2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

[Borderlands of Rojava]

If gms isn’t balanced then how come he has both a left and right leg

Whoever said he does?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Trump admitted on tape that he lied to you and every other one of his cultists when he claimed the virus that kills people was not an issue.

He said, he did not want too alarm people, so he said reassuring things, it just shows us President Trump loves America the USA and the American people, it just shows he has a loving heart, and loves you too Liriena my friend.

And now 190,000 people are dead. Thats not a man who loves America. Thats at best a cowardly cocksucker. And I doubt he was worried about a panic on mainstreet. He was probably worried about "muh economy," so he lied and covered things up and now over 190,000 Americans have fallen victim to the "evil virus," aided by an evil president.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Green Party Presidential Candidate Says Progressives Are Going Too Easy on Biden

Hmmm? Being practical is not really surrendering. It’s going to be Biden or Trump. Of the two; who is going to address covid and the environment? If that is what they like; trump is the greater threat.

Idk about covid but I expect biden to do precisely next to nothing to solve climate change. He has to keep his wealthy donors on his side, the ones who pollute the world every day.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

While trying to create panics about Mexicans. And China. And Muslims. And Antifa. And BLM. And probably some things I've forgotten.

So no, I don't buy the "he didn't want to alarm people" narrative.

He wasn’t lying; he was just speaking calmly.

He was being an optimist lmfao

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Trump yalan söylemiyor; o iyi bir politikacı ama kırpılmış bir üst ve şort giymesi gerekiyor!

Fuck Trump, fuck Erdogan. The world needs less of that type of man.

[Aureumterra]

Trump supporters have been demonized as all being racists, but in reality, barely anyone is racist. I have been to many Trump rallies, no one cared that I was Chinese, in fact, people praised me for resisting the CCP, and wished me luck on "liberating my ancestral land."

When I pass through rural America while going places, people are very friendly and are more curious than anything, when I tell them I’m a Trump supporter, they go as far as inviting me over for dinner. The only experience with racism I have had in the US has been in urban Philadelphia, where two black men called me a "Fucking chinky pig," while I was crossing the street and their car had to stop.
(and before you leftists jump on the opportunity to paint me as a black-hating racist, I know these people are not representative of the vast majority of black people)

Portraying all or even most Trump supporters as racist is another one of the left’s most effective tactic, lying.

I disagree that all Trump supporters are racist, but I'm gonna have to say you're full of it at several of your quotes, from "liberating my ancestral land" to "Fucking chinky pig." I'm sorry mate, but all of that sounds completely made up.

Why? Do you have a view that all Trump supporters are unsophisticated rednecks or something?

[Insaanistan]

I disagree that all Trump supporters are racist, but I'm gonna have to say you're full of it at several of your quotes, from "liberating my ancestral land" to "Fucking chinky pig." I'm sorry mate, but all of that sounds completely made up.

Why? Do you have a view that all Trump supporters are unsophisticated rednecks or something?

Not all. Not even most. But quite a lot. And even more are just ignorant imbeciles in general. But again, not all of them.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

I disagree that all Trump supporters are racist, but I'm gonna have to say you're full of it at several of your quotes, from "liberating my ancestral land" to "Fucking chinky pig." I'm sorry mate, but all of that sounds completely made up.

Why? Do you have a view that all Trump supporters are unsophisticated rednecks or something?

Trump supporters have been demonized as all being racists, but in reality, barely anyone is racist. I have been to many Trump rallies, no one cared that I was Chinese, in fact, people praised me for resisting the CCP, and wished me luck on "liberating my ancestral land."

You don't find it interesting that a foreign country's government and K&K's support or otherwise might come up while at a rally?

I'm guessing other Trump supporters wouldn't have been so friendly if "I'm from China" was followed by "Of course I support the Chinese government, they're doing a good job" ...

It's pretty much the same as how Cubans learn to fit in anywhere by just saying how much they hate Communism and Castro.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I disagree that all Trump supporters are racist, but I'm gonna have to say you're full of it at several of your quotes, from "liberating my ancestral land" to "Fucking chinky pig." I'm sorry mate, but all of that sounds completely made up.

