2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

[The Rich Port]

I have some reason to believe that Trump might have nothing to worry about in that he'll win this election.

On someone's chat profile, they've been doing a user survey where people can sent their vote to them saying Biden or Trump and Trump had more points by his name than Biden. It is an indication that perhaps he has more of the Millennial and Gen Z vote locked than expected.

Chat profile, very good source.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Communism is never "real communism" in practice, because it’s such shit ideology that it can never be implemented. Unfortunately there are people who don’t know much about history and still continue to attempt it

Communism: A stateless, classless society where the workers control the means of production.

What country in the world has even been communist in this case?

Amusingly enough these statements fail to understand Marxist thought entirely. Communism isn't something that can simply be achieved just like that, a nation and people needs to go through all the deterministic steps along the way to finally reach it. Hence why the PRC is more or less totally in line with original Marxist thought. China had no capitalist industrial period when the Communist Party took over, so the party needs to guide China through one on the way to socialism and eventually communism.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Communism is never "real communism" in practice, because it’s such shit ideology that it can never be implemented. Unfortunately there are people who don’t know much about history and still continue to attempt it

Communism: A stateless, classless society where the workers control the means of production.

What country in the world has even been communist in this case?

The answer is none, they have all been eternal communist socialist dictatorship nations like Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, Communist Socialist Nicaragua, Russia the Soviet Union, the eastern European soviet satellite nations empire and China. Because the system works great on paper, but not in practice, and not in human nature. The capitalist nations, even the USA under President Trump and the western style democratic multi political party nations with all its faults and merits are a million times better than real communist socialist nations that have never been and cant be for the reasons I have stated above. Trump is no real dictator of any kind.

[Greater Miami Shores]

You must have seen this post of mine many times on different related threads by now, the short version:

Please don't make me have another lol attack, as I keep posting because it fits the post, I used to work with 2 North Koreans, a Vietnamese Lady, a Nicaraguan Lady that lived under the Sandinista Communist Socialists of the time, supported by Bernie Sanders and the Democrats of the time, on our one hour long break we used to talk in English and share stories about our native nations, North korea, Vietnam, Sandinista Communist Socialist Nicaragua and Cuba, and we found out we have a lot in common.

One of the reasons I strongly support the Republicans, President Trump and a conservative US Supreme Court majority.

This has nothing to do with my post.
I am stating the fact that just because north Korea is titled the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, does not mean it is democratic.

It has everything to do with your question, reread my post in full context without taking any part out of context, I gave you the reasons why North Korea and the other so call communist nations are not democratic and real communist socialism does not work and cant work. If you believe North Korea and Cuba are not democratic than we agree.

I prefer the USA under a democratic western style capitalist multi political party system under President Trump or any President, Preferably a Republican President with all its faults and merits.

I think ill go to the RP forums for awhile and post again Mañana, actually later on today on the general forums, Peace over and out, you all stay safe from the virus that kills people, which President Trump is not responsible for, Hasta Mañana, actually today.

[Senkaku]

Communism: A stateless, classless society where the workers control the means of production.

What country in the world has even been communist in this case?

Amusingly enough these statements fail to understand Marxist thought entirely. Communism isn't something that can simply be achieved just like that, a nation and people needs to go through all the deterministic steps along the way to finally reach it. Hence why the PRC is more or less totally in line with original Marxist thought. China had no capitalist industrial period when the Communist Party took over, so the party needs to guide China through one on the way to socialism and eventually communism.

this is a little bit tortured/ahistorical since a lot of Maoism was all about the idea that the peasants could be a revolutionary class too, so I don't think this is exactly a good defense for someone trying to explain how the CCP has actually been totes faithful to socialist ideals lol

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Communism: A stateless, classless society where the workers control the means of production.

What country in the world has even been communist in this case?

The answer is none, they have all been eternal communist socialist dictatorship nations like Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, Communist Socialist Nicaragua, Russia the Soviet Union, the eastern European soviet satellite nations empire and China. Because the system works great on paper, but not in practice, and not in human nature. The capitalist nations, even the USA under President Trump and the western style democratic multi political party nations with all its faults and merits are a million times better than real communist socialist nations that have never been and cant be for the reasons I have stated above. Trump is no real dictator of any kind.

