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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:02 am

https://www.wjtv.com/news/tyson-group-p ... mith-espy/

A new poll has Epsy and Hyde Smith within in a point of each other at 41/40 in Mississippi. Given this same pollster had Alabama within four points im a little skeptical.
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Postby Post War America » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:31 am

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Post War America wrote:I'm pretty sure that Lumen openly admitted a Pro-Democrat source was likely not true. But do keep that persecution complex up.

It is a Fact S L has posted to me a few times my right wing sources are garbage, trash and a rag. While I have posted back to S L I don't call S L s leftist sources or anyone s leftist sources, garbage, trash and a rag, I can prove it if I ever have too, I am not lying. I can provide you with the links right now if I wish, or if you wish? Proving my posts as a Fact.


You literally just did it though. Like, I called you out for doing exactly what you blame Dem supporters of doing, while playing the victim card.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:00 pm

Ha, watching a rerun of Ted Cruz defending replacing Ginsberg and one of his pitches was that Republicans being terrible at picking justices that will decide for them once on the bench anyway.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:13 pm

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out ... n-n1240633

Trump has touted a bogus poll that shows him getting 45 percent support among gay men. Highly doubtful when the LGBT community voted for Democrats 82-17 in 2018. Clinton got 78 percent in 2016.
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Postby Kannap » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:18 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-applauds-poll-showing-45-percent-support-among-gay-men-n1240633

Trump has touted a bogus poll that shows him getting 45 percent support among gay men. Highly doubtful when the LGBT community voted for Democrats 82-17 in 2018. Clinton got 78 percent in 2016.


45% among gay men who use Hornet and opted in to answer the question.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:21 pm

Kannap wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-applauds-poll-showing-45-percent-support-among-gay-men-n1240633

Trump has touted a bogus poll that shows him getting 45 percent support among gay men. Highly doubtful when the LGBT community voted for Democrats 82-17 in 2018. Clinton got 78 percent in 2016.


45% among gay men who use Hornet and opted in to answer the question.

hes not going to get 45 percent of the gay male nationally.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:31 pm

If you're a C-SPAN type McConnell is justifying his decision to ruuuuuush through a replacement for Ginsberg. It's basically "watcha gonna do about it, pussies?" with some misleading stats.

Also he's pretty convinced that the will of the people is fuckobama.

EDIT: Holy shit, he wasn't even on the floor for something related to Ginsberg. That long ass speech ended with someone motioning that the bill being introduced on the floor have its title re-read, it was for disaster relief. Like, "Yeah yeah, disease ravaging our country, so many hurricanes we ran out of names, the west is on fire...let me tell you why we should replace Ginsberg right away..."
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:33 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:If you're a C-SPAN type McConnell is justifying his decision to ruuuuuush through a replacement for Ginsberg. It's basically "watcha gonna do about it, pussies?" with some misleading stats.

Also he's pretty convinced that the will of the people is fuckobama.


I freaking hate him. I wish his staff would refuse to work and tell him to screw off.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:38 pm

Kannap wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-applauds-poll-showing-45-percent-support-among-gay-men-n1240633

Trump has touted a bogus poll that shows him getting 45 percent support among gay men. Highly doubtful when the LGBT community voted for Democrats 82-17 in 2018. Clinton got 78 percent in 2016.


45% among gay men who use Hornet and opted in to answer the question.


And how many of those that answered picked support just to screw with the poll?
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:39 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Kannap wrote:
45% among gay men who use Hornet and opted in to answer the question.


And how many of those that answered picked support just to screw with the poll?

hence why its not a scientific poll.

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Postby Maineiacs » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:41 pm

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Kannap wrote:
45% among gay men who use Hornet and opted in to answer the question.


And how many of those that answered picked support just to screw with the poll?



Probably as many as the number of Trump supporters who claimed to support Clinton in 2016 specifically to troll pollsters they thought were in Clinton's pocket.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:42 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
And how many of those that answered picked support just to screw with the poll?



Probably as many as the number of Trump supporters who claimed to support Clinton in 2016 specifically to troll pollsters they thought were in Clinton's pocket.


This nonsense there is some mass conspiracy to rig polls needs to stop.

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Postby Kannap » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:43 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kannap wrote:
45% among gay men who use Hornet and opted in to answer the question.

hes not going to get 45 percent of the gay male nationally.


I didn't say he was.
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Postby Kannap » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:45 pm

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Kannap wrote:
45% among gay men who use Hornet and opted in to answer the question.


And how many of those that answered picked support just to screw with the poll?


I don't know why you're attacking me. I was specifying what the poll actually was/how it was conducted. It was via the app Hornet, and the people who responded weren't chosen to respond, they opted-in/volunteered to respond.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:50 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:If you're a C-SPAN type McConnell is justifying his decision to ruuuuuush through a replacement for Ginsberg. It's basically "watcha gonna do about it, pussies?" with some misleading stats.

Also he's pretty convinced that the will of the people is fuckobama.

EDIT: Holy shit, he wasn't even on the floor for something related to Ginsberg. That long ass speech ended with someone motioning that the bill being introduced on the floor have its title re-read, it was for disaster relief. Like, "Yeah yeah, disease ravaging our country, so many hurricanes we ran out of names, the west is on fire...let me tell you why we should replace Ginsberg right away..."

