2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

[Necroghastia]

No sane nation wants to go to war with a nation that has nukes. Ever since Pakistan and India got nukes they haven’t gone to a major shooting war. North Korea got nukes to keep from being invaded.

South Africa had the same idea, and gave them up because they didn’t want a bunch of non-whites to have control of them.

And then we have someone like Trump who would drop a nuclear bomb on Tehran or Pyongyang because he felt like it. There are terrible weapons that never should have been developed and it’s long past time we set an example and dismantled every single one of ours.

Not to defend the reprehensible bastard, but I doubt he'd nuke Pyongyang considering he seems all to eager to kiss Kim's ass.

[Valrifell]

No city should ever suffer a fate like Hiroshima did.

One can make a quite good argument that the Hiroshima bombing was actually much more humane than the conventional bombing campaign on Japan.

Besides, we were already committing atrocities by firebombing their cities way before Hiroshima.

[Thermodolia]

Hiroshima is doing pretty good all things considered.

And our current nukes are about 20 to 50 times worse than the bomb at Hiroshima

All the better reason to dismantle them all.

The cat is out of the bag Lumen. Nuclear material isn’t hard to create anymore. All you need is partly refined nuclear material and you got a dirty bomb.

If you refine nuclear material used for nuclear power enough you can produce a nuclear weapon. The cat isn’t going back in unless you destroy all nuclear technology.

Don’t get me wrong it’s a nice thought but it will never happen

[Dresderstan]

All the better reason to dismantle them all.

The cat is out of the bag Lumen. Nuclear material isn’t hard to create anymore. All you need is partly refined nuclear material and you got a dirty bomb.

If you refine nuclear material used for nuclear power enough you can produce a nuclear weapon. The cat isn’t going back in unless you destroy all nuclear technology.

Don’t get me wrong it’s a nice thought but it will never happen

And it never should, especially with nuclear power being the future, or SHOULD be the future anyway.

[Thermodolia]

One can make a quite good argument that the Hiroshima bombing was actually much more humane than the conventional bombing campaign on Japan.

Besides, we were already committing atrocities by firebombing their cities way before Hiroshima.

Fun fact that’s why we spared Tokyo and other cities from the nuclear bomb. Because we had firebombed the hell out of them

[Valrifell]

The cat is out of the bag Lumen. Nuclear material isn’t hard to create anymore. All you need is partly refined nuclear material and you got a dirty bomb.

If you refine nuclear material used for nuclear power enough you can produce a nuclear weapon. The cat isn’t going back in unless you destroy all nuclear technology.

Don’t get me wrong it’s a nice thought but it will never happen

And it never should, especially with nuclear power being the future, or SHOULD be the future anyway.

The level of enrichment for bombs and reactors is different, so hypothetically we could have enough international cooperation to make sure nobody is building bombs and only power plants.

[Dresderstan]

And it never should, especially with nuclear power being the future, or SHOULD be the future anyway.

The level of enrichment for bombs and reactors is different, so hypothetically we could have enough international cooperation to make sure nobody is building bombs and only power plants.

Yeah if we lived in a perfect world, but we don't.

[Kowani]

Nuclear weapons in particular can largely be attributed to be the reason why conventional warfare didn't break out between ourselves and the Soviets on numerous occasions. Whilst I maintain that we would have beaten them in such a conflict our ability to vaporize a city with a single undoubtedly put a damper on any March to the Atlantic scenarios.

No city should ever suffer a fate like Hiroshima did.

Better one Hiroshima than constant war.

[Valrifell]

No city should ever suffer a fate like Hiroshima did.

Better one Hiroshima than constant war.

How about two?

Oh... uh... regardless... Nuclear Holocaust 2020!

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

I'm always amazed how people keep forgetting that of dropping the bombs and invading Japans the Brass at the time came to the conclusion that the nukes were the better option. The alternative could quite literally have been nation-shattering.

[Post War America]

Nice fantasy

It’s what should be done. Nuclear weapons should never be used and serve no purpose. Might as well dismantle every single one.

And I'm the one accused of unrealistic solutions jeez.

