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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:22 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
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Easy to accomplish for Trump as his mouth is the biological equivalent of a continuously overflowing toilet.

And you are not biased?


and your not? You refuse to listen to any criticism and would prefer to only watch echo chambers that substantiate the reality you chose to believe.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:24 am

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:And you are not biased?


Remember, any criticism of Trump is proof of bias.

No, this is not what I have ever said. But you all accuse me of biased, a cultist, a Republican cultist, a Trump cultist and worse, for my support of Trump and the Republicans, but you all never call yourself s biased, Democrat cultists and Biden cultists for your support of the Democrats and Biden. You all never have anything positive to say about Trump and the Republicans, I think you all think Trump cant do no right, none of you will ever vote for Trump no matter what, the same charges against me in reverse.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:25 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Remember, any criticism of Trump is proof of bias.

No, this is not what I have ever said. But you all accuse me of biased, a cultist, a Republican cultist, a Trump cultist and worse, for my support of Trump and the Republicans, but you all never call yourself s Democrat cultists and Biden cultists for your support of the Democrats and Biden. You all never have anything positive to say about Trump and the Republicans, I think you all think Trump cant do no right, none of you will ever vote for Trump no matter what, the same charges against me in reverse.


My guy you literally call yourself a cultist. You can't bitch and moan about other people applying the label to you.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:25 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Remember, any criticism of Trump is proof of bias.

No, this is not what I have ever said. But you all accuse me of biased, a cultist, a Republican cultist, a Trump cultist and worse, for my support of Trump and the Republicans, but you all never call yourself s Democrat cultists and Biden cultists for your support of the Democrats and Biden. You all never have anything positive to say about Trump and the Republicans, I think you all think Trump cant do no right, none of you will ever vote for Trump no matter what, the same charges against me in reverse.


Do you have anything to say other than canned answers? Are you incapable of answering a direct question?

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:28 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:No, this is not what I have ever said. But you all accuse me of biased, a cultist, a Republican cultist, a Trump cultist and worse, for my support of Trump and the Republicans, but you all never call yourself s Democrat cultists and Biden cultists for your support of the Democrats and Biden. You all never have anything positive to say about Trump and the Republicans, I think you all think Trump cant do no right, none of you will ever vote for Trump no matter what, the same charges against me in reverse.


My guy you literally call yourself a cultist. You can't bitch and moan about other people applying the label to you.

lol, I have explained this a millionth times, I created the sig only after you guys called me a cultist, a Republican cultist and a Trump cultist, and I conditioned it on According to my Political views and of those who agree with me, lol, again.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:29 am

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:No, this is not what I have ever said. But you all accuse me of biased, a cultist, a Republican cultist, a Trump cultist and worse, for my support of Trump and the Republicans, but you all never call yourself s Democrat cultists and Biden cultists for your support of the Democrats and Biden. You all never have anything positive to say about Trump and the Republicans, I think you all think Trump cant do no right, none of you will ever vote for Trump no matter what, the same charges against me in reverse.


Do you have anything to say other than canned answers? Are you incapable of answering a direct question?

That happens to be a very direct post of mine full of Facts, you don't like.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:32 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
My guy you literally call yourself a cultist. You can't bitch and moan about other people applying the label to you.

lol, I have explained this a millionth times, I created the sig only after you guys called me a cultist, a Republican cultist and a Trump cultist, and I conditioned it on According to my Political views and of those who agree with me, lol, again.

You are cultist when you refuse to listen to viewpoints other than your own, blindly support someone in office without any criticism, and claim to speak for everyone of a certain group.


Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Do you have anything to say other than canned answers? Are you incapable of answering a direct question?

That happens to be a very direct post of mine full of Facts, you don't like.


You don't understand the difference between facts and opinion.

Ill give you an example so perhaps you can understand. Tallahassee is the capital of Florida is a fact. An opinion would be the city is crime ridden and has high poverty because its run by Democrats.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:32 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
My guy you literally call yourself a cultist. You can't bitch and moan about other people applying the label to you.

lol, I have explained this a millionth times, I created the sig only after you guys called me a cultist, a Republican cultist and a Trump cultist, and I conditioned it on According to my Political views and of those who agree with me, lol, again.


