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2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:09 am

It amuses me to no end that the Cuban population in Florida actually thinks anyone in DC gives a shit about overthrowing the Cuban regime now. Like, that hasn't been a serious topic in decades.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:10 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:They don’t just support him, they literally worship him. All because they think he will lead a crusade and overthrow the Cuban regime. And not just the old ones, the younger generation too, it’s bizarre being in Miami now…

Tbf Trump is more likely to lead a crusade and overthrow the Cuban regime than Biden


I wonder how well Batista would poll among Anti-Castro Cubans? What Iv'e been told is Cuban's just like strongman. It really just depends which ones.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:10 am

Aureumterra wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:They don’t just support him, they literally worship him. All because they think he will lead a crusade and overthrow the Cuban regime. And not just the old ones, the younger generation too, it’s bizarre being in Miami now…

Tbf Trump is more likely to lead a crusade and overthrow the Cuban regime than Biden

I don't think so. Trump is certainly more likely to say he's going to lead a crusade to overthrow the Cuban regime, but the odds of him following up on that in any substantial way are slim at best. He might try to get Eric Price to arrange a second Bay of Pigs.

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Postby United States of Devonta » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:10 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:It amuses me to no end that the Cuban population in Florida actually thinks anyone in DC gives a shit about overthrowing the Cuban regime now. Like, that hasn't been a serious topic in decades.


Tbf no one said it was based on logic. Many of these people are Trump supporters to a very unhealthy level. Almost complete worship.
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Postby -Astoria- » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:11 am

Ifreann wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Tbf Trump is more likely to lead a crusade and overthrow the Cuban regime than Biden

I don't think so. Trump is certainly more likely to say he's going to lead a crusade to overthrow the Cuban regime, but the odds of him following up on that in any substantial way are slim at best. He might try to get Eric Price to arrange a second Bay of Pigs.

There was one about a few months ago; but in Venezuela.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:12 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:There was no need to wait for Trump's policies, the market jumped at the prospect of him becoming president. The hype was beneficial.

Well, that was a response that had nothing to do with what we were talking about.

It does, actually. The market did not need to wait for Trump's policies to take effect in order to lower the unemployment rate, because they were expecting a pro-business administration.
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Northern Davincia wrote:There was no need to wait for Trump's policies, the market jumped at the prospect of him becoming president. The hype was beneficial.


The trend line doesn't lie.

It does not lie, but it can be misleading.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:14 am

The talking point of "black" unemployment isn't particularly outstanding.

Black unemployment in the peak year (2010) was 84% higher than white unemployment.
Black unemployment last year (2019) was 85% higher than white unemployment. Statista

It looks from ^that chart, that it was Latino unemployment which reduced most.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:15 am

-Astoria- wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I don't think so. Trump is certainly more likely to say he's going to lead a crusade to overthrow the Cuban regime, but the odds of him following up on that in any substantial way are slim at best. He might try to get Eric Price to arrange a second Bay of Pigs.

There was one about a few months ago; but in Venezuela.

Very thoroughly shambolic, from what I've heard.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:15 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Well, that was a response that had nothing to do with what we were talking about.

It does, actually. The market did not need to wait for Trump's policies to take effect in order to lower the unemployment rate, because they were expecting a pro-business administration.

Not really how it works and in no way addresses the initial point...actually, undermines the idea that Trump isn't racist because he improved black unemployment. By your new logic, it's just a side effect. So good job undermining your confrere's argument. We're good now.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:16 am

Zurkerx wrote:A majority of voters don’t see Trump and Biden as mentally fit to be President across six Battleground States. Those States were Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

51% said Trump was mentally unfit to 49% saying he was while 52% said Biden was mentally unfit to 48% saying he was fit, showing voters equally view both candidates as unfit mentally.

However, physically, it's a different story: 52% said Trump is physically fit while 54% said the same thing of Biden.

From the national poll, 55% said Trump was mentally unfit, while 45% said he was fit. Biden was deemed unfit by 52% and fit by 48%.


And how many of these people in these states are mentally or physically fit themselves? I have to laugh. :lol:

*coughs*

Uh oh. :eek:
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:23 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:It amuses me to no end that the Cuban population in Florida actually thinks anyone in DC gives a shit about overthrowing the Cuban regime now. Like, that hasn't been a serious topic in decades.


Hey man! The embargoes will work. It’s only been 60 years and 4 years since Fidel passed away. They will surrender any day now!
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:28 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Well, that was a response that had nothing to do with what we were talking about.

It does, actually. The market did not need to wait for Trump's policies to take effect in order to lower the unemployment rate, because they were expecting a pro-business administration.


How long do they have to wait? Until the next Demo President comes in and fixes things?

