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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:22 pm

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:I would not blame Hillary, I would blame the virus. But I am happy Hillary did not become President and Republican President Trump won.


The virus isn't a supervillain, it's not Voldemort in the Harry Potter series. It'd be watching an earthquake and tsunami hit California and then the governor refuses to provide any kind of aid or rescue and lots of people die as a result and then saying "darn evil earthquake and tsunami."

No, things like this happen. And when they happen it falls on humans, particularly those in charge, to act. Failure to act effectively or efficiently has led to the deaths of nearly 200,000 Americans and you bet your fucking ass I'm blaming those in power for it.

Especially when others have managed to not completely fucker their response.
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Postby Cordel One » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:23 pm

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Gravlen wrote:Aaron Coleman in Kansas reportedly resigns, leaves the race.


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Good riddance

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Postby Andsed » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:27 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Kannap wrote:
The virus isn't a supervillain, it's not Voldemort in the Harry Potter series. It'd be watching an earthquake and tsunami hit California and then the governor refuses to provide any kind of aid or rescue and lots of people die as a result and then saying "darn evil earthquake and tsunami."

No, things like this happen. And when they happen it falls on humans, particularly those in charge, to act. Failure to act effectively or efficiently has led to the deaths of nearly 200,000 Americans and you bet your fucking ass I'm blaming those in power for it.

Especially when others have managed to not completely fucker their response.

Gonna sound like a broken record here, but I think the best example here is India. A nation with a larger population and higher population density has only around 56,000 deaths. We have around 3 times that. It is just fucking ridiculous how incompetent Trumps response was.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:32 pm

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Cannot think of a name wrote:Especially when others have managed to not completely fucker their response.

Gonna sound like a broken record here, but I think the best example here is India. A nation with a larger population and higher population density has only around 56,000 deaths. We have around 3 times that. It is just fucking ridiculous how incompetent Trumps response was.

Not when you realize he's not actually that smart. Donny is not a well rounded individual. He's basically a narcissistic poser. Same as he ever was. Jeez. Why couldn't people figure this out on 2016? Why is he even remotely competitive in 2020?
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:44 pm

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:I would not blame Hillary, I would blame the virus. But I am happy Hillary did not become President and Republican President Trump won.


The virus isn't a supervillain, it's not Voldemort in the Harry Potter series. It'd be watching an earthquake and tsunami hit California and then the governor refuses to provide any kind of aid or rescue and lots of people die as a result and then saying "darn evil earthquake and tsunami."

No, things like this happen. And when they happen it falls on humans, particularly those in charge, to act. Failure to act effectively or efficiently has led to the deaths of nearly 200,000 Americans and you bet your fucking ass I'm blaming those in power for it.

Lets all admit it, the virus is infecting and killing Americans and persons all over the world, not President Trump or any world leader. You blame Trump for the virus deaths. How did they die? The virus killed them. Have Americans and people throughout the world been wearing masks and social distancing while people died? Yes. But all of you and I have been wearing the masks and social distancing and we have not died. Many of you are still working while wearing the masks and social distancing, the only thing we can do and have been doing. President Trump or a President Biden cant do no different. So I hope President Trump wins as a Republican which I am. Just like you all hope Biden wins as Democrats and Democrat supporters you are. But I hope President Trump wins, I am not a Democrat, I am a Republican supporter of President Trump to keep Making America Great Again, according to my Political views, and there is nothing wrong with it.

We need to open up the economy while wearing the masks and social distancing, which businesses are requiring workers and customers to do so. The only other alternative is lets close the grocery stores and gas stations, lets close all businesses and no one should get infected, infect others and die from the virus, I said should not, I did not say well not.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:48 pm

Boris Johnson got it, Bolsonaro got it (twice i think), Irans vice president got it.

Few others too i think.


Also we can blame trump for americans dying of the virus, because he was a colossally inept retard who had no idea what the fuck he was doing and botched the response then did his usual " Nah its everyone elses fault, my tv ratings are bigly"
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:50 pm

We 100% can blame Trump for the death toll because he's a useless sack of shit who has bungled every step of the response.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:50 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Boris Johnson got it, Bolsonaro got it (twice i think), Irans vice president got it.

Few others too i think.


Also we can blame trump for americans dying of the virus, because he was a colossally inept retard who had no idea what the fuck he was doing and botched the response then did his usual " Nah its everyone elses fault, my tv ratings are bigly"

Who or what is killing Americans and persons throughout the world during this international virus crisis, Trump or the virus?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:51 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Boris Johnson got it, Bolsonaro got it (twice i think), Irans vice president got it.