Did you ever stop and critically think about why you got that label, instead of just having a "lol attack"?
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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:34 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:lol, I have explained this a millionth times, I created the sig only after you guys called me a cultist, a Republican cultist and a Trump cultist, and I conditioned it on According to my Political views and of those who agree with me, lol, again.


Did you ever stop and critically think about why you got that label, instead of just having a "lol attack"?


WRA, Lumen, who the hell cares? You're not going to have a breakthrough here.

I'm curious to hear what everyone thinks about what affect, if any, the Woodward interview will have on Trump's re-election chances? Will it do nothing whatsoever to his numbers, or might this have him take a small hit he really doesn't need?

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Postby Organized States » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:35 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
My guy you literally call yourself a cultist. You can't bitch and moan about other people applying the label to you.


This unfortunately doesn't go anywhere and in the words of Jefferson, "I couldn't undo it even if I tried. And I tried."

He's fine with calling himself a cultist.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:35 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Did you ever stop and critically think about why you got that label, instead of just having a "lol attack"?


WRA, Lumen, who the hell cares? You're not going to have a breakthrough here.

I'm curious to hear what everyone thinks about what affect, if any, the Woodward interview will have on Trump's re-election chances? Will it do nothing whatsoever to his numbers, or might this have him take a small hit he really doesn't need?

Among the Republican base it will likely not have much effect but it could cause higher turnout among democrats and cause independents to sour on him even more.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:36 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Did you ever stop and critically think about why you got that label, instead of just having a "lol attack"?


WRA, Lumen, who the hell cares? You're not going to have a breakthrough here.

I'm curious to hear what everyone thinks about what affect, if any, the Woodward interview will have on Trump's re-election chances? Will it do nothing whatsoever to his numbers, or might this have him take a small hit he really doesn't need?


I doubt it'll do anything tbh. People have had their minds made up for years now on Trump. Everyone is far too partisan to actually change.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:38 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
WRA, Lumen, who the hell cares? You're not going to have a breakthrough here.

I'm curious to hear what everyone thinks about what affect, if any, the Woodward interview will have on Trump's re-election chances? Will it do nothing whatsoever to his numbers, or might this have him take a small hit he really doesn't need?


I doubt it'll do anything tbh. People have had their minds made up for years now on Trump. Everyone is far too partisan to actually change.

Even the undecideds are much smaller this time around...
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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:38 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
WRA, Lumen, who the hell cares? You're not going to have a breakthrough here.

I'm curious to hear what everyone thinks about what affect, if any, the Woodward interview will have on Trump's re-election chances? Will it do nothing whatsoever to his numbers, or might this have him take a small hit he really doesn't need?


I doubt it'll do anything tbh. People have had their minds made up for years now on Trump. Everyone is far too partisan to actually change.


I just really want to know what the breaking point is for the Trump base. If the guy outright saying "I lied about the severity of a virus that killed 200,000 Americans isn't enough," I'm inclined to agree that there is no breaking point anymore.

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Major-Tom wrote:
WRA, Lumen, who the hell cares? You're not going to have a breakthrough here.

I'm curious to hear what everyone thinks about what affect, if any, the Woodward interview will have on Trump's re-election chances? Will it do nothing whatsoever to his numbers, or might this have him take a small hit he really doesn't need?

Among the Republican base it will likely not have much effect but it could cause higher turnout among democrats and cause independents to sour on him even more.


That's my thought process, at the very least, it'll continue to drive down apathy among people we need in our coalition.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:39 am

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:lol, I have explained this a millionth times, I created the sig only after you guys called me a cultist, a Republican cultist and a Trump cultist, and I conditioned it on According to my Political views and of those who agree with me, lol, again.


Did you ever stop and critically think about why you got that label, instead of just having a "lol attack"?

lol, I got it every time I support President Trump and the Republicans, from the leftists anti Trump Persons on NS, I am always wrong and they are always right, according to them, I would not expect anything less from them than negative posts on Trump, the Republicans and myself. I don't really care, but I point it out.

What you all don't understand all the personal and political insults at me, only honors me more, and increases my wish to see President Trump reelected as he deserves to be reelected, according to my Political views and of those who agree with me. So keep posting the personal and political insults, they only strengthen me, lol again.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:42 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:And you are not biased?