Why? Do you have a view that all Trump supporters are unsophisticated rednecks or something?

https://youtu.be/Y4Zdx97A63s

[Aureumterra]

Why? Do you have a view that all Trump supporters are unsophisticated rednecks or something?

https://youtu.be/Y4Zdx97A63s

https://youtu.be/ALr2jS6cg2E

Neither of these videos proves anything except that some people on both sides are dumb. My point still stands

[Borderlands of Rojava]

https://youtu.be/Y4Zdx97A63s

https://youtu.be/ALr2jS6cg2E

Neither of these videos proves anything except that some people on both sides are dumb. My point still stands

Nah, those were just the appetizers. I got an actual study too.

A geographical study found support for Trump in the Republican primaries was correlated positively with the following factors (in order of statistical strength): (1) proportion of white lacking a high school diploma; (2) ethnicity reported as "American" on the census; (3) living in a mobile home; (4) jobs largely in agriculture, construction, manufacturing or trade; (5) having a history of voting for segregationists such as George Wallace in 1968; (6) residents born in the United States and being an evangelical Christian.

I dont just have a quote from the wikipedia article on the donald trump election. I also got the link to the actual study itself, which proves that being a redneck and supporting trump comes as naturally as being a black man in the nation of Islam.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/upsh ... mpism.html

[Ifreann]

So apparently Trump also to Woodward that he protected the Saudi Crown Prince after the khashoggi murder.

Seriously what went through his head to agree to talk to Woodward on tape for 18 minutes?!

I assume Trump's inner monologue is basically the same as how he talks when he's off-script, so probably "I'm gonna give the best interview. So great. Many people have said I'm the best at interviews. The best people."

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To all of you, my real Republican God Emperor President and Dear Leader is Republican President Ronald Reagan, at least get it right from now on, he is on my sig.

GMS.

Surprisingly, Reagan was a cunt for almost the exact same reasons as Trump... starting with how he handled his own pandemic.

Ronald Wilson Reagan
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[San Lumen]

How else are any of the changes you want going to happen? Screaming into a void or waving a magic wand won’t make it so.

And you assume literally anyone can do it without money or the fact people have a family that needs to come first or don't have the time or energy or the charisma to actually be a fucking politician, like it's that fucking easy to campaign for a primary and a general and win it fucking isn't.

Anyone can run for office if you meet certain requirements. Plenty of people have a family and manage to run for office.

[San Lumen]

Green Party Presidential Candidate Says Progressives Are Going Too Easy on Biden

The Green Party's presidential nominee, Howie Hawkins, is calling on progressive voters not to "settle" for Democratic rival Joe Biden's platform just to see President Donald Trump defeated in the upcoming 2020 election.

Speaking with Newsweek on Thursday, Hawkins said that while Biden might be the most likely candidate on the left to defeat Trump, that does not mean that progressives should become complacent when it comes to demanding action on issues like combating climate change and addressing racial injustice.

"Trump, I want him out of there more than anybody, but if you just settle for Biden, you're not going to get any of the things you wanted as a progressive," Hawkins said.

"Unfortunately," he continued, "I think progressives are settling for Biden, a lot of them are, and they're undermining their own case. They have made no demands on him."

After Biden's campaign introduced a series of policy recommendations crafted by its joint task force with supporters of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who ended his presidential bid in April, before the Democratic National Committee, some progressives were disappointed to see much of the major upheaval promised in Sanders' campaign left out.

Among the key items left out was the ambitious Green New Deal package aimed at addressing climate change and economic inequality.

Still, supporters of the deal have embraced much of Biden's plan as maintaining key aspects of the package. Meanwhile, his plan has been progressive enough for Trump to declare it "extreme" after the Democrat revealed his plans to spend $2 trillion over two years to promote the use of clean energy across sectors in a bid to create economic opportunities and tackle climate change.

Speaking in July from the Rose Garden, the president said he believed Biden's agenda was "the most extreme platform of any major party nominee, by far, in American history."

"I think it's worse than actually Bernie's platform," the president said, referring to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

For Hawkins, however, Biden's plans to tackle climate change do not go far enough.

"Trump says that climate change is a hoax, but Biden acts like climate change is a hoax," Hawkins said. "I wonder if he really understands the issue," he mused.

The Green Party candidate said he was further disappointed by Biden's refusal to back Medicare for All, the universal health care legislation promoted by Sanders.

