called for ethnic cleansing. Richard Spencer has. If this is the prelude to a civil war, only the side you've chosen to be on is actively threatening the survival of entire ethnic groups.

Congrats, Nazeroth. You were recruited by a white supremacist movement, and all because you were incapable of putting a single iota of genuinely critical thought into your emotional affinity for their ideological narrative.

Also blm are fucking communists i would still end up eating a bullet.
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I never “sided” with richard spencer i said that a ethnic/racial split of america would prove him right.

Except you then went on to confirm that you would side with white supremacists in a civil war.

Jeeze your so triggered right now. Are you bashing your keyboard?

Yes and?
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:52 am

Liriena wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:

I never “sided” with richard spencer i said that a ethnic/racial split of america would prove him right.

Except you then went on to confirm that you would side with white supremacists in a civil war.

Jeeze your so triggered right now. Are you bashing your keyboard?

Yes and?


I would side with my race in a hypothetical civil war that fell along racial/ethnic lines, its called common sense.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:53 am

Nazeroth wrote:
Liriena wrote:Except you then went on to confirm that you would side with white supremacists in a civil war.


Yes and?


I would side with my race in a hypothetical civil war that fell along racial/ethnic lines, its called common sense.

And do you believe that that sort of civil war is coming?
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:54 am

Liriena wrote:
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I would side with my race in a hypothetical civil war that fell along racial/ethnic lines, its called common sense.

And do you believe that that sort of civil war is coming?


Civil war? Idk

But i see much more civil unrest. Idk what that has to do with you freaking out about a hypothetical
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:57 am

Nazeroth wrote:Im literally talking about a hypothetical civil war in which i would take the side that offers me my best chance of survival. Your the one talking about genocide

Yet you'd be willingly and knowingly taking the side of many who openly call for and advocate for the ethnic cleansing and genocide of many millions of non-whites in order to form a fascistic white ethnostate.
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:58 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:Im literally talking about a hypothetical civil war in which i would take the side that offers me my best chance of survival. Your the one talking about genocide

Yet you'd be willingly and knowingly taking the side of many who openly call for and advocate for the ethnic cleansing and genocide of many millions of non-whites in order to form a fascistic white ethnostate.


That would depend entirley on who is “in charge” of the white ethnic group in said hypothetical conflict, your making an racist assumption that the “white side” would be white supremacists by default
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The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:Im literally talking about a hypothetical civil war in which i would take the side that offers me my best chance of survival. Your the one talking about genocide

Yet you'd be willingly and knowingly taking the side of many who openly call for and advocate for the ethnic cleansing and genocide of many millions of non-whites in order to form a fascistic white ethnostate.


And those calls for ethnic cleansing and genocide were not a dealbreaker for you.
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I wouldn't really say there's no existential danger to anyone, pretty much everyone in the States nowadays is at risk of getting attacked cuz of their skin color.

Shit I actually know a guy who's about my age (mid 20's) and is pretty decidedly a liberal anti-Trump type who got the shit kicked out of him by a bunch of BLM supporters last month cuz he was white. Needless to say his views on things have started to change, and I'm sure he's not the only one, for better or worse.

I don't blame him, but I hope against hope that what happened to him won't make him impervious to what the good people who make up the vast majority of BLM might have to say, and that they might listen to him in return.

That is the sort of situation that calls for a lot of shared empathy.


It's awfully difficult to empathize with people who go out of their way to hate you, and to hurt you.
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Nazeroth wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Yet you'd be willingly and knowingly taking the side of many who openly call for and advocate for the ethnic cleansing and genocide of many millions of non-whites in order to form a fascistic white ethnostate.


That would depend entirley on who is “in charge” of the white ethnic group in said hypothetical conflict, your making an assumption that the “white side” would be white supremacists by default

At least in America, a hypothetical "race war" would certainly be a bunch of white supremacists and white nationalists and useful idiots and collaborators to their cause (usually those far enough to the right where racism and white supremacy aren't really a dealbreaker for them) fighting non-whites and other whites who don't want to see said non-whites further oppressed, ethnically cleansed and genocided.
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Postby Nazeroth » Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:05 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
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That would depend entirley on who is “in charge” of the white ethnic group in said hypothetical conflict, your making an assumption that the “white side” would be white supremacists by default

At least in America, a hypothetical "race war" would certainly be a bunch of white supremacists and white nationalists and useful idiots and collaborators to their cause (usually those far enough to the right where racism and white supremacy aren't really a dealbreaker for them) fighting non-whites and other whites who don't want to see said non-whites further oppressed, ethnically cleansed and genocided.


Considering white nationalists are a very small section of america its more likley to be a conservative/christian/nationalist group in charge and not the made up brainwashed marxist fantasy you just presented where everyone is goose stepping
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:07 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
That would depend entirley on who is “in charge” of the white ethnic group in said hypothetical conflict, your making an assumption that the “white side” would be white supremacists by default

At least in America, a hypothetical "race war" would certainly be a bunch of white supremacists and white nationalists and useful idiots and collaborators to their cause (usually those far enough to the right where racism and white supremacy aren't really a dealbreaker for them) fighting non-whites and other whites who don't want to see said non-whites further oppressed, ethnically cleansed and genocided.


This badly underestimates how many black nationalists and Hispanic equivalents there are.
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Postby Glorious Hong Kong » Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:02 am

Liriena wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:some shooting lasers into officers eyes etc etc etc

Yes and? That's a fantastic, effective, non-violent way to protect protests from police brutality. The Chilean protests last year did it to great effect. They even took down drones with it.


Judging from his description alone, it seems that aside from the looting, these "riots" are no more violent than the ones in HK, where laser pointers were also pointed at people's eyes and the police made a huge fuss about it. By that logic, concert-goers and teens partying late into the night should be SWATTED and charged with terrorism-related offenses "because the neighbors were scared".
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