My guess is McConnell thinks like a Republican not a Democrat.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:50 pm

Kannap wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
And how many of those that answered picked support just to screw with the poll?


I don't know why you're attacking me. I was specifying what the poll actually was/how it was conducted. It was via the app Hornet, and the people who responded weren't chosen to respond, they opted-in/volunteered to respond.

He was adding to your critique, not attacking it. At least that's how I read it.

The DOW is down 640 points-ish...I've lost track, is this a big number? Nevermind, remembered I was attached to the internet. It's headline worthy.

Schumer took his turn to lambast McConnell on rushing a confirmation. The news cut away so I don't know if I got the comedy of another "Sir this is an Arby's" moment afterwards.

Now it's Biden in Manitowoc, WI talking about COVID deaths reaching 200,000 deaths. This should be rousing.
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Postby Celritannia » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:54 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:If you're a C-SPAN type McConnell is justifying his decision to ruuuuuush through a replacement for Ginsberg. It's basically "watcha gonna do about it, pussies?" with some misleading stats.

Also he's pretty convinced that the will of the people is fuckobama.

EDIT: Holy shit, he wasn't even on the floor for something related to Ginsberg. That long ass speech ended with someone motioning that the bill being introduced on the floor have its title re-read, it was for disaster relief. Like, "Yeah yeah, disease ravaging our country, so many hurricanes we ran out of names, the west is on fire...let me tell you why we should replace Ginsberg right away..."

My guess is McConnell thinks like a Republican not a Democrat.


McConnel only care about McConnel. he is a horrible Republican compared to someone like Jeb Bush.

HE likes to make it hard for Americans to get financial support. He is the most slimy and corrupt politician currently in Congress.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:55 pm

Celritannia wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:My guess is McConnell thinks like a Republican not a Democrat.


McConnel only care about McConnel. he is a horrible Republican compared to someone like Jeb Bush.

HE likes to make it hard for Americans to get financial support. He is the most slimy and corrupt politician currently in Congress.


Yes. He's worse than Trump in a way. I really hope he loses but I won't count on it.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:56 pm

Kannap wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
And how many of those that answered picked support just to screw with the poll?


I don't know why you're attacking me. I was specifying what the poll actually was/how it was conducted. It was via the app Hornet, and the people who responded weren't chosen to respond, they opted-in/volunteered to respond.


Wasn’t doing that as CTOAN explained.
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Postby Kannap » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:58 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:If you're a C-SPAN type McConnell is justifying his decision to ruuuuuush through a replacement for Ginsberg. It's basically "watcha gonna do about it, pussies?" with some misleading stats.

Also he's pretty convinced that the will of the people is fuckobama.

EDIT: Holy shit, he wasn't even on the floor for something related to Ginsberg. That long ass speech ended with someone motioning that the bill being introduced on the floor have its title re-read, it was for disaster relief. Like, "Yeah yeah, disease ravaging our country, so many hurricanes we ran out of names, the west is on fire...let me tell you why we should replace Ginsberg right away..."

My guess is McConnell thinks like a Republican not a Democrat.


Thinking like a dementia patient from the sounds of him rambling long-windedly in a speech that's not on the topic of discussion at the time.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:58 pm

Celritannia wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:My guess is McConnell thinks like a Republican not a Democrat.


McConnel only care about McConnel. he is a horrible Republican compared to someone like Jeb Bush.

HE likes to make it hard for Americans to get financial support. He is the most slimy and corrupt politician currently in Congress.

You are all entitled to your views, and there is nothing wrong with Republicans supporting McConell, there is nothing wrong with Republicans supporting McConell.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:59 pm

Celritannia wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:My guess is McConnell thinks like a Republican not a Democrat.


McConnel only care about McConnel. he is a horrible Republican compared to someone like Jeb Bush.

HE likes to make it hard for Americans to get financial support. He is the most slimy and corrupt politician currently in Congress.

I realize that I've long past the point where complaining about GSM spamming this thread is even more spammy, but that was his response? Just...wow.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:00 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
McConnel only care about McConnel. he is a horrible Republican compared to someone like Jeb Bush.

HE likes to make it hard for Americans to get financial support. He is the most slimy and corrupt politician currently in Congress.

I realize that I've long past the point where complaining about GSM spamming this thread is even more spammy, but that was his response? Just...wow.

I think its clear they have stuff on auto reply and no interest in actual debate.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:01 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
McConnel only care about McConnel. he is a horrible Republican compared to someone like Jeb Bush.

HE likes to make it hard for Americans to get financial support. He is the most slimy and corrupt politician currently in Congress.

I realize that I've long past the point where complaining about GSM spamming this thread is even more spammy, but that was his response? Just...wow.


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Postby Celritannia » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:01 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
McConnel only care about McConnel. he is a horrible Republican compared to someone like Jeb Bush.

HE likes to make it hard for Americans to get financial support. He is the most slimy and corrupt politician currently in Congress.

You are all entitled to your views, and there is nothing wrong with Republicans supporting McConell, there is nothing wrong with Republicans supporting McConell.


Again, Republicans like Jeb Bush are good.
Republicans like Mitch McConnel are bad.

If you support someone who wants to make it harder for people, strip them of much needed benefits, which leads to increased urban problems, then to riots; that's up to you.
But you should never follow someone simply because they are in a particular party. It is an individual's actions and merits that should be judged and criticised.
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