2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

[Cannot think of a name]

Man, this is a terrible time to have a cough...

[Thermodolia]

Oooooh, he’s at the UAW. ‘Cause now he’s standing in front of a Chevy Bolt and Ford F-150.

Oh shit, Biden is the original owner of a 1967 Corvette. Points to Biden, one of the only Vettes I like.

He’s gonna talk about his Made in AMerica plan, so safeth the lower third.

Union Made the American Way!

I should really put that on a shirt

[Cannot think of a name]

So far it’s less the Made in America plan and more ‘Trump done fucked up.”

EDIT: We’ve moved on to the Atlantic article portion of the Trump Roast.

Oh no, wait, now we’re on Obama bailing out the auto industry which i guess he was kind of in charge of in Michigan I guess...

EDIT 2: Okay, so the gist of proposal is that he’ll give incentives to companies that reshore jobs, retool plants etc. The goal is 1 million auto jobs. Part of that is that he’s going to convert the government’s fleet of cars to electric to help jump start the infrastructure for that and making it more affordable to everyone else in the process.

Suck it, hydrogen, I guess. Though that has had the same problem for like three decades, so...

Also, really wants that one off electric Corvette that went 220mph.

[Northern Davincia]

If Biden laughs at Trump like he did Ryan then it will probably go in Biden’s favor.

Oh yea. That dismissal laugh? I don’t think Trump could handle it.

Biden may force it and it will lose impact. Timing is everything.

[The Black Forrest]

Oh yea. That dismissal laugh? I don’t think Trump could handle it.

Biden may force it and it will lose impact. Timing is everything.

Indeed. The problem with trump is he will give Biden many many opportunities.

[Corrian]

Man, this is a terrible time to have a cough...

Been having one the last few days, but this is also when the GOD DAMN COLD FRONT OF ALL THINGS decided to bring winds with it that fueled all the fires. So there's just lingering smoke causing me issues.

[United States of Devonta]

So far it’s less the Made in America plan and more ‘Trump done fucked up.”

EDIT: We’ve moved on to the Atlantic article portion of the Trump Roast.

Oh no, wait, now we’re on Obama bailing out the auto industry which i guess he was kind of in charge of in Michigan I guess...

EDIT 2: Okay, so the gist of proposal is that he’ll give incentives to companies that reshore jobs, retool plants etc. The goal is 1 million auto jobs. Part of that is that he’s going to convert the government’s fleet of cars to electric to help jump start the infrastructure for that and making it more affordable to everyone else in the process.

Suck it, hydrogen, I guess. Though that has had the same problem for like three decades, so...

Also, really wants that one off electric Corvette that went 220mph.

Was a good speech, tbh.

[Cannot think of a name]

So far it’s less the Made in America plan and more ‘Trump done fucked up.”

EDIT: We’ve moved on to the Atlantic article portion of the Trump Roast.

Oh no, wait, now we’re on Obama bailing out the auto industry which i guess he was kind of in charge of in Michigan I guess...

EDIT 2: Okay, so the gist of proposal is that he’ll give incentives to companies that reshore jobs, retool plants etc. The goal is 1 million auto jobs. Part of that is that he’s going to convert the government’s fleet of cars to electric to help jump start the infrastructure for that and making it more affordable to everyone else in the process.

Suck it, hydrogen, I guess. Though that has had the same problem for like three decades, so...

Also, really wants that one off electric Corvette that went 220mph.

Was a good speech, tbh.

It wasn’t bad.

[Zurkerx]

A former US Official was told to told halt Russia intelligence assessments; they also wanted officials to alter intelligence to match Trump claims.

That official was told to instead report more on Chinese and Iranian Interference, which is reportedly trying to help Biden more so. That order came directly from National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien. They also wanted to alter intelligence reports on White Supremacists and ANTIFA to match Trump's rhetoric on the issue, among other things.

If that's true, then it clearly shows Trump's re-election efforts go far deeper than previously suspected. That is some dangerous stuff right there.

[Vassenor]

A former US Official was told to told halt Russia intelligence assessments; they also wanted officials to alter intelligence to match Trump claims.

