2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

[Valrifell]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54110457

Microsoft says the Russians are at it again.

Oh those wacky Russians.

[Thermodolia]

In Plaza news, Prop 22 in California is now the most expensive ballot measure in the state's history with over $186 million spent on the campaigns, the vast majority of which is coming from Uber and Lyft: https://news.ballotpedia.org/2020/09/09/with-funding-from-uber-lyft-and-doordash-campaign-behind-california-proposition-22-tops-180-million/

Could have spent that money on their drivers...

Don’t be silly the workers don’t deserve a living wage. They’d just spend it on silly things like rent or food and not help the economy

[San Lumen]

How about no? The nuclear football should be deactivated and all nuclear weapons dismantled.

Nice fantasy

It’s what should be done. Nuclear weapons should never be used and serve no purpose. Might as well dismantle every single one.

[Dresderstan]

How about no? The nuclear football should be deactivated and all nuclear weapons dismantled.

Nice fantasy

Not the first sort of fanatical utopia he's said before.

[San Lumen]

Nice fantasy

Not the first sort of fanatical utopia he's said before.

What’s fantastical about it?

[Vassenor]

The United Nations and a number of international institutions have already been or are in the process of being subverted by the CCP, including a certain world body I won't name here because of site rules. The Trump Administration is right to give the United Nations, the WHO, UNESCO, and other international bodies the big, fat, middle finger. International law has been politicized and appropriated by the likes of Russia, China, Iran, and other bad actors. If China can tear up the Sino-British Joint Declaration and genocide the Uighurs and if Assad and Russia can slaughter Syrian civilians, then Boris Johnson can tear up the Withdrawal Agreement and Israel can continue building settlements in the West Bank. Why should the United States and its Western allies continue to play by a set of rules that its enemies keep ignoring? To hell with the UN and international law. Trump's foreign policy is so much better than Obama's ever was. All's fair in love and war.

So what you're saying is the best way to counter Chinese influence is to remove America's ability to directly counter Chinese influence?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Not the first sort of fanatical utopia he's said before.

What’s fantastical about it?

It displays a gross misunderstanding of the usage of WMD's in maintaining a semblance of international balance and preventing another 1939.

[San Lumen]

What’s fantastical about it?

It displays a gross misunderstanding of the usage of WMD's in maintaining a semblance of international balance and preventing another 1939.

How has it done that?

[Thermodolia]

Nice fantasy

It’s what should be done. Nuclear weapons should never be used and serve no purpose. Might as well dismantle every single one.

It will never happen. Especially when nations like Israel, Iran, North Korea, Pakistan, PRC, and India exist. They don’t care about the international world. Hell India, Pakistan, Israel, and North Korea aren’t even members of the Non-Proliferation Treaty which says they shouldn’t have nukes in the first place.

It’s not hard to make a nuclear bomb if you know how. Nukes are stuck with us unless we destroy all Nuclear technology

[Valrifell]

What’s fantastical about it?

It displays a gross misunderstanding of the usage of WMD's in maintaining a semblance of international balance and preventing another 1939.

I mean while the threat of nukes have been helpful to preventing war, it wasn't the only contributing factor. Further, having several close calls and being on the precipice on annihilation isn't exactly a fun prospect.

It's never the purposeful first strikes that anyone should be concerned about, it's communication and systems failure.

[Dresderstan]

It’s what should be done. Nuclear weapons should never be used and serve no purpose. Might as well dismantle every single one.

It will never happen. Especially when nations like Israel, Iran, North Korea, Pakistan, PRC, and India exist. They don’t care about the international world. Hell India, Pakistan, Israel, and North Korea aren’t even members of the Non-Proliferation Treaty which says they shouldn’t have nukes in the first place.

It’s not hard to make a nuclear bomb if you know how. Nukes are stuck with us unless we destroy all Nuclear technology

And that will and never should happen.

[Thermodolia]

It displays a gross misunderstanding of the usage of WMD's in maintaining a semblance of international balance and preventing another 1939.

How has it done that?

No sane nation wants to go to war with a nation that has nukes. Ever since Pakistan and India got nukes they haven’t gone to a major shooting war. North Korea got nukes to keep from being invaded.

South Africa had the same idea, and gave them up because they didn’t want a bunch of non-whites to have control of them.

[San Lumen]

How has it done that?

No sane nation wants to go to war with a nation that has nukes. Ever since Pakistan and India got nukes they haven’t gone to a major shooting war. North Korea got nukes to keep from being invaded.

South Africa had the same idea, and gave them up because they didn’t want a bunch of non-whites to have control of them.

And then we have someone like Trump who would drop a nuclear bomb on Tehran or Pyongyang because he felt like it. There are terrible weapons that never should have been developed and it’s long past time we set an example and dismantled every single one of ours.

[Thermodolia]

It displays a gross misunderstanding of the usage of WMD's in maintaining a semblance of international balance and preventing another 1939.

