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Solvokina wrote:

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I forgot you were our denizen Yugoslav for a second.

Do not forget I'm your local Yugo-Australian who loves guns and hates Neo-Liberalism

You're Tony the Yugoslav lmao.

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

Solvokina wrote:Do not forget I'm your local Yugo-Australian who loves guns and hates Neo-Liberalism

You're Tony the Yugoslav lmao.

Yes

Cisairse wrote:"Ending your presidential campaign after losing several primaries" is, generally, referred to as "losing,"

You're still fucking wrong. LBJ WON New Hampshire and dropped out without losing ANY primaries.

LBJ dropped out two weeks after Robert Kennedy entered. Sure, opinion polls looked bad for LBJ, but he didn't lose ANY primaries.

There are few heroes in politics, but a sick old leader who stands aside for a younger, more popular person he doesn't even like ... because the younger man has a better chance of winning for the party ... is a hero to that party even if they don't win after all.

There is no way LBJ could have foreseen Robert Kennedy's killing. Without that, the unrest at the '68 convention would likely not have happened, Kennedy would have won against that proven loser Nixon and you would still know nothing about modern American history.

Kannap wrote:

San Lumen wrote:
Yes but he didn't;t officially lose the primary. He dropped out. There is a difference.

Sounds like a loser to me.

LBJ dropped out 2 weeks after Robert Kennedy got in the race. Before that, polls had LBJ the strong favorite.

Nixon lost the first time, standing on the shoulders of Eisenhower. He'd have lost again if some terrorist from your side hadn't fancied himself the well regulated militia. You want to talk about losers ...

Solvokina wrote:

Kannap wrote:
Glad you agree Greens should be on the Wisconsin ballot.

Or greens can fuck off with their false shit. I still wonder who unironically votes greens to this day

I vote Green. In fact, I didn't even preference Labor a few times when Bob Brown was the Green leader. The man was awesome.

Solvokina wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:lmfao you're really gonna pretend to give a damn about peoples' rights and liberties after praising dictatorships and one-party states? pull the other one my dude

Democracy is a sham that can violate right while a dictatorship if benevolent can be praised e.g Tito. At this point politically under a dictatorship can work and give rights to people unless you are a Totaliatrian like Stalin or Hitler

Yeah, every bad thing you can think of about democracies? It applies one hundredfold when there's an asshole dictator. And assholes in democracy are, from what I've seen a lot easier to oust than assholes in dictatorships.

Solvokina wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:lmfao you're really gonna pretend to give a damn about peoples' rights and liberties after praising dictatorships and one-party states? pull the other one my dude

Democracy is a sham that can violate right while a dictatorship if benevolent ...

Yeah, I see your mistake there.

>All democracy bad because most democracy mediocre at best
>All dictatorship good because sometimes dictatorship quite good

I guess you're so desperately bored with predictable, mediocre democracy that you want to roll a dice on dictatorship.

No, young man! Dictatorship with the trappings of legitimacy should be your choice. You should be an absolute Monarchist!

Necroghastia wrote:

Solvokina wrote:Democracy is a sham that can violate right while a dictatorship if benevolent can be praised e.g Tito. At this point politically under a dictatorship can work and give rights to people unless you are a Totaliatrian like Stalin or Hitler

Yeah, every bad thing you can think of about democracies? It applies one hundredfold when there's an asshole dictator. And assholes in democracy are, from what I've seen a lot easier to oust than assholes in dictatorships.

I don't care, I'm tired of the same shits running office and doing the same corrupt shit. Democracy used to be cool, but now its ruined

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Yeah, I see your mistake there.

>All democracy bad because most democracy mediocre at best
>All dictatorship good because sometimes dictatorship quite good

I guess you're so desperately bored with predictable, mediocre democracy that you want to roll a dice on dictatorship.

No, young man! Dictatorship with the trappings of legitimacy should be your choice. You should be an absolute Monarchist!

Monarchists are gay. I want a Communist Dictatorship

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:

Solvokina wrote:Or greens can fuck off with their false shit. I still wonder who unironically votes greens to this day

I vote Green. In fact, I didn't even preference Labor a few times when Bob Brown was the Green leader. The man was awesome.

A good green is a dead one. I'm definitely voting SA Labor as the current leader wants Nuclear Power implemented

Solvokina wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:Yeah, every bad thing you can think of about democracies? It applies one hundredfold when there's an asshole dictator. And assholes in democracy are, from what I've seen a lot easier to oust than assholes in dictatorships.

I don't care, I'm tired of the same shits running office and doing the same corrupt shit. Democracy used to be cool, but now its ruined

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Yeah, I see your mistake there.

>All democracy bad because most democracy mediocre at best
>All dictatorship good because sometimes dictatorship quite good

I guess you're so desperately bored with predictable, mediocre democracy that you want to roll a dice on dictatorship.

No, young man! Dictatorship with the trappings of legitimacy should be your choice. You should be an absolute Monarchist!

