2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

[Sundiata]

The GOP would be satisfied with pre-Roe v. Wade abortion laws across the states. They're not going to push beyond that because there would be no way to popularize it.

I disagree, the GOP would generally prefer for abortion to be outlawed totally in the entire United States.

[Northern Davincia]

The GOP would be satisfied with pre-Roe v. Wade abortion laws across the states. They're not going to push beyond that because there would be no way to popularize it.

I disagree, the GOP would generally prefer for abortion to be outlawed totally in the entire United States.

They would prefer that, yes, but they would be satisfied with less because it takes less work. Americans would tolerate the issue going to the states rather than a nationwide ban.

[Liriena]

I think Amy Barrett would be a great replacement, she is a lifelong conservative who will uphold moral values

So she's gonna be objectively shit at her job.

And whose moral values, btw?

[Sundiata]

I disagree, the GOP would generally prefer for abortion to be outlawed totally in the entire United States.

They would prefer that, yes, but they would be satisfied with less because it takes less work. Americans would tolerate the issue going to the states rather than a nationwide ban.

The American left will not tolerate the prohibition of abortion in any state. It's how Americans got Roe v Wade in the first place.

[Picairn]

They would prefer that, yes, but they would be satisfied with less because it takes less work. Americans would tolerate the issue going to the states rather than a nationwide ban.

A nationwide ban is probably unconstitutional.

[Northern Davincia]

I think Amy Barrett would be a great replacement, she is a lifelong conservative who will uphold moral values

So she's gonna be objectively shit at her job.

And whose moral values, btw?

The Vatican's, which profess the best moral values.

In all seriousness she's going to be a bland textualist and nothing more.

They would prefer that, yes, but they would be satisfied with less because it takes less work. Americans would tolerate the issue going to the states rather than a nationwide ban.

The American left will not tolerate the prohibition of abortion in any state. It's how Americans got Roe v Wade in the first place.

The nation is more geographically polarized than it was in the 70s, the red states would be able to fend off what few leftists remain there.

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So she's gonna be objectively shit at her job.

And whose moral values, btw?

The Vatican's, which profess the best moral values.

In all seriousness she's going to be a bland textualist and nothing more.

The American left will not tolerate the prohibition of abortion in any state. It's how Americans got Roe v Wade in the first place.

The nation is more geographically polarized than it was in the 70s, the red states would be able to fend off what few leftists remain there.

As the General Undersecretary to the Commissar of the 4th Southeastern Division of Antifa, I assure you we are more than equipped to invade and liberate Red States.

[Kowani]

The Vatican's, which profess the best moral values.

In all seriousness she's going to be a bland textualist and nothing more.

The nation is more geographically polarized than it was in the 70s, the red states would be able to fend off what few leftists remain there.

As the General Undersecretary to the Commissar of the 4th Southeastern Division of Antifa, I assure you we are more than equipped to invade and liberate Red States.

Cement milkshake production shall be increased from the current level of 0.

[Nuroblav]

So she's gonna be objectively shit at her job.

And whose moral values, btw?

"Anything I like"

The GOP would be satisfied with pre-Roe v. Wade abortion laws across the states. They're not going to push beyond that because there would be no way to popularize it.

I disagree, the GOP would generally prefer for abortion to be outlawed totally in the entire United States.

As far as I know a slight majority of the party are anti-abortion, but as for whether they would wish to make it illegal completely? I doubt that's something GOP would do, even if they didn’t support.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

EDIT: oops, forgot to use the Delete button. See post below.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

The American left will not tolerate the prohibition of abortion in any state. It's how Americans got Roe v Wade in the first place.

The nation is more geographically polarized than it was in the 70s, the red states would be able to fend off what few leftists remain there.

That's polically savvy. You understand that we will come at you with legislation AND amendments to nail the legislation to the floor.

Last resort of the right-wingers who drove the Republicans too far to the right: "we still have one quarter of states, plus one, nyer nyer"

[Eukaryotic Cells]

I don't know what you guys think about election modeling, but FiveThirtyEight released their 2020 Senate model.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/20 ... st/senate/

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Again, this is hysteria.

You don't understand anything about Catholicism, then.

"This is hysteria," says the person currently arguing against the fact that other people have read a book.

One in the bow, one amidships, and one right in the engine room. Sunk!

[Nobel Hobos 2]

No, it could totally be reality.

Most dystopian works are based off of fact. (Like how 1984 was based off of very real censorship and control practices commonplace in the USSR and Nazi Germany)

Except the Handmaid's Tale was based on a cultural sect that hasn't existed on a large scale for centuries. You can't rip out the past and slap it onto the present like that.
Orwell, meanwhile, was inspired by more recent dictatorships of his day. These were more familiar and relevant to the wider context of history.

The GOP would be satisfied with pre-Roe v. Wade abortion laws across the states. They're not going to push beyond that because there would be no way to popularize it.

Oh really? Up until you were challenged, you were giving off a strong vibe of "I have not read the book, but have reasons not to"

I'm not convinced you have read Orwell's 1984 either.

The GOP would be satisfied with pre-Roe v. Wade abortion laws across the states. They're not going to push beyond that because there would be no way to popularize it.