Few others too i think.


Also we can blame trump for americans dying of the virus, because he was a colossally inept retard who had no idea what the fuck he was doing and botched the response then did his usual " Nah its everyone elses fault, my tv ratings are bigly"

Who or what is killing Americans and persons throughout the world during this international virus crisis, Trump or the virus?

BOTH.
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Postby Andsed » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:51 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Kannap wrote:
The virus isn't a supervillain, it's not Voldemort in the Harry Potter series. It'd be watching an earthquake and tsunami hit California and then the governor refuses to provide any kind of aid or rescue and lots of people die as a result and then saying "darn evil earthquake and tsunami."

No, things like this happen. And when they happen it falls on humans, particularly those in charge, to act. Failure to act effectively or efficiently has led to the deaths of nearly 200,000 Americans and you bet your fucking ass I'm blaming those in power for it.

Lets all admit it, the virus is infecting and killing Americans and persons all over the world, not President Trump or any world leader. You blame Trump for the virus deaths. How did they die? The virus killed them. Have Americans and people throughout the world been wearing masks and social distancing while people died? Yes. But all of you and I have been wearing the masks and social distancing and we have not died. Many of you are still working while wearing the masks and social distancing, the only thing we can do and have been doing. President Trump or a President Biden cant do no different. So I hope President Trump wins as a Republican which I am. Just like you all hope Biden wins as Democrats and Democrat supporters you are. But I hope President Trump wins, I am not a Democrat, I am a Republican supporter of President Trump to keep making America Great Again, according to my Political views, and there is nothing wrong with it.

We need to open up the economy while wearing the masks and social distancing, which businesses are requiring workers and customers to do so. The only other alternative is lets close the grocery stores and gas stations, lets close all businesses and no one should get infected, infect others and die from the virus, I said should not, I did not say well not.

Just because Trump did not directly kill COVID patients does not mean he is not responsible for their deaths. It was him and his administration that fucked up our response beyond repair and led to the virus spreading so quickly. You can fucking deflect to whatever you want, but at the end of the day Trump was the one who fucked the response to COVID. It was his incompetent response that has gotten tens of thousands of Americans killed and put us in a position where reopening is not feasible for some time. Trump is responsible for it and he deserves the blame.
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Postby Jedi Council » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:52 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Kannap wrote:
The virus isn't a supervillain, it's not Voldemort in the Harry Potter series. It'd be watching an earthquake and tsunami hit California and then the governor refuses to provide any kind of aid or rescue and lots of people die as a result and then saying "darn evil earthquake and tsunami."

No, things like this happen. And when they happen it falls on humans, particularly those in charge, to act. Failure to act effectively or efficiently has led to the deaths of nearly 200,000 Americans and you bet your fucking ass I'm blaming those in power for it.

Lets all admit it, the virus is infecting and killing Americans and persons all over the world, not President Trump or any world leader. You blame Trump for the virus deaths. How did they die? The virus killed them. Have Americans and people throughout the world been wearing masks and social distancing while people died? Yes. But all of you and I have been wearing the masks and social distancing and we have not died. Many of you are still working while wearing the masks and social distancing, the only thing we can do and have been doing. President Trump or a President Biden cant do no different. So I hope President Trump wins as a Republican which I am. Just like you all hope Biden wins as Democrats and Democrat supporters you are. But I hope President Trump wins, I am not a Democrat, I am a Republican supporter of President Trump to keep Making America Great Again, according to my Political views, and there is nothing wrong with it.

We need to open up the economy while wearing the masks and social distancing, which businesses are requiring workers and customers to do so. The only other alternative is lets close the grocery stores and gas stations, lets close all businesses and no one should get infected, infect others and die from the virus, I said should not, I did not say well not.

Do you not realize how shitty Trumps response was?

Do you think Biden would have called it a hoax? Or not worn a mask for weeks? Or say it will all go away on it's own? Or countless other examples of idiocy?

You might like him, I dont really care if you vote for him, but the fact is, the US is hurting far more than other countries, because of the virus yes, but also because the President is a total moron who is scientifically illiterate and lives in his own reality.

It is not an opinion to say Trump screwed up the response to Covid-19. It is a fact. If a President Clinton, or a President Biden, had acted like Trump has these past few months, a vast majority of us would be calling them out for it too.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:53 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Boris Johnson got it, Bolsonaro got it (twice i think), Irans vice president got it.

Few others too i think.