That official was told to instead report more on Chinese and Iranian Interference, which is reportedly trying to help Biden more so. That order came directly from National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien. They also wanted to alter intelligence reports on White Supremacists and ANTIFA to match Trump's rhetoric on the issue, among other things.

If that's true, then it clearly shows Trump's re-election efforts go far deeper than previously suspected. That is some dangerous stuff right there.

So yeah we're just going straight up MiniTruth here.

[Kowani]

A former US Official was told to told halt Russia intelligence assessments; they also wanted officials to alter intelligence to match Trump claims.

That official was told to instead report more on Chinese and Iranian Interference, which is reportedly trying to help Biden more so. That order came directly from National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien. They also wanted to alter intelligence reports on White Supremacists and ANTIFA to match Trump's rhetoric on the issue, among other things.

If that's true, then it clearly shows Trump's re-election efforts go far deeper than previously suspected. That is some dangerous stuff right there.

I’m not sure how we could insulate the bureaucracy from political meddling, honestly.

[United States of Devonta]

A former US Official was told to told halt Russia intelligence assessments; they also wanted officials to alter intelligence to match Trump claims.

That official was told to instead report more on Chinese and Iranian Interference, which is reportedly trying to help Biden more so. That order came directly from National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien. They also wanted to alter intelligence reports on White Supremacists and ANTIFA to match Trump's rhetoric on the issue, among other things.

If that's true, then it clearly shows Trump's re-election efforts go far deeper than previously suspected. That is some dangerous stuff right there.

From the new Trump tapes to this, it's just so much. Biden has allot of ammo.

[Organized States]

Former DNI Coates reportedly believed Putin had "something" on Trump

There's a lot to unpack in this book.

[Cannot think of a name]

Former DNI Coates reportedly believed Putin had "something" on Trump

There's a lot to unpack in this book.

In a later conversation reported by Woodward, Mattis told Coats, "The president has no moral compass." Coats reportedly responded, “True. To him, a lie is not a lie. It’s just what he thinks. He doesn’t know the difference between the truth and a lie."

That seems about right.

[Organized States]

Former DNI Coates reportedly believed Putin had "something" on Trump

There's a lot to unpack in this book.

In a later conversation reported by Woodward, Mattis told Coats, "The president has no moral compass." Coats reportedly responded, “True. To him, a lie is not a lie. It’s just what he thinks. He doesn’t know the difference between the truth and a lie."

That seems about right.

Yeah.

This book is pretty much the worst thing to come out right after The Atlantic's article.

[Jerzylvania]

People have died needlessly because of the botched Covid response. Coates and Mattis understand Trump lies matter. OTOH too many MAGA folks haven't displayed enough critical thinking skills to wear a mask and social distance themselves. Sadly they aren't going to learn the lesson about the effect of Trump's lack of veracity either. But as it is, the remaining undecided in this election aren't actually MAGA folks. Woodward's book is gonna leave a mark.

[Organized States]

People have died needlessly because of the botched Covid response. Coates and Mattis understand Trump lies matter. OTOH too many MAGA folks haven't displayed enough critical thinking skills to wear a mask and social distance themselves. Sadly they aren't going to learn the lesson about the effect of Trump's lack of veracity either. But as it is, the remaining undecided in this election aren't actually MAGA folks. Woodward's book is gonna leave a mark.

Agreed.

I think when combined with last week's article, the Biden Campaign has pretty much all the ammunition for an aggressive campaign blitz in the last few weeks.

[Insaanistan]

Cohen also said a dialogue of this effect took place at a memorial for Madiba:
Trump: Is there any country ever run by a black that isn’t a sh*****e?
Cohen: How about the United States?
Trump: F**k you.

[Major-Tom]

Cohen also said a dialogue of this effect took place at a memorial for Madiba:
Trump: Is there any country ever run by a black that isn’t a sh*****e?
Cohen: How about the United States?
Trump: F**k you.