Look, as great an idea that is in theory, the threat of nuclear annihilation has been one of the most important factors in the lack of great power wars since World War II. Assuming everyone was a good faith actor and agreed to abolish nuclear weapons, that'd just invite major conventional wars as an option again. A unilateral disarmament would only invite nuclear attacks on the United States, as we have no real ability to retaliate in that scenario.

[Dresderstan]

Better one Hiroshima than constant war.

How about two?

Oh... uh... regardless... Nuclear Holocaust 2020!

Fallout 2020 confirmed, coming on October 23rd.

[Post War America]

I'm always amazed how people keep forgetting that of dropping the bombs and invading Japans the Brass at the time came to the conclusion that the nukes were the better option. The alternative could quite literally have been nation-shattering.

I've read the casualty predictions and they were horrifying, and that was assuming that Japanese were surprised by the attacks, which unfortunately for the US was not actually the case. Its kind of telling that we only just ran out of Downfall Purple Hearts in like the mid 90s.

[Thermodolia]

I'm always amazed how people keep forgetting that of dropping the bombs and invading Japans the Brass at the time came to the conclusion that the nukes were the better option. The alternative could quite literally have been nation-shattering.

I've read the casualty predictions and they were horrifying, and that was assuming that Japanese were surprised by the attacks, which unfortunately for the US was not actually the case. Its kind of telling that we only just ran out of Downfall Purple Hearts in like the mid 90s.

And downfall was the army plan. The navy plan just involved blockading Japan and waiting until they all starved to death. That would have killed at least 2 maybe 3 million people.

[Kowani]

I've read the casualty predictions and they were horrifying, and that was assuming that Japanese were surprised by the attacks, which unfortunately for the US was not actually the case. Its kind of telling that we only just ran out of Downfall Purple Hearts in like the mid 90s.

And downfall was the army plan. The navy plan just involved blockading Japan and waiting until they all starved to death. That would have killed at least 2 maybe 3 million people.

McWar Crimes.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Said institutions are meaningless. China has the west by the balls and isn't bound by our laws. Trying to beat them within a system they openly don't follow or care for is foolish at best.

We could always just nuke the chinese

Genocide is bad, m’kay?

[Fartsniffage]

We could always just nuke the chinese

Genocide is bad, m’kay?

How about just nuking the Chinese government?

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Genocide is bad, m’kay?

How about just nuking the Chinese government?

Maybe if you can sneak some micro warheads into their back pockets so they can blow it out their asses without mercing a whole metric fuck ton of civilians then sure, I guess.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

And then we have someone like Trump who would drop a nuclear bomb on Tehran or Pyongyang because he felt like it. There are terrible weapons that never should have been developed and it’s long past time we set an example and dismantled every single one of ours.

Not to defend the reprehensible bastard, but I doubt he'd nuke Pyongyang considering he seems all to eager to kiss Kim's ass.

He wants to do more than that. I wont go into detail.

[Aureumterra]

And then we have someone like Trump who would drop a nuclear bomb on Tehran or Pyongyang because he felt like it. There are terrible weapons that never should have been developed and it’s long past time we set an example and dismantled every single one of ours.

Not to defend the reprehensible bastard, but I doubt he'd nuke Pyongyang considering he seems all to eager to kiss Kim's ass.

Uh… no?

[Vassenor]

Not to defend the reprehensible bastard, but I doubt he'd nuke Pyongyang considering he seems all to eager to kiss Kim's ass.

Uh… no?

-looks at just how flowery the correspondence between them is-

Uh... yes.

[Aureumterra]

Uh… no?

-looks at just how flowery the correspondence between them is-

Uh... yes.

You have convinced me with this very post that Trump is in love with Kim Jong Un

[Kannap]

-looks at just how flowery the correspondence between them is-

Uh... yes.

You have convinced me with this very post that Trump is in love with Kim Jong Un

Now you can write fanfiction of the two.

[Cannot think of a name]

-looks at just how flowery the correspondence between them is-

Uh... yes.

You have convinced me with this very post that Trump is in love with Kim Jong Un

I mean...

[Aureumterra]

You have convinced me with this very post that Trump is in love with Kim Jong Un

Now you can write fanfiction of the two.

I’m sure the renewed sanctions would strain it