Remember, any criticism of Trump is proof of bias.

I gave up on getting through to him months ago. His posts are too ridiculous.

Today it seems he's desperate to get a shot in somewhere. Everyone else is demolishing his comments as he pretends to not know about the Woodward book and tapes. :lol:
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:42 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I doubt it'll do anything tbh. People have had their minds made up for years now on Trump. Everyone is far too partisan to actually change.


I just really want to know what the breaking point is for the Trump base. If the guy outright saying "I lied about the severity of a virus that killed 200,000 Americans isn't enough," I'm inclined to agree that there is no breaking point anymore.

San Lumen wrote:Among the Republican base it will likely not have much effect but it could cause higher turnout among democrats and cause independents to sour on him even more.


That's my thought process, at the very least, it'll continue to drive down apathy among people we need in our coalition.

There isn’t a breaking point.

I don’t think it will increase apathy.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:54 am

I am not a Democrat, I am a Republican, I think like a Republican, you guys are Democrats or Democrats supporters and you think like Democrats and Democrat supporters, we think differently than you guys, most of us.

To S L, I am not being arrogant as you keep claiming, this is a Fact, you don't like.
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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:55 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Did you ever stop and critically think about why you got that label, instead of just having a "lol attack"?


WRA, Lumen, who the hell cares? You're not going to have a breakthrough here.

I'm curious to hear what everyone thinks about what affect, if any, the Woodward interview will have on Trump's re-election chances? Will it do nothing whatsoever to his numbers, or might this have him take a small hit he really doesn't need?


It won't move the needle much in terms of support given we've seen some Trump Supporters flat-out call COVID-19 "a hoax", but I do see two things happening:

1. The support currently being maintained by both candidates will solidify and

2. Undecided/third party voters will have a tougher time supporting Trump, especially after admitting he knew the dangers of COVID-19 but downplayed it anyway.

Undecided/third party voters are smaller group this year. As WRA has mentioned, people have made up their minds regarding Trump, which isn't good for him given he needs as much support as he can get. This also doesn't help Biden either but I think we can expect those that were somewhat committed to Biden will fully back him now. It doesn't help Trump either that he has a -12 to a -15 net favorability rating while Biden's is somewhere between -2 to +5. Trump doesn't have the benefit of going against Clinton this time, and that has made some Democrats, who sat out, more eager to support Biden as the nominee.
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Postby Kexholm and Karelia » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:56 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:I am not a Democrat, I am a Republican, I think like a Republican, you guys are Democrats or Democrats supporters and you think like Democrats and Democrat supporters, we think differently than you guys, most of us.

To S L, I am not being arrogant as you keep claiming, this is a Fact, you don't like.

Why do you call yourself a cultist though?
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:57 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:I am not a Democrat, I am a Republican, I think like a Republican, you guys are Democrats or Democrats supporters and you think like Democrats and Democrat supporters, we think differently than you guys, most of us.

To S L, I am not being arrogant as you keep claiming, this is a Fact, you don't like.

Republicans are therefore a hive mind and never dissent at all?

You are being arrogant and do not understand the difference between fact and opinion. I gave you an example of the difference between the two.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:58 am

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I am not a Democrat, I am a Republican, I think like a Republican, you guys are Democrats or Democrats supporters and you think like Democrats and Democrat supporters, we think differently than you guys, most of us.

To S L, I am not being arrogant as you keep claiming, this is a Fact, you don't like.

Why do you call yourself a cultist though?

Dude I explained this to you on a previous post, perhaps you did not see it, ill send you a link later on a friendly TG as I call them, I need to leave soon for hours.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:01 am

https://www.opinium.com/resource-center ... ver-trump/

New national poll has Biden leading by nine.

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Postby Liriena » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:04 am

San Lumen wrote:https://www.opinium.com/resource-center/bidens-bounce-fades-but-retains-lead-over-trump/

New national poll has Biden leading by nine.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:08 am

Oh shit, Biden's at the same Flight 93 memorial.

Trump was there and managed to not embarrass himself, didn't turn it into a campaign speech or self aggrandizing. He focused the victims and the event. So soon it will be Biden's turn, he's gotta keep it classy. If he speaks. The graphic just says he's there.
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