Uh-huh. States could completely ban abortion. Criminal charges for patients and doctors. Criminal charges for women who leave the state to get an abortion (they can only return if they face a criminal charge).

How about the states go and get fucked. Rights are not subject to State law.

[Cannot think of a name]

I don't know what you guys think about election modeling, but FiveThirtyEight released their 2020 Senate model.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/20 ... st/senate/

That should be a nailbitter.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

The GOP would be satisfied with pre-Roe v. Wade abortion laws across the states. They're not going to push beyond that because there would be no way to popularize it.

I disagree, the GOP would generally prefer for abortion to be outlawed totally in the entire United States.

Lame

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I think Amy Barrett would be a great replacement, she is a lifelong conservative who will uphold moral values

So she's gonna be objectively shit at her job.

And whose moral values, btw?

Moral values is basically American for "hate the gays and shit on women's rights."

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Any Democrat who does not unconditionally resist Trump's nominees during an election year should be brutally primaried at the next opportunity.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Any Democrat who does not unconditionally resist Trump's nominees during an election year should be brutally primaried at the next opportunity.

Trump is sure to nominate the worst people.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I used to wonder what it was like living in a country where a large percentage of the population supported an extremist movement, like how in some Middle Eastern countries a quarter of the population supports jihadists.

Don't gotta wonder anymore. I'm living in a country where 40 to 45% of people support a campaign of white supremacy, tyranny, anger, anti science propaganda and violence.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

So she's gonna be objectively shit at her job.

And whose moral values, btw?

Moral values is basically American for "hate the gays and shit on women's rights."

I think it might be worse than that. People who think their personal morality should be law, are capable of making the wrong call on any emergent issue. It's going to be privacy, not abortion (abortion is for most women a pill, it won't be something state governments can restrict because it's interstate commerce). Remember that Roe v. Wade was based on privacy, nearly 50 years ago.

Do old-fashioned "law should be based on the ancient truths of religion" take a stance for, or against, privacy? We just don't know.

The widening gap between rich and poor: you and I both want to pass laws about that. It's possible that today's right-wingers might come to agree with us.

Artificial intelligence. It's scary to just about everyone now. The left seems to re-grouping against it, though I urge them to move towards it. And the right is against it, but in a very vague and disorganized way. The right is against anything it doesn't understand.

And so many things, so many axes we should be aligning on already, instead of re-fighting yesterday's battles. Leftists can gain control if they will just look into the future. Choose between options, in the future. Be a winner by backing a winner, and ride it. Rightists and conservatives can never do that: they're afraid of the future. They hate everything that is modern, and are so afraid of the future they can't think about it. We can beat these idiots, stuck in the present or the past. We can be the future. We ARE the future!

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I used to wonder what it was like living in a country where a large percentage of the population supported an extremist movement, like how in some Middle Eastern countries a quarter of the population supports jihadists.

Don't gotta wonder anymore. I'm living in a country where 40 to 45% of people support a campaign of white supremacy, tyranny, anger, anti science propaganda and violence.

It's even worse. At least people who support terrorists do so because they saw their family get blown to pieces by a drone strike, and they have a reason to listen when terrorists call the invaders devils.

White supremacists haven't lived through devastation and despair, they are just desperate to hold on to their power and privilege.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I used to wonder what it was like living in a country where a large percentage of the population supported an extremist movement, like how in some Middle Eastern countries a quarter of the population supports jihadists.

Don't gotta wonder anymore. I'm living in a country where 40 to 45% of people support a campaign of white supremacy, tyranny, anger, anti science propaganda and violence.

It's even worse. At least people who support terrorists do so because they saw their family get blown to pieces by a drone strike, and they have a reason to listen when terrorists call the invaders devils.

White supremacists haven't lived through devastation and despair, they are just desperate to hold on to their power and privilege.

I mean I would beg to differ on the last part. Alot of these trumpsters are dirt poor and live in some pretty squalid conditions. Not the same as having your family blown up, i know. But far from privileged.

I would feel more sympathy for them if they weren't racist cocksuckers who said "why didn't the president of Puerto Rico do something and stop asking america for help" when Trump went and let thousands of people on the island of my ancestors die following a hurricane.

[Rusozak]

I used to wonder what it was like living in a country where a large percentage of the population supported an extremist movement, like how in some Middle Eastern countries a quarter of the population supports jihadists.

Don't gotta wonder anymore. I'm living in a country where 40 to 45% of people support a campaign of white supremacy, tyranny, anger, anti science propaganda and violence.

It's even worse. At least people who support terrorists do so because they saw their family get blown to pieces by a drone strike, and they have a reason to listen when terrorists call the invaders devils.

White supremacists haven't lived through devastation and despair, they are just desperate to hold on to their power and privilege.

Don't forget the people that think being told to wear a piece of cloth over their face is worse than the Holocaust. Maybe America deserves to fall.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

It's even worse. At least people who support terrorists do so because they saw their family get blown to pieces by a drone strike, and they have a reason to listen when terrorists call the invaders devils.

White supremacists haven't lived through devastation and despair, they are just desperate to hold on to their power and privilege.

Don't forget the people that think being told to wear a piece of cloth over their face is worse than the Holocaust. Maybe America deserves to fall.

Don't fall, my older brother. Please don't fall.