"Medicare for All... A green new deal... Taxing the rich to fund social programs...Biden is for none of these," he said.

If progressives readily accept that, he said, "they are setting themselves up to have no leverage with Biden if he becomes president."

Speaking on his own campaign, Hawkins said that he was frustrated by the notion that would-be Green Party supporters might cast their ballots for Biden over fears of splitting up the vote in the 2020 election.

Some Democrats have long accused Hawkins' predecessor Jill Stein of playing a part in former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's 2016 election loss.

If voters in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania had voted for Clinton instead of Stein, the Democratic candidate might have gone on to be president.

However, as Hawkins noted, there is little evidence to suggest that Stein's dropping out of the race would have secured the former secretary of state's victory.

The Green Party candidate said he believes fears over splitting up the vote are to blame for why his campaign has not attracted as much attention from the media or voters in the lead-up to the election.

"We've been pretty much blanked out of the media," he said. "We're not part of the conversation."

"I'm comparing Jill Stein's coverage to my coverage and it's just not comparable," Hawkins said. "I've got nothing, pretty much nothing, certainly from cable, the big three cable networks. If you're not covering people, they don't know you're out there. It's a chicken and egg thing."

He also took aim at the suggestion that voting for the Green Party might equate to helping Trump, asserting: "People need to understand that a vote for the Greens is a vote against Trump. There's a misunderstanding on that...It's not in Trump's column, it's in the Green column."

Hawkins further said that he was disappointed to media focus around combating climate change quiet down in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic.

"COVID is important, but so is the climate," Hawkins said. "The media seems to be able to only focus on one or two things at a time."

Still, he said he believes protecting the environment is still important to voters.

"In the general public mind, it's in the back of their minds. It's a big worry that's really changed in this country," he said. "I think that's sentiment is still there."

Newsweek has contacted Biden's campaign for comment.

I’ll explain this to you using the best example I can. In the final season of the west wing the democratic candidate for president was pro life and the Republican candidate was pro gun control. Both of them had to speak before group antithetical to what they believed. Both got told “would you rather say how you really feel and lose the election or tell them something else and do what you want after you get elected?”

[Zurkerx]

Trump And Biden Both Got Small Convention Bounces. But Only Biden Got More Popular.

This has been reflected in several polls over the last couple of weeks: Biden is currently viewed positively; his average is 48% to 46% with an unfavorable view. Trump's numbers didn't improve or get worst: 41% view him favorably to 55% that don't. In essence, Biden comes out being looked at more favorably although it seems their respective Conventions are solidifying their support, which isn't good for Trump per se given he needs those voters that lean towards Biden to stay home.

But another factor to likely solidify their support is the debates, though Biden believes he know how to handle Trump, categorizing him as a "bully". The bigger problem for Trump this go around, however, is the lack of undecided/third party voters: those numbers are between 5-9%, half of what it was in 2016.

[San Lumen]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/feminism-p ... originals/

A record number of women are running for Congress. I’ve heard similar reports about state legislatures this year as well.

[Post War America]

Green Party Presidential Candidate Says Progressives Are Going Too Easy on Biden

The Green Party's presidential nominee, Howie Hawkins, is calling on progressive voters not to "settle" for Democratic rival Joe Biden's platform just to see President Donald Trump defeated in the upcoming 2020 election.

Speaking with Newsweek on Thursday, Hawkins said that while Biden might be the most likely candidate on the left to defeat Trump, that does not mean that progressives should become complacent when it comes to demanding action on issues like combating climate change and addressing racial injustice.

"Trump, I want him out of there more than anybody, but if you just settle for Biden, you're not going to get any of the things you wanted as a progressive," Hawkins said.

"Unfortunately," he continued, "I think progressives are settling for Biden, a lot of them are, and they're undermining their own case. They have made no demands on him."

After Biden's campaign introduced a series of policy recommendations crafted by its joint task force with supporters of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who ended his presidential bid in April, before the Democratic National Committee, some progressives were disappointed to see much of the major upheaval promised in Sanders' campaign left out.

Among the key items left out was the ambitious Green New Deal package aimed at addressing climate change and economic inequality.

