2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

[San Lumen]

If someone meets the requirements to run for a position you cannot legally remove them from the ballot or bar them from running

Do you want Nazis to run for office?

It doesn’t matter what I want. The eligibility requirements to run for an office apply equally to all. You meet the requirements you can run. There are no ifs ands or buts

[Thermodolia]

This is the guy who wants tens of millions to lose their votes all because they live in cities and "Abuse a privilege"


So you are gona get a monumentally fucking stupid answer no doubt.

"but... muh guns"

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”

[Kannap]

We should be. I’d rather not have Q Anon crazies anywhere in the government be that the legislature or the police or anywhere else. Same with nazis and white nats.

And what’s to stop the BOE or Secretary of State from barring anyone whose viewpoints they don’t like. Your opening a very dangerous door hence why we have not done it. Every person regardless of viewpoints if they are eligible has a legal right to run for any office they desire.

Revolution.

The majority of people think Nazis are bad, that's a no-brainer. We had a whole world war where we determined that. Ban Nazis from holding office and you're probably fine. If you ban the majority of people from holding office, they revolt.

[La Xinga]

If someone meets the requirements to run for a position you cannot legally remove them from the ballot or bar them from running

Do you want Nazis to run for office?

I don't think they'll get elected..........

[Thermodolia]

Do you want Nazis to run for office?

It doesn’t matter what I want. The eligibility requirements to run for an office apply equally to all. There are no ifs ands or buts

Answer the question. Do you want nazis to run for office yes or no.

[Kannap]

Do you want Nazis to run for office?

It doesn’t matter what I want. The eligibility requirements to run for an office apply equally to all. There are no ifs ands or buts

That's stupid and should be fixed. Letting Q Anon types, Nazis, and science-deniers hold offices where they have power is dangerous to all of society and they shouldn't have that access to power.

[Thermodolia]

And what’s to stop the BOE or Secretary of State from barring anyone whose viewpoints they don’t like. Your opening a very dangerous door hence why we have not done it. Every person regardless of viewpoints if they are eligible has a legal right to run for any office they desire.

Revolution.

The majority of people think Nazis are bad, that's a no-brainer. We had a whole world war where we determined that. Ban Nazis from holding office and you're probably fine. If you ban the majority of people from holding office, they revolt.

Germany seems to be quite fine with banning Nazis from office and they haven’t gone and banned everyone from running. This slippery slope fallacy is just that a fallacy

[Loben III]

It doesn’t matter what I want. The eligibility requirements to run for an office apply equally to all. There are no ifs ands or buts

That's stupid and should be fixed. Letting Q Anon types, Nazis, and science-deniers hold offices where they have power is dangerous to all of society and they shouldn't have that access to power.

can we also deny office to Socialists and communists?

[Vassenor]

That's stupid and should be fixed. Letting Q Anon types, Nazis, and science-deniers hold offices where they have power is dangerous to all of society and they shouldn't have that access to power.

can we also deny office to Socialists and communists?

Maybe you should start by explaining what makes Socialism objectively bad.

[San Lumen]

It doesn’t matter what I want. The eligibility requirements to run for an office apply equally to all. There are no ifs ands or buts

That's stupid and should be fixed. Letting Q Anon types, Nazis, and science-deniers hold offices where they have power is dangerous to all of society and they shouldn't have that access to power.

If we open that door what is stop the person or persons from barring anyone they don’t like from the ballot? Why hasn’t the Georgia Secretary of State Removed ms Greene from the ballot? They legally cannot. It is up to the voters to decide who they want

[Jedi Council]

That's stupid and should be fixed. Letting Q Anon types, Nazis, and science-deniers hold offices where they have power is dangerous to all of society and they shouldn't have that access to power.

can we also deny office to Socialists and communists?

Equating socialism with Nazism or QAnon is just stupid

[Loben III]

can we also deny office to Socialists and communists?

Maybe you should start by explaining what makes Socialism objectively bad.

to you?

[Thermodolia]

That's stupid and should be fixed. Letting Q Anon types, Nazis, and science-deniers hold offices where they have power is dangerous to all of society and they shouldn't have that access to power.

