2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

[Cordel One]

I shouldn't be surprised however, that you're one of those "cAsTrO sToLe ThE fAmIlY sUgAr PlAnTaTiOn AnD aLl OuR 'sErVaNtS'" folks. I've found that a rather disconcerting number of Anti-Castro Cubans are capitalists salty about being expropriated.

I think you would be too, if your nation's government seized your home and businesses, while the governing elite live like rich socialist capitalists, like this:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1235120

You're extremely privileged, and that puts you above most of us in America. The way you write this seems incredibly entitled too, you're no more deserving of a good life than anyone else.

[Nuroblav]

I am saying socialist communism as practiced all over the world, I am aware the socialists say true socialism has not been tried, which I strongly think does not work, because it goes against human nature, call it and human nature whatever you will. True Socialists like yourself and others should not support Fidel, Raúl Castro and the Cuban regime, which live like rich upper class socialist capitalists, but you do:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1235120

Pretty sure Heloin and I...don't support them? I don't look like someone who would, neither does Helion?

I'll leave the 'human nature' part for now - I fear we are getting off topic.

[Thermodolia]

We're talking about banning Nazis and Q Anon types, science-deniers, anti-vaxxers.

Not Republicans. You may not like them, but here we are.

Also your hypothetical is irrelevant. If I were in a position to ban people from office, I'd ban Republicans and Democrats.

I'm not advocating for the playing out of my wildest fantasy, I'm advocating for reasonably unfit persons - per other first world countries - to be withheld from office.

Why have no Boards of elections or Secretaries of State done what you want of no state passed such a law?

Did you just have a stroke? Because I definitely had one attempting to read that.

Most likely because it would be held as unconstitutional in a court challenge.
It’s similar in a way to laws banning atheists from holding public office. You cannot have a religious test for office

Well I guess we are just fucked as a nation

[San Lumen]

Why have no Boards of elections or Secretaries of State done what you want of no state passed such a law?

Did you just have a stroke? Because I definitely had one attempting to read that.

Most likely because it would be held as unconstitutional in a court challenge.
It’s similar in a way to laws banning atheists from holding public office. You cannot have a religious test for office

Well I guess we are just fucked as a nation

What I meant was Why have no Boards of elections or Secretaries of State done what you want and no state passed such a law?

Everyone has a right to run for office regardless of viewpoints

[Thermodolia]

Did you just have a stroke? Because I definitely had one attempting to read that.

Well I guess we are just fucked as a nation

What I meant was Why have no Boards of elections or Secretaries of State done what you want and no state passed such a law?

That makes absolutely no sense. Banning Nazis from running for office doesn’t negate the need for a BoE or a Sec of State.

Everyone has a right to run for office regardless of viewpoints

No they do not and should not. We don’t let children, violent criminals, or mentally ill people to run for office. What’s a few more restrictions? Besides if you really want me to do it I’ll just say that being an anti-vaxxer, nazi, Q Anon, and a Science denier Makes you mentally incapable of holding office and therefore they can’t run.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Yes. Trump has been anti-Vaxx since before 2016

Disappointing. It's a shame Lumen supports a country where Donald Trump is allowed to be President.

I have a different take on it, it is awesome San Lumen supports a nation where Republican President Donald J Trump is allowed to be President.

[Cordel One]

Disappointing. It's a shame Lumen supports a country where Donald Trump is allowed to be President.

I have a different take on it, it is awesome San Lumen supports a nation where Republican President Donald J Trump is allowed to be President.

You are a Proud Republican Cultist™ after all.

[Kannap]

We're talking about banning Nazis and Q Anon types, science-deniers, anti-vaxxers.

Not Republicans. You may not like them, but here we are.

Also your hypothetical is irrelevant. If I were in a position to ban people from office, I'd ban Republicans and Democrats.

I'm not advocating for the playing out of my wildest fantasy, I'm advocating for reasonably unfit persons - per other first world countries - to be withheld from office.

Why have no Boards of elections or Secretaries of State done what you want of no state passed such a law?

They should

Most likely because it would be held as unconstitutional in a court challenge.