I think Trump is a vehement racist, but the Cohen quotes sound so...not Trump that I doubt them? Racists like Donald don't often just outright say "oh black people run shitholes," they just think it and insinuate it quite rigidly, but they never outright say it, if that makes sense. They just use coded language.

But, hey, I could be wrong, maybe Trump did say these things. I don't know what's true anymore, I just know I want him out.

[Organized States]

Cohen also said a dialogue of this effect took place at a memorial for Madiba:
Trump: Is there any country ever run by a black that isn’t a sh*****e?
Cohen: How about the United States?
Trump: F**k you.

While I think this is not outside the realm of possibility, Michael Cohen is a convicted liar and I'm not inclined to believe what he says because it confirms my own beliefs. Nor am I inclined to pay for the fucker's legal bills.

[Insaanistan]

Cohen also said a dialogue of this effect took place at a memorial for Madiba:
Trump: Is there any country ever run by a black that isn’t a sh*****e?
Cohen: How about the United States?
Trump: F**k you.

While I think this is not outside the realm of possibility, Michael Cohen is a convicted liar and I'm not inclined to believe what he says because it confirms my own beliefs. Nor am I inclined to pay for the fucker's legal bills.

All very good points, but remember, this is Trump we’re talking about. Is there anything wrong that he won’t say or do?

[Organized States]

While I think this is not outside the realm of possibility, Michael Cohen is a convicted liar and I'm not inclined to believe what he says because it confirms my own beliefs. Nor am I inclined to pay for the fucker's legal bills.

All very good points, but remember, this is Trump we’re talking about. Is there anything wrong that he won’t say or do?

Uhh... resign?

That's all I got, sorry.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Cohen also said a dialogue of this effect took place at a memorial for Madiba:
Trump: Is there any country ever run by a black that isn’t a sh*****e?
Cohen: How about the United States?
Trump: F**k you.

While I think this is not outside the realm of possibility, Michael Cohen is a convicted liar and I'm not inclined to believe what he says because it confirms my own beliefs. Nor am I inclined to pay for the fucker's legal bills.

What does he have to gain now tho? When he worked for trump, he was paid to lie, but now there's not much for him to gain by exaggerating the douchebag Trump is

[Farnhamia]

Cohen also said a dialogue of this effect took place at a memorial for Madiba:
Trump: Is there any country ever run by a black that isn’t a sh*****e?
Cohen: How about the United States?
Trump: F**k you.

I think Trump is a vehement racist, but the Cohen quotes sound so...not Trump that I doubt them? Racists like Donald don't often just outright say "oh black people run shitholes," they just think it and insinuate it quite rigidly, but they never outright say it, if that makes sense. They just use coded language.

But, hey, I could be wrong, maybe Trump did say these things. I don't know what's true anymore, I just know I want him out.

There was the "shithole countries" remark, in a Cabinet meeting, I believe. And there are the stories, possibly apocryphal, about Trump never wanting to see Black employees on the floor in his casinos when he strolled through, and the one about him not wanting Black people counting his money (counting money is for guys wearing yarmulkes), and the 1973 civil rights suit (Donald was the company president at the time). So yeah, I think Trump's racism is pretty apparent.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I think Trump is a vehement racist, but the Cohen quotes sound so...not Trump that I doubt them? Racists like Donald don't often just outright say "oh black people run shitholes," they just think it and insinuate it quite rigidly, but they never outright say it, if that makes sense. They just use coded language.

But, hey, I could be wrong, maybe Trump did say these things. I don't know what's true anymore, I just know I want him out.

There was the "shithole countries" remark, in a Cabinet meeting, I believe. And there are the stories, possibly apocryphal, about Trump never wanting to see Black employees on the floor in his casinos when he strolled through, and the one about him not wanting Black people counting his money (counting money is for guys wearing yarmulkes), and the 1973 civil rights suit (Donald was the company president at the time). So yeah, I think Trump's racism is pretty apparent.

Trump is a stereotypical old white guy from the 20th century. He was raised in a time when few Americans actually viewed black people as equals.

Not that he's less of a piece of shit. Racism is still racism.