If he was a dictator he's the sort who would skimp the background checks on his palace guard and die after a week in a freak chandelier accident (ie 32 bullet holes).

[Celritannia]

This has nothing to do with my post.
I am stating the fact that just because north Korea is titled the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, does not mean it is democratic.

It has everything to do with your question, reread my post in full context without taking any part out of context, I gave you the reasons why North Korea and the other so call communist nations are not democratic and real communist socialism does not work and cant work. If you believe North Korea and Cuba are not democratic than we agree.

I prefer the USA under a democratic western style capitalist multi political party system under President Trump or any President, Preferably a Republican President with all its faults and merits.

I think ill go to the RP forums for awhile and post again Mañana, actually later on today on the general forums, Peace over and out, you all stay safe from the virus that kills people, which President Trump is not responsible for, Hasta Mañana, actually today.

That's what I was saying, and you only just realised the comment.
I am saying just because North Korea has the title The Democratic People's Republic of Korea, does not make the country democratic.

[Greater Miami Shores]

The answer is none, they have all been eternal communist socialist dictatorship nations like Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, Communist Socialist Nicaragua, Russia the Soviet Union, the eastern European soviet satellite nations empire and China. Because the system works great on paper, but not in practice, and not in human nature. The capitalist nations, even the USA under President Trump and the western style democratic multi political party nations with all its faults and merits are a million times better than real communist socialist nations that have never been and cant be for the reasons I have stated above. Trump is no real dictator of any kind.

If he was a dictator he's the sort who would skimp the background checks on his palace guard and die after a week in a freak chandelier accident (ie 32 bullet holes).

lol good one, hasta mañana, actually today,

[Picairn]

I have some reason to believe that Trump might have nothing to worry about in that he'll win this election.

On someone's chat profile, they've been doing a user survey where people can sent their vote to them saying Biden or Trump and Trump had more points by his name than Biden. It is an indication that perhaps he has more of the Millennial and Gen Z vote locked than expected.

Yeah, and I can poll a random pro-Trump county to show the overwhelming result that Trump is going to win the election in a landslide.

No.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I have some reason to believe that Trump might have nothing to worry about in that he'll win this election.

On someone's chat profile, they've been doing a user survey where people can sent their vote to them saying Biden or Trump and Trump had more points by his name than Biden. It is an indication that perhaps he has more of the Millennial and Gen Z vote locked than expected.

Yeah, and I can poll a random pro-Trump county to show the overwhelming result that Trump is going to win the election in a landslide.

No.

I have returned for a short while and we can poll Biden voters and say Biden landslide, it works both ways.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

I have some reason to believe that Trump might have nothing to worry about in that he'll win this election.

On someone's chat profile,

Let me stop you right there so I can laugh.

[San Lumen]

I have some reason to believe that Trump might have nothing to worry about in that he'll win this election.

On someone's chat profile, they've been doing a user survey where people can sent their vote to them saying Biden or Trump and Trump had more points by his name than Biden. It is an indication that perhaps he has more of the Millennial and Gen Z vote locked than expected.

Online polls mean nothing. If you think they do Governor Andrew Gillum says hello.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I have some reason to believe that Trump might have nothing to worry about in that he'll win this election.

On someone's chat profile, they've been doing a user survey where people can sent their vote to them saying Biden or Trump and Trump had more points by his name than Biden. It is an indication that perhaps he has more of the Millennial and Gen Z vote locked than expected.

Online polls mean nothing. If you think they do Governor Andrew Gillum says hello.

Look who is talking, I have seen you post poll, after poll, after poll.

[San Lumen]

Online polls mean nothing. If you think they do Governor Andrew Gillum says hello.

Look who is talking, I have seen you post poll, after poll, after poll.

What I have posted are scientific polls not garbage online ones like Saiwania is claiming as evidence Trump will win.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Look who is talking, I have seen you post poll, after poll, after poll.

What I have posted are scientific polls not garbage online ones like Saiwania is claiming as evidence Trump will win.

