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Postby Occidens Praseodymia » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:14 am

Sanghyeok wrote:
Occidens Praseodymia wrote:Oh, give me a break


No you

Grow up.

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Postby Andsed » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:14 am

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The New California Republic wrote:Is it ethical to kill mosquitoes and insects that spread diseases. Hmm, let me think about that one.

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Develop a bloody vaccine for god's sake.

A vaccine is no way a cure all. There are things we cannot vaccinate for, people who cannot get vaccinated(either for medical reasons or the vaccine not being available) and the simple fact a vaccine, while very effective most of the time, can fail on occasion.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:14 am

Occidens Praseodymia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:This thread is a demonstrative example of why people hate vegans. I will put this very, very simply and slowly for you.
WE LIKE EATING MEAT. IT'S TASTY. AND WE BLOODY WELL KNOW IT COMES FROM THE ENSLAVEMENT AND MASS MURDER OF LIVING THINGS. WE JUST DON'T CARE.

Thank you.

AND THAT'S WHY WE VEGANS HATE YOU OMNIVORES.
IF YOUR ONLY JUSTIFICATION TO EAT MEAT AND DAIRY IS JUST BECAUSE IT'S "TASTY" THEN THAT IS JUST SO FUCKING SELFISH. VEGAN ALTERNATIVES TASTE VIRTUALLY THE SAME AS MEAT, OR IF IT ISN'T THAT SIMILAR, STILL AS NICE, BUT IN DIFFERENT WAYS. OPEN YOUR MIND. EXPLORE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. DONT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.

No no they don’t. Vegan alternatives do not taste virtually the same. Unless you have no taste buds
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Postby Heloin » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:15 am

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The New California Republic wrote:There are a lot of diseases carried by insects that we cannot create vaccines for, so that oversimplistic handwaving is total nonsense.

If we find medical research rather than animal agriculture. Then we would have a vaccine.

This may shock you, but ranchers and doctors don't share the same profession.

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Postby Occidens Praseodymia » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:15 am

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Occidens Praseodymia wrote:How?

Throwing someones blood on someone else? Very unhygienic.

I didn't mean "bloody" literally. It's a British thing. I do apologize.

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Postby Occidens Praseodymia » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:16 am

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Occidens Praseodymia wrote:If we find medical research rather than animal agriculture. Then we would have a vaccine.

This may shock you, but ranchers and doctors don't share the same profession.

Of course not. But if there's no animal agriculture, then we won't have to spend anything on it.

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Postby Andsed » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:16 am

Occidens Praseodymia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:There are a lot of diseases carried by insects that we cannot create vaccines for, so that oversimplistic handwaving is total nonsense.

If we find medical research rather than animal agriculture. Then we would have a vaccine.

Not really. There are just things we cannot vaccinate for that no amount of funding and research can really change. And again vaccines are not a cure all.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:16 am

Occidens Praseodymia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:There are a lot of diseases carried by insects that we cannot create vaccines for, so that oversimplistic handwaving is total nonsense.

If we find medical research rather than animal agriculture. Then we would have a vaccine.

Lol. No. Throwing money at something does not magically make the impossible possible.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:16 am

Occidens Praseodymia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What you don’t think that a crude YouTube video could expose the shady government?!?!1!1!1

It's no different than the originals, just free and on YouTube.

Ya no. YouTube videos claiming conspiracy that the government doesn’t want you to know is just lunacy
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Postby Occidens Praseodymia » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:16 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Occidens Praseodymia wrote:AND THAT'S WHY WE VEGANS HATE YOU OMNIVORES.
IF YOUR ONLY JUSTIFICATION TO EAT MEAT AND DAIRY IS JUST BECAUSE IT'S "TASTY" THEN THAT IS JUST SO FUCKING SELFISH. VEGAN ALTERNATIVES TASTE VIRTUALLY THE SAME AS MEAT, OR IF IT ISN'T THAT SIMILAR, STILL AS NICE, BUT IN DIFFERENT WAYS. OPEN YOUR MIND. EXPLORE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. DONT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.

No no they don’t. Vegan alternatives do not taste virtually the same. Unless you have no taste buds

No, they taste better.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:17 am

Occidens Praseodymia wrote:
Galloism wrote:

“Cowspiracy” is a great name. While we could all stand to eat less meat, “animal Holocaust” is a ridiculous statement.

Why? Pigs are rounded and gassed, just as the Jews were during the Holocaust.

Comparing Jews to pigs how wonderful
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Postby Andsed » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:17 am

Occidens Praseodymia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No no they don’t. Vegan alternatives do not taste virtually the same. Unless you have no taste buds

No, they taste better.

That is debatable.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:17 am

Occidens Praseodymia wrote:
Heloin wrote:This may shock you, but ranchers and doctors don't share the same profession.

Of course not. But if there's no animal agriculture, then we won't have to spend anything on it.