Still, supporters of the deal have embraced much of Biden's plan as maintaining key aspects of the package. Meanwhile, his plan has been progressive enough for Trump to declare it "extreme" after the Democrat revealed his plans to spend $2 trillion over two years to promote the use of clean energy across sectors in a bid to create economic opportunities and tackle climate change.

Speaking in July from the Rose Garden, the president said he believed Biden's agenda was "the most extreme platform of any major party nominee, by far, in American history."

"I think it's worse than actually Bernie's platform," the president said, referring to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

For Hawkins, however, Biden's plans to tackle climate change do not go far enough.

"Trump says that climate change is a hoax, but Biden acts like climate change is a hoax," Hawkins said. "I wonder if he really understands the issue," he mused.

The Green Party candidate said he was further disappointed by Biden's refusal to back Medicare for All, the universal health care legislation promoted by Sanders.

"Medicare for All... A green new deal... Taxing the rich to fund social programs...Biden is for none of these," he said.

If progressives readily accept that, he said, "they are setting themselves up to have no leverage with Biden if he becomes president."

Speaking on his own campaign, Hawkins said that he was frustrated by the notion that would-be Green Party supporters might cast their ballots for Biden over fears of splitting up the vote in the 2020 election.

Some Democrats have long accused Hawkins' predecessor Jill Stein of playing a part in former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's 2016 election loss.

If voters in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania had voted for Clinton instead of Stein, the Democratic candidate might have gone on to be president.

However, as Hawkins noted, there is little evidence to suggest that Stein's dropping out of the race would have secured the former secretary of state's victory.

The Green Party candidate said he believes fears over splitting up the vote are to blame for why his campaign has not attracted as much attention from the media or voters in the lead-up to the election.

"We've been pretty much blanked out of the media," he said. "We're not part of the conversation."

"I'm comparing Jill Stein's coverage to my coverage and it's just not comparable," Hawkins said. "I've got nothing, pretty much nothing, certainly from cable, the big three cable networks. If you're not covering people, they don't know you're out there. It's a chicken and egg thing."

He also took aim at the suggestion that voting for the Green Party might equate to helping Trump, asserting: "People need to understand that a vote for the Greens is a vote against Trump. There's a misunderstanding on that...It's not in Trump's column, it's in the Green column."

Hawkins further said that he was disappointed to media focus around combating climate change quiet down in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic.

"COVID is important, but so is the climate," Hawkins said. "The media seems to be able to only focus on one or two things at a time."

Still, he said he believes protecting the environment is still important to voters.

"In the general public mind, it's in the back of their minds. It's a big worry that's really changed in this country," he said. "I think that's sentiment is still there."

Newsweek has contacted Biden's campaign for comment.

I mean the whole 'pUsH bIdEn LeFt" narrative is a bit optimistic, unfortunately, when 80% of the not far-right of the country thinks literally all our problems are caused by Donald Trump, people are going to focus on that rather than the dogshit candidate opposing him.

[Kexholm and Karelia]

Senate Democrats block GOP relief bill

"The party of the people"

[San Lumen]

Senate Democrats block GOP relief bill

"The party of the people"

It did nothing to help the average person but keep believing the lies of the right wing news.

[Kexholm and Karelia]

Senate Democrats block GOP relief bill

"The party of the people"

It did nothing to help the average person but keep believing the lies of the right wing news.

The Hill is right wing news now, yes, indeed

[San Lumen]

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/News/navy-to ... al_fb_abcn

Several companies such as Target and Old Navy are paying employees to be poll workers.

[Aureumterra]

Senate Democrats block GOP relief bill

"The party of the people"

It did nothing to help the average person but keep believing the lies of the right wing news.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-hill/

Dude…

[San Lumen]

It did nothing to help the average person but keep believing the lies of the right wing news.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-hill/

Dude…

Perhaps I should have phrased that better. Democrats didn’t want the bill because it did nothing to help the average person.

[Ifreann]

Senate Democrats block GOP relief bill

"The party of the people"

The Democrat controlled House passed a $3.4 trillion bill. The conflict is that the Democrats want to spend much more money than the Republicans are willing to spend.

[Dresderstan]

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-hill/

Dude…

Perhaps I should have phrased that better. Democrats didn’t want the bill because it did nothing to help the average person.

And the Democrats plan was?