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2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby Loben III » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:28 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:Mr. Rogers widow has gone on record as saying that Donald Trump is a horrible person. If you're planning on voting for him you might be disappointing Mr. Rogers. You wouldn't want to do that, would you?

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... a-horrible


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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Similar claims were made pre-1860.

Lincoln was still elected and inaugurated and an election was held in the middle of the Civil War too.

Yes, but even as Bleeding Kansas rattled the country, there were some who denied the inevitable because it was too horrible to contemplate.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:37 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Lincoln was still elected and inaugurated and an election was held in the middle of the Civil War too.

Yes, but even as Bleeding Kansas rattled the country, there were some who denied the inevitable because it was too horrible to contemplate.


That she wasn't pregnant with Arkansas' grandchild yet? :p
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Postby USS Monitor » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:39 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
its not going to happen. This nonsense talk along with that of coups needs to stop.

Similar claims were made pre-1860.


Yeah... I don't feel like we're going to have a civil war this year, but I do worry about where the country is headed if people don't calm the fuck down. In the mid-19th century, there were a lot of smaller conflicts escalating toward the Civil War, and there are times when I worry that the conflicts going on now could escalate that way.

Things have definitely become more unsettled than they were at the turn of the century.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:40 pm

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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:41 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Yes, but even as Bleeding Kansas rattled the country, there were some who denied the inevitable because it was too horrible to contemplate.


That she wasn't pregnant with Arkansas' grandchild yet? :p

Do not put such thoughts in my head!
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Northern Davincia wrote:Similar claims were made pre-1860.


Yeah... I don't feel like we're going to have a civil war this year, but I do worry about where the country is headed if people don't calm the fuck down. In the mid-19th century, there were a lot of smaller conflicts escalating toward the Civil War, and there are times when I worry that the conflicts going on now could escalate that way.

Things have definitely become more unsettled than they were at the turn of the century.

At the current rate, I would give it five to seven years.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:43 pm

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Sure he does. It's called the DHS.


No he doesn't. Many states have specific laws for who is allowed at polling places and no judge is going to rule not counting must stop just because someone is ahead.

His DHS thugs clearly do not care about state laws
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Postby Loben III » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:45 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
No he doesn't. Many states have specific laws for who is allowed at polling places and no judge is going to rule not counting must stop just because someone is ahead.

His DHS thugs clearly do not care about state laws

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:45 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
That she wasn't pregnant with Arkansas' grandchild yet? :p

Do not put such thoughts in my head!
USS Monitor wrote:
Yeah... I don't feel like we're going to have a civil war this year, but I do worry about where the country is headed if people don't calm the fuck down. In the mid-19th century, there were a lot of smaller conflicts escalating toward the Civil War, and there are times when I worry that the conflicts going on now could escalate that way.

Things have definitely become more unsettled than they were at the turn of the century.

At the current rate, I would give it five to seven years.

I’d say we’ll have a civil war or coup or a coup then civil war by at least 10 years
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:50 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
That she wasn't pregnant with Arkansas' grandchild yet? :p

Do not put such thoughts in my head!

Then stop scaring the other grandchildren with your fractured nation fairytales.

Otherwise y'all be gettin' schooled on West Virginia's uncle/grandfather and mother/sister's wedding. :shock:
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:52 pm

A few Excerpts:
Nation's largest police union explains 'overwhelmingly' unanimous Trump endorsement

'We’ve worked very closely with President Trump over the last four years on many initiatives'

The head of the nation's largest police union said Saturday that members endorsed President Trump for reelection because of his strong call for law and order.

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Black Lives Matter and All Lives Matter.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump- ... oes-cavuto

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... ald-trump/
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Postby USS Monitor » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:53 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
Yeah... I don't feel like we're going to have a civil war this year, but I do worry about where the country is headed if people don't calm the fuck down. In the mid-19th century, there were a lot of smaller conflicts escalating toward the Civil War, and there are times when I worry that the conflicts going on now could escalate that way.

Things have definitely become more unsettled than they were at the turn of the century.

At the current rate, I would give it five to seven years.


I think it could be anywhere from 2 years to a couple of centuries. And it's very much something that we have control over. If people decide to calm the fuck down and start building up our country again, it's not too late to do that. A lot of people just don't seem like they want to because they're so wrapped up in some argument on Twitter, and now they can't see the forest for the trees.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:55 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:
At the current rate, I would give it five to seven years.


I think it could be anywhere from 2 years to a couple of centuries. And it's very much something that we have control over. If people decide to calm the fuck down and start building up our country again, it's not too late to do that. A lot of people just don't seem like they want to because they're so wrapped up in some argument on Twitter, and now they can't see the forest for the trees.