You do know that medical research involves animal testing?
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Postby Celritannia » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:17 am

I'd like to point out, let's say going vegan and removing these farms were possible (farmers would probably be cull most of them anyway, not matter how many you try and save), what about pets that eat a meat based diet like cats and dogs?
They have become so domesticated that they can't hunt for food (well, maybe some cats but it's rare). They need a high meat based diet.

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Postby Occidens Praseodymia » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:17 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Occidens Praseodymia wrote:It's no different than the originals, just free and on YouTube.

Ya no. YouTube videos claiming conspiracy that the government doesn’t want you to know is just lunacy

It's not a YouTube video. Well, yes it is. But it was originally a real documentary.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:18 am

Galloism wrote:
Occidens Praseodymia wrote:I know. I didn't say I support that.

We actually gas a lot of bugs. We even sell bug bombs people can use to gas their own houses while they’re away.

Pretty effective too.


What's wrong with killing bugs? If we could all just agree that it's OK to kill bugs, then meat eaters could have their meat and vegans could have their veg, nobody would be bothered by flies and we'd all rest lighter on the planet!

I know grasshoppers don't look that appetizing, not much meat on the so to speak, but they grow very quickly, eat easily available green leafy vegetation, and need far less water than big farm animals.

And we haven't even started improving them by breeding or genetic engineering! Look forward to a big juicy green grasshopper steak, totally natural* and guilt-free!

I'm thinking of trademarking "Fatasshopper," whatcha think?
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Postby Occidens Praseodymia » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:18 am

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Occidens Praseodymia wrote:Of course not. But if there's no animal agriculture, then we won't have to spend anything on it.

You do know that medical research involves animal testing?

It doesn't have to be.

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:19 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Galloism wrote:We actually gas a lot of bugs. We even sell bug bombs people can use to gas their own houses while they’re away.

Pretty effective too.


What's wrong with killing bugs? If we could all just agree that it's OK to kill bugs, then meat eaters could have their meat and vegans could have their veg, nobody would be bothered by flies and we'd all rest lighter on the planet!

I know grasshoppers don't look that appetizing, not much meat on the so to speak, but they grow very quickly, eat easily available green leafy vegetation, and need far less water than big farm animals.

And we haven't even started improving them by breeding or genetic engineering! Look forward to a big juicy green grasshopper steak, totally natural* and guilt-free!

I'm thinking of trademarking "Fatasshopper," whatcha think?

I wouldn't be opposed to exterminating wasps, aside from whatever negative environmental impacts that may have.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:19 am

Occidens Praseodymia wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:You do know that medical research involves animal testing?

It doesn't have to be.

It kinda does.
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Postby Occidens Praseodymia » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:19 am

Celritannia wrote:I'd like to point out, let's say going vegan and removing these farms were possible (farmers would probably be cull most of them anyway, not matter how many you try and save), what about pets that eat a meat based diet like cats and dogs?
They have become so domesticated that they can't hunt for food (well, maybe some cats but it's rare). They need a high meat based diet.

I have thought about this.
I would, personally, ban pets. But I don't thing anyone is in favour of that whatsoever.

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Postby Heloin » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:19 am

Occidens Praseodymia wrote:
Heloin wrote:Throwing someones blood on someone else? Very unhygienic.

I didn't mean "bloody" literally. It's a British thing. I do apologize.

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Occidens Praseodymia wrote:
Heloin wrote:This may shock you, but ranchers and doctors don't share the same profession.

Of course not. But if there's no animal agriculture, then we won't have to spend anything on it.

That's not how money works. A bunch of unemployed ranchers doesn't suddenly mean vaccines for every disease that we've been trying to get rid of for the last 100 years.

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Postby Andsed » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:20 am

Occidens Praseodymia wrote:
Celritannia wrote:I'd like to point out, let's say going vegan and removing these farms were possible (farmers would probably be cull most of them anyway, not matter how many you try and save), what about pets that eat a meat based diet like cats and dogs?
They have become so domesticated that they can't hunt for food (well, maybe some cats but it's rare). They need a high meat based diet.

I have thought about this.
I would, personally, ban pets. But I don't thing anyone is in favour of that whatsoever.

Because that idea is dumb.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:20 am

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Occidens Praseodymia wrote:It's crazy to see how much people actually support this stuff. Well done propaganda. :clap:

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:20 am

Occidens Praseodymia wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:You do know that medical research involves animal testing?

It doesn't have to be.


Perhaps you'd like to volunteer for one of the stage 1 trials of a coronavirus vaccine?

I'm sure they could make up a bed on the floor of the monkey lab. You wouldn't have to actually live in a cage.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:20 am

Occidens Praseodymia wrote:
Celritannia wrote:I'd like to point out, let's say going vegan and removing these farms were possible (farmers would probably be cull most of them anyway, not matter how many you try and save), what about pets that eat a meat based diet like cats and dogs?
They have become so domesticated that they can't hunt for food (well, maybe some cats but it's rare). They need a high meat based diet.

I have thought about this.
I would, personally, ban pets. But I don't thing anyone is in favour of that whatsoever.

After banning the pets, what do we do with them?

I mean, we could do as PETA does, but that would get people up in arms...
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