Monarchists are gay. I want a Communist Dictatorship

Trust me, I think no one here would like to live under a communist dictatorship of any kind, like in Cuba as an average Cuban citizen, I am a native Cuban and an American citizen. But I will never tell you on Trump, the Republicans, The Democrats, Joe Biden, Cuba or any issues I am right and you are wrong. I will post my posts and leave it there. I said I think.

The USA under Trump or any American President with all its faults and merits is much better to live under. The same goes for other western style multi political party nation governments.

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

Solvokina wrote:I don't care, I'm tired of the same shits running office and doing the same corrupt shit. Democracy used to be cool, but now its ruined


Monarchists are gay. I want a Communist Dictatorship

Trust me, I think no one here would like to live under a communist dictatorship of any kind, like in Cuba as an average Cuban citizen, I am a native Cuban and an American citizen. But I will never tell you on Trump, the Republicans, The Democrats, Joe Biden, Cuba or any issues I am right and you are wrong. I will post my posts and leave it there. I said I think.

The USA under Trump or any American President with all its faults and merits is much better to live under. The same goes for other western style multi political party nation governments.

My parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts all lived under one and said it was a paradise. Hell my great-grandpa was a Partizan and fought with Tito to establish a new Yugoslavia

My dad said even if Trump told people how bad the coronavirus was, nobody would believe him.

That absolves DT how?

Solvokina wrote:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:Trust me, I think no one here would like to live under a communist dictatorship of any kind, like in Cuba as an average Cuban citizen, I am a native Cuban and an American citizen. But I will never tell you on Trump, the Republicans, The Democrats, Joe Biden, Cuba or any issues I am right and you are wrong. I will post my posts and leave it there. I said I think.

The USA under Trump or any American President with all its faults and merits is much better to live under. The same goes for other western style multi political party nation governments.

My parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts all lived under one and said it was a paradise. Hell my great-grandpa was a Partizan and fought with Tito to establish a new Yugoslavia

I only have two, one I would call a mid level Cuban government official, but known, If I were to provide you with his name, with a little research on your part you would know about him. He does not consider me family anymore and I don't consider him family anymore.

I have a relative so high up in the Cuban regime, he knew Fidel personally. I cant provide you with the names for private family security reasons.

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

Solvokina wrote:I don't care, I'm tired of the same shits running office and doing the same corrupt shit. Democracy used to be cool, but now its ruined


Monarchists are gay. I want a Communist Dictatorship

Trust me, I think no one here would like to live under a communist dictatorship of any kind, like in Cuba as an average Cuban citizen, I am a native Cuban and an American citizen. But I will never tell you on Trump, the Republicans, The Democrats, Joe Biden, Cuba or any issues I am right and you are wrong. I will post my posts and leave it there. I said I think.

The USA under Trump or any American President with all its faults and merits is much better to live under. The same goes for other western style multi political party nation governments.

Correction. Other western style democracies are great to live under and the US is a train wreck.

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

Solvokina wrote:My parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts all lived under one and said it was a paradise. Hell my great-grandpa was a Partizan and fought with Tito to establish a new Yugoslavia

I only have two, one I would call a mid level Cuban government official, but known, If I were to provide you with his name, with a little research on your part you would know about him. He does not consider me family anymore and I don't consider him family anymore.

I have a relative so high up in the Cuban regime, he knew Fidel personally. I cant provide you with the names for private family security reasons.

I don't think anyone was asking for their names, nor do I think anyone cares on a topic about the US General Election.

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:Trust me, I think no one here would like to live under a communist dictatorship of any kind, like in Cuba as an average Cuban citizen, I am a native Cuban and an American citizen. But I will never tell you on Trump, the Republicans, The Democrats, Joe Biden, Cuba or any issues I am right and you are wrong. I will post my posts and leave it there. I said I think.

The USA under Trump or any American President with all its faults and merits is much better to live under. The same goes for other western style multi political party nation governments.

Correction. Other western style democracies are great to live under and the US is a train wreck.

I am not surprised or shocked by your post, according to your self declared views as a self declared socialist.

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

Solvokina wrote:I don't care, I'm tired of the same shits running office and doing the same corrupt shit. Democracy used to be cool, but now its ruined


Monarchists are gay. I want a Communist Dictatorship

Trust me, I think no one here would like to live under a communist dictatorship of any kind, like in Cuba as an average Cuban citizen, I am a native Cuban and an American citizen. But I will never tell you on Trump, the Republicans, The Democrats, Joe Biden, Cuba or any issues I am right and you are wrong. I will post my posts and leave it there. I said I think.
The USA under Trump or any American President with all its faults and merits is much better to live under. The same goes for other western style multi political party nation governments.

Blah blah spam. Struck out.

Did you ever answer my question, whether you yourself have been to Cuba as an adult?