It shouldn't be

[Greater Miami Shores]

I have a different take on it, it is awesome San Lumen supports a nation where Republican President Donald J Trump is allowed to be President.

You are a Proud Republican Cultist™ after all.

As are Democrats Proud Democrat Cultists. If I am they are too, it does work both ways.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I have a different take on it, it is awesome San Lumen supports a nation where Republican President Donald J Trump is allowed to be President.

You are a Proud Republican Cultist™ after all.

No see he is not a Proud Republican Cultist supporter of President Donald J Trump, only the leftist democrats and joe biden call him that. But he is a Proud Republican Cultist supporter of President Donald J Trump because Donald J Trump is Making America Great Again. But its the leftist democrats that call him a cultist, he is not a cultist he only supportive of republican facts and opinions as democrats are supportive of their facts and opinions.

[Jedi Council]

You are a Proud Republican Cultist™ after all.

No see he is not a Proud Republican Cultist supporter of President Donald J Trump, only the leftist democrats and joe biden call him that. But he is a Proud Republican Cultist supporter of President Donald J Trump because Donald J Trump is Making America Great Again. But its the leftist democrats that call him a cultist, he is not a cultist he only supportive of republican facts and opinions as democrats are supportive of their facts and opinions.

GMS, stop hacking Huskar's account. It's not cool.

[Cordel One]

You are a Proud Republican Cultist™ after all.

As are Democrats Proud Democrat Cultists. If I am they are too, it does work both ways.

I mean sure, but party loyalty is still cringe.

[Thermodolia]

As are Democrats Proud Democrat Cultists. If I am they are too, it does work both ways.

I mean sure, but party loyalty is still cringe.

All me and my homies hate parties

[Greater Miami Shores]

You are a Proud Republican Cultist™ after all.

No see he is not a Proud Republican Cultist supporter of President Donald J Trump, only the leftist democrats and joe biden call him that. But he is a Proud Republican Cultist supporter of President Donald J Trump because Donald J Trump is Making America Great Again. But its the leftist democrats that call him a cultist, he is not a cultist he only supportive of republican facts and opinions as democrats are supportive of their facts and opinions.

Thank you Huskar Social Union, : Bravo, Awesome.

Greater Miami Shores - Crazy Cuban Alberto.

[Nuroblav]

No see he is not a Proud Republican Cultist supporter of President Donald J Trump, only the leftist democrats and joe biden call him that. But he is a Proud Republican Cultist supporter of President Donald J Trump because Donald J Trump is Making America Great Again. But its the leftist democrats that call him a cultist, he is not a cultist he only supportive of republican facts and opinions as democrats are supportive of their facts and opinions.

Ah yes, the radical leftist democrats. Let us not forget that anything to the left of Rand is an evil collectivist nutcase that is after our money.

All me and my homies hate parties

Based beyond comprehension

[Kannap]

Did you just have a stroke? Because I definitely had one attempting to read that.

Well I guess we are just fucked as a nation

What I meant was Why have no Boards of elections or Secretaries of State done what you want and no state passed such a law?

Everyone has a right to run for office regardless of viewpoints

Not everybody, under American law.

I'm simply proposing that law be expanded to weed out more bad apples.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Disappointing. It's a shame Lumen supports a country where Donald Trump is allowed to be President.

I have a different take on it, it is awesome San Lumen supports a nation where Republican President Donald J Trump is allowed to be President.

Yes, a nation so great it elected a guy whose mismanagement killed 176,000.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

No see he is not a Proud Republican Cultist supporter of President Donald J Trump, only the leftist democrats and joe biden call him that. But he is a Proud Republican Cultist supporter of President Donald J Trump because Donald J Trump is Making America Great Again. But its the leftist democrats that call him a cultist, he is not a cultist he only supportive of republican facts and opinions as democrats are supportive of their facts and opinions.

Thank you Huskar Social Union, : Bravo, Awesome.

Greater Miami Shores - Crazy Cuban Alberto.

Have to be crazy to still see any promise for a brighter future in Donald Trump.

[Post War America]

I'm pretty sure GMS is trying to say Communism in the utopian sense but doesn't realise there's a world of difference between socialists and communists.