I mean while the threat of nukes have been helpful to preventing war, it wasn't the only contributing factor. Further, having several close calls and being on the precipice on annihilation isn't exactly a fun prospect.

It's never the purposeful first strikes that anyone should be concerned about, it's communication and systems failure.

Russia is especially prone to that with their dead hand system. If that thing stops transmitting it means that Moscow has been wiped off the map.

If a technical issue took it suddenly off line we could be in a world of hurt

[Washington Resistance Army]

It displays a gross misunderstanding of the usage of WMD's in maintaining a semblance of international balance and preventing another 1939.

How has it done that?

Nuclear weapons in particular can largely be attributed to be the reason why conventional warfare didn't break out between ourselves and the Soviets on numerous occasions. Whilst I maintain that we would have beaten them in such a conflict our ability to vaporize a city with a single undoubtedly put a damper on any March to the Atlantic scenarios.

[Thermodolia]

No sane nation wants to go to war with a nation that has nukes. Ever since Pakistan and India got nukes they haven’t gone to a major shooting war. North Korea got nukes to keep from being invaded.

South Africa had the same idea, and gave them up because they didn’t want a bunch of non-whites to have control of them.

And then we have someone like Trump who would drop a nuclear bomb on Tehran or Pyongyang because he felt like it. There are terrible weapons that never should have been developed and it’s long past time we set an example and dismantled every single one of ours.

And then what? Be butt fucked by those who don’t give two fucks about international law? India and Israel both haven’t signed the NPT. Something the US, Russia, and the PRC all have.

If we got rid of our nukes we’d be out of great power status let alone superpower.

[San Lumen]

How has it done that?

Nuclear weapons in particular can largely be attributed to be the reason why conventional warfare didn't break out between ourselves and the Soviets on numerous occasions. Whilst I maintain that we would have beaten them in such a conflict our ability to vaporize a city with a single undoubtedly put a damper on any March to the Atlantic scenarios.

No city should ever suffer a fate like Hiroshima did.

[Dresderstan]

No sane nation wants to go to war with a nation that has nukes. Ever since Pakistan and India got nukes they haven’t gone to a major shooting war. North Korea got nukes to keep from being invaded.

South Africa had the same idea, and gave them up because they didn’t want a bunch of non-whites to have control of them.

And then we have someone like Trump who would drop a nuclear bomb on Tehran or Pyongyang because he felt like it. There are terrible weapons that never should have been developed and it’s long past time we set an example and dismantled every single one of ours.

Get off your fucking soapbox and fucking listen why don't you, the answer is no.

[San Lumen]

And then we have someone like Trump who would drop a nuclear bomb on Tehran or Pyongyang because he felt like it. There are terrible weapons that never should have been developed and it’s long past time we set an example and dismantled every single one of ours.

Get off your fucking soapbox and fucking listen why don't you, the answer is no.

Excuse me for not wanting weapons which could destroy the world.

[Thermodolia]

Nuclear weapons in particular can largely be attributed to be the reason why conventional warfare didn't break out between ourselves and the Soviets on numerous occasions. Whilst I maintain that we would have beaten them in such a conflict our ability to vaporize a city with a single undoubtedly put a damper on any March to the Atlantic scenarios.

No city should ever suffer a fate like Hiroshima did.

Hiroshima is doing pretty good all things considered.

And our current nukes are about 20 to 50 times worse than the bomb at Hiroshima

[Dresderstan]

Get off your fucking soapbox and fucking listen why don't you, the answer is no.

Excuse me for not wanting weapons which could destroy the world.

Excuse me for not fucking caring what your naive bleeding heart thinks.

[San Lumen]

No city should ever suffer a fate like Hiroshima did.

Hiroshima is doing pretty good all things considered.

And our current nukes are about 20 to 50 times worse than the bomb at Hiroshima

All the better reason to dismantle them all.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Nuclear weapons in particular can largely be attributed to be the reason why conventional warfare didn't break out between ourselves and the Soviets on numerous occasions. Whilst I maintain that we would have beaten them in such a conflict our ability to vaporize a city with a single undoubtedly put a damper on any March to the Atlantic scenarios.

No city should ever suffer a fate like Hiroshima did.

One can make a quite good argument that the Hiroshima bombing was actually much more humane than the conventional bombing campaign on Japan.

[Dresderstan]

Hiroshima is doing pretty good all things considered.

And our current nukes are about 20 to 50 times worse than the bomb at Hiroshima

All the better reason to dismantle them all.

No, again you're not fucking listening, you think the world is a clear cut black and white as simple as that, it fucking isn't.

[Fartsniffage]

Nuclear weapons in particular can largely be attributed to be the reason why conventional warfare didn't break out between ourselves and the Soviets on numerous occasions. Whilst I maintain that we would have beaten them in such a conflict our ability to vaporize a city with a single undoubtedly put a damper on any March to the Atlantic scenarios.

No city should ever suffer a fate like Hiroshima did.

What about St. Louise?