If we open that door what is stop the person or persons from barring anyone they don’t like from the ballot? Why hasn’t the Georgia Secretary of State Removed ms Greene from the ballot? They legally cannot. It is up to the voters to decide who they want

Dude I already explained why this is a bullshit fallacy.

And what’s to stop the BOE or Secretary of State from barring anyone whose viewpoints they don’t like. Your opening a very dangerous door hence why we have not done it. Every person regardless of viewpoints if they are eligible has a legal right to run for any office they desire.

Germany seems to do it pretty fine without going down that slippery slope nonsense. You just say that if you are a nazi, race supremacist, anti-vaxxer, or a follower of Q Anon then you can’t run for office, serve in the military, or be a cop.

It’s pretty hard to start banning anyone you don’t like when you make the ban narrow.

[Jedi Council]

That's stupid and should be fixed. Letting Q Anon types, Nazis, and science-deniers hold offices where they have power is dangerous to all of society and they shouldn't have that access to power.

If we open that door what is stop the person or persons from barring anyone they don’t like from the ballot? Why hasn’t the Georgia Secretary of State Removed ms Greene from the ballot? They legally cannot. It is up to the voters to decide who they want

I spy a slippery slope fallacy

[San Lumen]

If we open that door what is stop the person or persons from barring anyone they don’t like from the ballot? Why hasn’t the Georgia Secretary of State Removed ms Greene from the ballot? They legally cannot. It is up to the voters to decide who they want

Dude I already explained why this is a bullshit fallacy.

Germany seems to do it pretty fine without going down that slippery slope nonsense. You just say that if you are a nazi, race supremacist, anti-vaxxer, or a follower of Q Anon then you can’t run for office, serve in the military, or be a cop.

It’s pretty hard to start banning anyone you don’t like when you make the ban narrow.

German law and US law is different. How are you going to make such a law narrow?

[Sundiata]

I don't think it's right in principle to ban a person from running for political office, any person.

[Thermodolia]

Dude I already explained why this is a bullshit fallacy.

German law and US law is different. How are you going to make such a law narrow?

You say it only applies to these groups and then list those groups? This really isn’t that hard to understand

[San Lumen]

German law and US law is different. How are you going to make such a law narrow?

You say it only applies to these groups and then list those groups? This really isn’t that hard to understand

I don’t think such a law would be found constitutional. You cannot limit the right to run for office to any person regardless of viewpoints

[Vassenor]

Maybe you should start by explaining what makes Socialism objectively bad.

to you?

I mean it needs to be objectively bad if you want to ban them from holding office.

[Washington Resistance Army]

That's stupid and should be fixed. Letting Q Anon types, Nazis, and science-deniers hold offices where they have power is dangerous to all of society and they shouldn't have that access to power.

can we also deny office to Socialists and communists?

If only, that'd be great.

[Kannap]

That's stupid and should be fixed. Letting Q Anon types, Nazis, and science-deniers hold offices where they have power is dangerous to all of society and they shouldn't have that access to power.

If we open that door what is stop the person or persons from barring anyone they don’t like from the ballot? Why hasn’t the Georgia Secretary of State Removed ms Greene from the ballot? They legally cannot. It is up to the voters to decide who they want

I'm not going to continue discussing with you if you're not going to bother reading what I've said.

[Jerzylvania]

"but... muh guns"

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”

Except in the case of assault weaponry. No one including workers need them to defend themselves. But that's an argument for a completely different thread.

[Kannap]

Dude I already explained why this is a bullshit fallacy.

German law and US law is different. How are you going to make such a law narrow?

German law, in this case, is right; US law is wrong.

[Thermodolia]

You say it only applies to these groups and then list those groups? This really isn’t that hard to understand

I don’t think such a law would be found constitutional. You cannot limit the right to run for office to any person regardless of viewpoints

Who the fuck cares? They are nazis. They shouldn’t be allowed in office. I’d rather not be killed for being Jewish just because we allowed nazis and their ilk to run for office and gain power.

You can’t just be a door mat when it comes to being tolerant. A line has to be drawn somewhere

[Washington Resistance Army]

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”

Except in the case of assault weaponry. No one including workers need them to defend themselves. But that's an argument for a completely different thread.

Assault weaponry literally isn't a real thing.