I am saying socialist communism as practiced all over the world, I am aware the socialists say true socialism has not been tried, which I strongly think does not work, because it goes against human nature, call it and human nature whatever you will. True Socialists like yourself and others should not support Fidel, Raúl Castro and the Cuban regime, which live like rich upper class socialist capitalists, but you do:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1235120

The hUmAn NaTuRe argument dies here.

Linked are studies demonstrating that falsity of human nature being centered around greed and competition, with psychological surveys demonstrating that altruistic behavior makes people want to be more altruistic, and that young children, who have not fully been socialized are naturally inclined towards altruism. Archaeological evidence that suggests that disabled people, who would have been a net negative to their groups were cared for in spite of the competitive disadvantage that would cause. As well as two demonstrations of some of the most significant medical advancements in history being made without promise of reward but because they were intended to cure social ills.

[San Lumen]

Why have no Boards of elections or Secretaries of State done what you want of no state passed such a law?

They should

Most likely because it would be held as unconstitutional in a court challenge.

It shouldn't be

Why hasn’t such a law been passed? My opinion is it would likely violate the first amendment

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I'm pretty sure GMS is trying to say Communism in the utopian sense but doesn't realise there's a world of difference between socialists and communists.

I am saying socialist communism as practiced all over the world, I am aware the socialists say true socialism has not been tried, which I strongly think does not work, because it goes against human nature, call it and human nature whatever you will. True Socialists like yourself and others should not support Fidel, Raúl Castro and the Cuban regime, which live like rich upper class socialist capitalists, but you do:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1235120

Ah yes, the good old human nature trope?

[Jerzylvania]

I am saying socialist communism as practiced all over the world, I am aware the socialists say true socialism has not been tried, which I strongly think does not work, because it goes against human nature, call it and human nature whatever you will. True Socialists like yourself and others should not support Fidel, Raúl Castro and the Cuban regime, which live like rich upper class socialist capitalists, but you do:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1235120

The hUmAn NaTuRe argument dies here.

Linked are studies demonstrating that falsity of human nature being centered around greed and competition, with psychological surveys demonstrating that altruistic behavior makes people want to be more altruistic, and that young children, who have not fully been socialized are naturally inclined towards altruism. Archaeological evidence that suggests that disabled people, who would have been a net negative to their groups were cared for in spite of the competitive disadvantage that would cause. As well as two demonstrations of some of the most significant medical advancements in history being made without promise of reward but because they were intended to cure social ills.

This is true. Children I have taught in Elementary and Middle school are quite altruistic and extremely protective of their fellow students with disabilities and other short comings. This behavior is a beautiful thing to behold.

[Zurkerx]

Majority of Republicans - 57% - think the number of COVID deaths in the United States is acceptable

31% of overall voters said the number of deaths is acceptable.

90% of Democrats and 61% of independents said the number of deaths is unacceptable.

It's actually 67% for Independents. But the honest fuck? In what world is saying 175K+ deaths is "acceptable" due to our handling? Eh, I'm not surprised anymore.

[Cordel One]

I am saying socialist communism as practiced all over the world, I am aware the socialists say true socialism has not been tried, which I strongly think does not work, because it goes against human nature, call it and human nature whatever you will. True Socialists like yourself and others should not support Fidel, Raúl Castro and the Cuban regime, which live like rich upper class socialist capitalists, but you do:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1235120

The hUmAn NaTuRe argument dies here.

Linked are studies demonstrating that falsity of human nature being centered around greed and competition, with psychological surveys demonstrating that altruistic behavior makes people want to be more altruistic, and that young children, who have not fully been socialized are naturally inclined towards altruism. Archaeological evidence that suggests that disabled people, who would have been a net negative to their groups were cared for in spite of the competitive disadvantage that would cause. As well as two demonstrations of some of the most significant medical advancements in history being made without promise of reward but because they were intended to cure social ills.

Do you mind if I put this in my factbook of refutations for overused talking points?

[Kannap]

They should



It shouldn't be

Why hasn’t such a law been passed? My opinion is it would likely violate the first amendment

We already have laws that bar people from holding office.