Maybe social media was a mistake. Let’s ban twitter and see what happens
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:01 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Do not put such thoughts in my head!

At the current rate, I would give it five to seven years.

I’d say we’ll have a civil war or coup or a coup then civil war by at least 10 years

My money would be by the end of the century for sursies, since if we don’t get our collective shit together before then the world as a whole is gonna descend into a climate change fueled civil war and revolution frenzy that would make the late Bronze Age collapse look like a sunny spring day.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:01 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
I think it could be anywhere from 2 years to a couple of centuries. And it's very much something that we have control over. If people decide to calm the fuck down and start building up our country again, it's not too late to do that. A lot of people just don't seem like they want to because they're so wrapped up in some argument on Twitter, and now they can't see the forest for the trees.

Maybe social media was a mistake. Let’s ban twitter and see what happens


Like, yeah.

Likely Ed Snowden only revealed the tip of the NSA iceberg too. Any insurrectionists fool enough to act would probably get no more than a mile from home before a drone strike splattered their ass into smithereens. Just sayin.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:03 pm

Loben III wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:His DHS thugs clearly do not care about state laws

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state run elections not the federal government

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:03 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
I think it could be anywhere from 2 years to a couple of centuries. And it's very much something that we have control over. If people decide to calm the fuck down and start building up our country again, it's not too late to do that. A lot of people just don't seem like they want to because they're so wrapped up in some argument on Twitter, and now they can't see the forest for the trees.

Maybe social media was a mistake. Let’s ban twitter and see what happens

Let’s just ban everything and go back to smoke signals and carrier pigeons.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:05 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Maybe social media was a mistake. Let’s ban twitter and see what happens

Let’s just ban everything and go back to smoke signals and carrier pigeons.


Do I have a bid for choo-choo trains and Marconi wireless?

Going once, going twice...
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:07 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Loben III wrote:F E D E R A L

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state run elections not the federal government

I don’t think you understand how Trump could use his thugs to harass people going to go vote. They’ve already proven they don’t care for the rule of law when they snatched up people into those black vans.

What makes you think Trump will care about the pesky things called laws
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:08 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:state run elections not the federal government

I don’t think you understand how Trump could use his thugs to harass people going to go vote. They’ve already proven they don’t care for the rule of law when they snatched up people into those black vans.

What makes you think Trump will care about the pesky things called laws


And they will be told they cannot enter the poll site or must leave the premises. Even Republican governors won't stand for that.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:08 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:People like you will deny the onset of a civil war until it is thrust upon them, and the weight will be unbearable.


its not going to happen. This nonsense talk along with that of coups needs to stop.


It probably has already started tbh. Remember the portland shooting? The Kenosha killings? It's gonna get worse.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:10 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I don’t think you understand how Trump could use his thugs to harass people going to go vote. They’ve already proven they don’t care for the rule of law when they snatched up people into those black vans.

What makes you think Trump will care about the pesky things called laws


And they will be told they cannot enter the poll site or must leave the premises. Even Republican governors won't stand for that.


And they'll respond by beating and brutalizing whoever told them they can't enter. Trump not only does not want the embarassment of losing to Biden, he also may be facing criminal charges if he loses the election. He doesn't want to lose his freedom. So he'll take yours away to save his.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:11 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I don’t think you understand how Trump could use his thugs to harass people going to go vote. They’ve already proven they don’t care for the rule of law when they snatched up people into those black vans.

What makes you think Trump will care about the pesky things called laws


And they will be told they cannot enter the poll site or must leave the premises. Even Republican governors won't stand for that.

I think you overestimate what the republicans will not stand for. They have no issues with harassment of voters.

That’s why we need to be vigilant and protect our rights ourselves because we can’t rely on the government
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:12 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
And they will be told they cannot enter the poll site or must leave the premises. Even Republican governors won't stand for that.


And they'll respond by beating and brutalizing whoever told them they can't enter. Trump not only does not want the embarassment of losing to Biden, he also may be facing criminal charges if he loses the election. He doesn't want to lose his freedom. So he'll take yours away to save his.

Lumen seems to be falling into the trap of “it couldn’t happen here”
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:13 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
And they will be told they cannot enter the poll site or must leave the premises. Even Republican governors won't stand for that.


And they'll respond by beating and brutalizing whoever told them they can't enter. Trump not only does not want the embarassment of losing to Biden, he also may be facing criminal charges if he loses the election. He doesn't want to lose his freedom. So he'll take yours away to save his.

Even Republican governors won't stand for that

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