It's relevant because you're supporting a poster who claims people who haven't lived in a Socialist or Communist country, AREN'T entitled to an opinion about how good it is. But people who haven't lived in a Socialist or Communist country, ARE entitled to an opinion about how bad it is. Hearsay evidence is not acceptable apparently, unless it's in favor of the "bad" side ...

Now we have Solvokina saying he lived in Yugoslavia when it was a Communist Dictatorship and it was good.

This is one of those times when your personal anecdote would be welcome. Have you seen for yourself how bad Cuba is?

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:

Cisairse wrote:"Ending your presidential campaign after losing several primaries" is, generally, referred to as "losing,"

You're still fucking wrong. LBJ WON New Hampshire and dropped out without losing ANY primaries.

LBJ dropped out two weeks after Robert Kennedy entered. Sure, opinion polls looked bad for LBJ, but he didn't lose ANY primaries.

There are few heroes in politics, but a sick old leader who stands aside for a younger, more popular person he doesn't even like ... because the younger man has a better chance of winning for the party ... is a hero to that party even if they don't win after all.

There is no way LBJ could have foreseen Robert Kennedy's killing. Without that, the unrest at the '68 convention would likely not have happened, Kennedy would have won against that proven loser Nixon and you would still know nothing about modern American history.

Kannap wrote:
Sounds like a loser to me.

LBJ dropped out 2 weeks after Robert Kennedy got in the race. Before that, polls had LBJ the strong favorite.

Nixon lost the first time, standing on the shoulders of Eisenhower. He'd have lost again if some terrorist from your side hadn't fancied himself the well regulated militia. You want to talk about losers ...

Some terrorist from my side?

Celritannia wrote:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:I only have two, one I would call a mid level Cuban government official, but known, If I were to provide you with his name, with a little research on your part you would know about him. He does not consider me family anymore and I don't consider him family anymore.

I have a relative so high up in the Cuban regime, he knew Fidel personally. I cant provide you with the names for private family security reasons.

I don't think anyone was asking for their names, nor do I think anyone cares on a topic about the US General Election.

This back and forth only happened because of this, please read, this back and forth is settled and over with:
viewtopic.php?p=37657934#p37657934

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Correction. Other western style democracies are great to live under and the US is a train wreck.

I am not surprised or shocked by your post, according to your self declared views as a self declared socialist.

We might have free healthcare and finally join the developed world's standard of medical care. Oh the horror!

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Correction. Other western style democracies are great to live under and the US is a train wreck.

I am not surprised or shocked by your post, according to your self declared views as a self declared socialist left wing liberterian, probably a social democrat.

Fixed it. It wasn't accurate nor true.

Rusozak wrote:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:I am not surprised or shocked by your post, according to your self declared views as a self declared socialist.

We might have free healthcare and finally join the developed world's standard of medical care. Oh the horror!

Nah that's communism. We gotta let people starve to show how uncommunistic we are.

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

Celritannia wrote:
I don't think anyone was asking for their names, nor do I think anyone cares on a topic about the US General Election.

This back and forth only happened because of this, please read, this back and forth is settled and over with:
viewtopic.php?p=37657934#p37657934

I did read it, and I rolled my eyes. But still isn't necessary.

Kannap wrote:

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
You're still fucking wrong. LBJ WON New Hampshire and dropped out without losing ANY primaries.

LBJ dropped out two weeks after Robert Kennedy entered. Sure, opinion polls looked bad for LBJ, but he didn't lose ANY primaries.

There are few heroes in politics, but a sick old leader who stands aside for a younger, more popular person he doesn't even like ... because the younger man has a better chance of winning for the party ... is a hero to that party even if they don't win after all.

There is no way LBJ could have foreseen Robert Kennedy's killing. Without that, the unrest at the '68 convention would likely not have happened, Kennedy would have won against that proven loser Nixon and you would still know nothing about modern American history.




LBJ dropped out 2 weeks after Robert Kennedy got in the race. Before that, polls had LBJ the strong favorite.

Nixon lost the first time, standing on the shoulders of Eisenhower. He'd have lost again if some terrorist from your side hadn't fancied himself the well regulated militia. You want to talk about losers ...

Some terrorist from my side?

Aren't you guys both left wing? How are you on different sides?

Rusozak wrote:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:I am not surprised or shocked by your post, according to your self declared views as a self declared socialist.

We might have free healthcare and finally join the developed world's standard of medical care. Oh the horror!

Not unless we stop paying hundreds of billions to protect our so called allies in Europe from big daddy Putin because they have too small an economy and population to defend for themselves and has had to rely on the U.S. for over 70 years.

Dresderstan wrote:

Rusozak wrote:
We might have free healthcare and finally join the developed world's standard of medical care. Oh the horror!

Not unless we stop paying hundreds of billions to protect our so called allies in Europe from big daddy Putin because they have too small an economy and population to defend for themselves and has had to rely on the U.S. for over 70 years.

No, just...no.
The US could cut it's military by half and still spend more than any other nation.