Also we can blame trump for americans dying of the virus, because he was a colossally inept retard who had no idea what the fuck he was doing and botched the response then did his usual " Nah its everyone elses fault, my tv ratings are bigly"

Who or what is killing Americans and persons throughout the world during this international virus crisis, Trump or the virus?


Trump because of his refusal to actually lead.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:55 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Who or what is killing Americans and persons throughout the world during this international virus crisis, Trump or the virus?

BOTH.

lol, nice try, I am having a lol attack not at you at this post, :) :rofl:
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:55 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:BOTH.

lol, nice try, I am having a lol attack not at you at this post, :) :rofl:

Oh look a lol attack, the other thing you can say besides a load of inane senseless drivel.

Like seriously, can you conjure any argument that doesnt consist of the same regurgitated stuff about you simultaneously being and not being a cultist and throwing word salad about opinions and facts at the keyboard?
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Postby La Xinga » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:56 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Who or what is killing Americans and persons throughout the world during this international virus crisis, Trump or the virus?


Trump because of his refusal to actually lead.

Refusal to actually lead?

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Postby Andsed » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:56 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Boris Johnson got it, Bolsonaro got it (twice i think), Irans vice president got it.

Few others too i think.


Also we can blame trump for americans dying of the virus, because he was a colossally inept retard who had no idea what the fuck he was doing and botched the response then did his usual " Nah its everyone elses fault, my tv ratings are bigly"

Who or what is killing Americans and persons throughout the world during this international virus crisis, Trump or the virus?

Just because Trump may not have directly killed people does not mean he does not hold much of the blame for how bad COVID has gotten here. Is he not the president? Is he not the one who is supposed to lead the nation in our responses to crises like this? Because he is and he failed in almost every possible way
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:57 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:BOTH.

lol, nice try, I am having a lol attack not at you at this post, :) :rofl:


Don't know what you're laughing about. Your leader singlehandedly screwed up so badly, more Americans died than in 9/11 and pearl harbor combined, and by more I mean many more.

Not surprised a guy who thinks Yosemite national park is pronounced Yo Semite would screw up like that.
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Postby Jedi Council » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:57 pm

La xinga wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Trump because of his refusal to actually lead.

Refusal to actually lead?

He couldn't lead his way out of a paper bag
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:58 pm

Daily reminder that when confronted with the fact 170k Americans have died of coronavirus in the axios interview, the president, Donald J Trump said "it is what it is" then fumbled a fucking graph in his hands that he couldnt read properly.

He also said "You cant do that" when the interviewer said he was looking at deaths in regards to population.
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Postby Jedi Council » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:59 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Daily reminder that when confronted with the fact 170k Americans have died of coronavirus in the axios interview, the president, Donald J Trump said "it is what it is" then fumbled a fucking graph in his hands that he couldnt read properly.

He also said "You cant do that" when the interviewer said he was looking at deaths in regards to population.

That Axios interview should be required watching in stats classes.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:02 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Daily reminder that when confronted with the fact 170k Americans have died of coronavirus in the axios interview, the president, Donald J Trump said "it is what it is" then fumbled a fucking graph in his hands that he couldnt read properly.

He also said "You cant do that" when the interviewer said he was looking at deaths in regards to population.

That Axios interview should be required watching in stats classes.

The Axios interview is a prime example of how utterly wrong that man is in the head. I mean seriously, he is a genuine fucking idiot and a malicious one at that who poses genuine risk to the people of the United States.

See if he wins the election this year, no offence but there is something seriously wrong with America.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:03 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Daily reminder that when confronted with the fact 170k Americans have died of coronavirus in the axios interview, the president, Donald J Trump said "it is what it is" then fumbled a fucking graph in his hands that he couldnt read properly.

He also said "You cant do that" when the interviewer said he was looking at deaths in regards to population.


The fact that wasn't an SNL skit is scary.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:03 pm

Jedi Council wrote:
La xinga wrote:Refusal to actually lead?

He couldn't lead his way out of a paper bag


Trump singing follow the leader would be maximum irony.
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Postby Jedi Council » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:04 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Jedi Council wrote:That Axios interview should be required watching in stats classes.

The Axios interview is a prime example of how utterly wrong that man is in the head. I mean seriously, he is a genuine fucking idiot and a malicious one at that who poses genuine risk to the people of the United States.

See if he wins the election this year, no offence but there is something seriously wrong with America.

There are alot of things seriously wrong with America, Trump is a symptom of serious dysfunction in numerous areas, from education, to their electoral system.
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