The “cut cut cut” bill was promised to do amazing things. I did get cut from the company and the company used that new money to do a stock buy back.

United States of Devonta wrote:
The trend line doesn't lie.

It does not lie, but it can be misleading.


Maybe the stock buy backs created a false bubble of prosperty.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:55 am

So apparently Trump spilled nuclear Secrets to Bob Woodward during a late night phone call on Trumps personal phone, a phone which he refused to let the White House monitor.

So basically not only is he an idiot he’s also leaking state secrets
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:56 am

Thermodolia wrote:So apparently Trump spilled nuclear Secrets to Bob Woodward during a late night phone call on Trumps personal phone, a phone which he refused to let the White House monitor.

So basically not only is he an idiot he’s also leaking state secrets


Did he now? Where there any specifics?
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Postby United States of Devonta » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:56 am

Thermodolia wrote:So apparently Trump spilled nuclear Secrets to Bob Woodward during a late night phone call on Trumps personal phone, a phone which he refused to let the White House monitor.

So basically not only is he an idiot he’s also leaking state secrets


Tell me that's on tape. This might be something leaked throughout the rest of the election.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:58 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So apparently Trump spilled nuclear Secrets to Bob Woodward during a late night phone call on Trumps personal phone, a phone which he refused to let the White House monitor.

So basically not only is he an idiot he’s also leaking state secrets


Did he now? Where there any specifics?

Not exactly. He just said that we’ve created a weapon that our enemies don’t know about. Apparently such a thing does exist but it’s existence was highly classified.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:58 am

United States of Devonta wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So apparently Trump spilled nuclear Secrets to Bob Woodward during a late night phone call on Trumps personal phone, a phone which he refused to let the White House monitor.

So basically not only is he an idiot he’s also leaking state secrets


Tell me that's on tape. This might be something leaked throughout the rest of the election.

I believe so.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:00 am

Thermodolia wrote:So apparently Trump spilled nuclear Secrets to Bob Woodward during a late night phone call on Trumps personal phone, a phone which he refused to let the White House monitor.

So basically not only is he an idiot he’s also leaking state secrets


Fake news, lies by the lamestream media, an attempt by Dems to discredit Trump, where is Biden etc etc. I mean, I won't waste my time thinking this will hurt him, when that hackneyed response still works on all the absurdly gullible people out there.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:00 am

Thermodolia wrote:So apparently Trump spilled nuclear Secrets to Bob Woodward during a late night phone call on Trumps personal phone, a phone which he refused to let the White House monitor.

So basically not only is he an idiot he’s also leaking state secrets


Isn't Woodard taking a risk just saying that? And what's he supposed to do if he has secret stuff forced on him ... just forgetting it isn't an option.

I worry that Trump might have set him up.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:01 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So apparently Trump spilled nuclear Secrets to Bob Woodward during a late night phone call on Trumps personal phone, a phone which he refused to let the White House monitor.

So basically not only is he an idiot he’s also leaking state secrets


Isn't Woodard taking a risk just saying that? And what's he supposed to do if he has secret stuff forced on him ... just forgetting it isn't an option.

I worry that Trump might have set him up.

Trump is too much of a fucking idiot to set anyone up
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:02 am

Thermodolia wrote:So apparently Trump spilled nuclear Secrets to Bob Woodward during a late night phone call on Trumps personal phone, a phone which he refused to let the White House monitor.

So basically not only is he an idiot he’s also leaking state secrets


While I don't condone leaking state secrets the President can declassify anything they want at anytime.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:03 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So apparently Trump spilled nuclear Secrets to Bob Woodward during a late night phone call on Trumps personal phone, a phone which he refused to let the White House monitor.

So basically not only is he an idiot he’s also leaking state secrets


While I don't condone leaking state secrets the President can declassify anything they want at anytime.


You think that works? Retroactively?
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Postby United States of Devonta » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:04 am

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So apparently Trump spilled nuclear Secrets to Bob Woodward during a late night phone call on Trumps personal phone, a phone which he refused to let the White House monitor.

So basically not only is he an idiot he’s also leaking state secrets


While I don't condone leaking state secrets the President can declassify anything they want at anytime.


To a reporter out of the blue. Ehh that's kinda dumb. Usually theirs a procedure that happens.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:04 am

Thermodolia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Did he now? Where there any specifics?

Not exactly. He just said that we’ve created a weapon that our enemies don’t know about. Apparently such a thing does exist but it’s existence was highly classified.

It is extremely easy to believe that Trump, having been briefed on the development of some new and secret weapon, would not be able to resist bragging.

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:06 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
While I don't condone leaking state secrets the President can declassify anything they want at anytime.


You think that works? Retroactively?


what do you mean retroactively? The President can declassify anything they want. Once its declassified i don't think one could be charged with a crime after leaving office.

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