I see, so you get to decide which polls are garbage and which are not garbage, but what a coincidence all the polls you post and declare non garbage agree with your views, here we go again.

[San Lumen]

What I have posted are scientific polls not garbage online ones like Saiwania is claiming as evidence Trump will win.

I see, so you get to decide which polls are garbage and which are not garbage, but what a coincidence all the polls you post and declare non garbage agree with your views, here we go again.

You are ridiculous and impossible to talk to. A scientific poll is not a a bunch of random people in a chat thread. I could poll a small blue town in a red county and say look Biden leads in a landslide or do the reverse for Trump or only poll certain groups and not reflect the demographics of the state.

What Sai is claiming is an representative sample is like me talking to all my friends who will vote for Biden and say Trump will lose in a landslide like Goldwater did in 1964 but you know as well as I do that's not going to happen.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I am going to post this post here and on the now related RBG thread later on today as we are allowed to do under NS rules.

President Trump is allowed under the US constitution the right to name and try to confirm any US Supreme Court Justice he nominates, before the elections, precedents or no precedents, he has the right, duty and obligation to do so under the US constitution. The US constitution has no precedents, of course as a Republican he is going to nominate a conservative Republican justice. Just like a Democrat President would nominate a Liberal Democrat justice. You as a Democrat or Democrat supporter support a liberal Justice, we Republicans and Republican supporters support a conservative justice.

[Cisairse]

The intellectual leader of American liberalism dying the same week that John Oliver told his audience that voting and "co-optable social movements" are not going to bring about real change and that "real discomfort" is needed is a BIG win for my camp

Here's to hoping that RBG was the last SCOTUS justice to die in office

[Borderlands of Rojava]

The intellectual leader of American liberalism dying the same week that John Oliver told his audience that voting and "co-optable social movements" are not going to bring about real change and that "real discomfort" is needed is a BIG win for my camp

Here's to hoping that RBG was the last SCOTUS justice to die in office

So what does John Oliver think we should do if voting and social movements are both not enough? Terror attacks?

[Rusozak]

The intellectual leader of American liberalism dying the same week that John Oliver told his audience that voting and "co-optable social movements" are not going to bring about real change and that "real discomfort" is needed is a BIG win for my camp

Here's to hoping that RBG was the last SCOTUS justice to die in office

So what does John Oliver think we should do if voting and social movements are both not enough? Terror attacks?

Armed revolution?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I have some reason to believe that Trump might have nothing to worry about in that he'll win this election.

On someone's chat profile, they've been doing a user survey where people can sent their vote to them saying Biden or Trump and Trump had more points by his name than Biden. It is an indication that perhaps he has more of the Millennial and Gen Z vote locked than expected.

Ever heard of a representative sample? And more of Trump's voters are old fucks than young. Not surprising since alot of these conservative boomers are snowflakes who can't keep their composure when someone speaks a foreign language nearby or when they see a woman in a hijab or some esses or a black man holding hands with a white girl or two men holding hands with each other or whatever else sets them off. Most of Gen Z and the Millennials hate Trump, and that's because above all else he's a dipshit.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

So what does John Oliver think we should do if voting and social movements are both not enough? Terror attacks?

Armed revolution?

The Provisional IRA: So...Truckbomb?

[Cisairse]

The intellectual leader of American liberalism dying the same week that John Oliver told his audience that voting and "co-optable social movements" are not going to bring about real change and that "real discomfort" is needed is a BIG win for my camp

Here's to hoping that RBG was the last SCOTUS justice to die in office

So what does John Oliver think we should do if voting and social movements are both not enough? Terror attacks?

He specifically endorsed the idea of wildcat strikes, which do indeed have the potential to be quite disruptive.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

So what does John Oliver think we should do if voting and social movements are both not enough? Terror attacks?

He specifically endorsed the idea of wildcat strikes, which do indeed have the potential to be quite disruptive.

What are wildcat strikes?

[The Black Forrest]

He specifically endorsed the idea of wildcat strikes, which do indeed have the potential to be quite disruptive.

What are wildcat strikes?

It’s a union strike without the union leaderships approval.