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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:40 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:Biden is still more socially liberal than I would like, but tolerable enough. Unfortunately many Democrats are more extreme than Biden.


Hell has frozen over when Trump has gone this far.

We Republican Trump supporters have a different take on it, Heaven - The USA is wonderful under President Trump, and I am not lying, according to my conversations with many of them.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:40 pm

New haven america wrote:
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It's almost like you don't comprehend that these "regulations" don't actually work...

Because they're not being enforced as they should at the moment, due to corporations buying out the US gov.

I know you're arguing against socialistic practices, but ironically you're providing many examples about why the US would be better off with more socialism.


Right, cause socialism work so well in China.

East Germany.
N. Korea.
USSR.

ect ect.

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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:40 pm

New haven america wrote:
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That isn't punishment, it's advice.

It's punishment.

You want to punish people for having sex whether you want to admit it or not.


You don't know me, so don't accuse me of such bullshit, cunt.

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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:40 pm

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Since when has abstinence ever worked?


It works for individuals, it just doesn't work on a mass scale because some people don't have enough self-control.

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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:41 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Hell has frozen over when Trump has gone this far.

We Republican Trump supporters have a different take on it, Heaven is wonderful under President Trump, and I am not lying, according to my conversations with many of them.


I think your theology is a little out of whack there, Cubano. :roll:

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Postby Celritannia » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:41 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Hell has frozen over when Trump has gone this far.

We Republican Trump supporters have a different take on it, Heaven is wonderful under President Trump, and I am not lying, according to my conversations with many of them.


So because Trump make America better for people like you, everyone else should suffer?

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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:42 pm

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New haven america wrote:"I want everyone to have affordable healthcare!"

"You monster!"


Yes to universal healthcare. No to state atheism and abortion on demand!


Two things Bernie and his colleagues don't support?
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:42 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:Biden is still more socially liberal than I would like, but tolerable enough. Unfortunately many Democrats are more extreme than Biden.


Hell has frozen over when Trump has gone this far.


If Hell froze over, that would be both good and bad, but I won't go into the details, because this isn't a religion thread.

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Postby Rusozak » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:42 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Hell has frozen over when Trump has gone this far.

We Republican Trump supporters have a different take on it, Heaven is wonderful under President Trump, and I am not lying, according to my conversations with many of them.


Have you just crossed over into full blown deification of that man?
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:42 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
New haven america wrote:Because they're not being enforced as they should at the moment, due to corporations buying out the US gov.

I know you're arguing against socialistic practices, but ironically you're providing many examples about why the US would be better off with more socialism.


Right, cause socialism work so well in China.

East Germany.
N. Korea.
USSR.

ect ect.

That's not socialism though. And yeah, socialist policies are working great in: All of the EU, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc...

Again, keep it up, you're making a great case for why the US should adopt more socialist practices.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:42 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
It's almost like you don't comprehend that people who own the corporate sector, aka those fat rich people, are just going to raise prices across the board to compensate for their own personal loss of income.


If they are so greedy for profit that they make their products more expensive than the market actually supports, nobody would want to buy their product.


Except that regardless of cost, people will still pay for things they need.

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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:43 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I'll repeat, wish I lived in this wild fantasy you all share.

Guess what no fantasy, you strongly disagree with us, and we strongly disagree with you.


Nope, definitely a fantasy. I wish the Democrats were everything you guys fantasize about.

Meanwhile, reality is bleak and the Democrats are disappointing
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:44 pm

New haven america wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Right, cause socialism work so well in China.

East Germany.
N. Korea.
USSR.

ect ect.

That's not socialism though.

And yeah, socialist policies are working great in: All of the EU, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc...


Do you unironically believe that socialism is when the government does stuff and the more it does the more socialist it is lol, cuz good lord this is a politically illiterate take
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:44 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
New haven america wrote:Because they're not being enforced as they should at the moment, due to corporations buying out the US gov.

I know you're arguing against socialistic practices, but ironically you're providing many examples about why the US would be better off with more socialism.


Right, cause socialism work so well in China.

East Germany.
N. Korea.
USSR.

ect ect.

Yet Social Democracy, on the other hand, has worked in plenty of other countries.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:45 pm

New haven america wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Right, cause socialism work so well in China.

East Germany.
N. Korea.
USSR.

ect ect.

That's not socialism though. And yeah, socialist policies are working great in: All of the EU, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc....


Washington Resistance Army wrote:Given the handful of socialist nations that still exist are nothing special and are usually on the lower end of most rankings that doesn't seem true.


Also, you can keep lying all you want, but it isn't going to change the fact that said nations were indeed socialist.

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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:45 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Right, cause socialism work so well in China.

East Germany.
N. Korea.
USSR.

ect ect.

Yet Social Democracy, on the other hand, has worked in plenty of other countries.

Get outta here with those facts, logic, and reasonable policies.
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Postby Celritannia » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:45 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
New haven america wrote:That's not socialism though.

And yeah, socialist policies are working great in: All of the EU, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc...


Do you unironically believe that socialism is when the government does stuff and the more it does the more socialist it is lol, cuz good lord this is a politically illiterate take


A country can have socialist policies and capitalist policies at the same time.

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Postby Picairn » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:46 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Yet Social Democracy, on the other hand, has worked in plenty of other countries.

Ironically, social democracy was invented by a right-wing monarchist. Yet we constantly hear about it being "socialism" on the right.
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Postby Kexholm and Karelia » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:46 pm

New haven america wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Right, cause socialism work so well in China.

East Germany.
N. Korea.
USSR.

ect ect.

That's not socialism though. And yeah, socialist policies are working great in: All of the EU, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc...

Again, keep it up, you're making a great case for why the US should adopt more socialist practices.

You think Canada is socialist?
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:46 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
New haven america wrote:That's not socialism though.

And yeah, socialist policies are working great in: All of the EU, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc...


Do you unironically believe that socialism is when the government does stuff and the more it does the more socialist it is lol, cuz good lord this is a politically illiterate take


Laughably so even.

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New haven america wrote:That's not socialism though. And yeah, socialist policies are working great in: All of the EU, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc...

Again, keep it up, you're making a great case for why the US should adopt more socialist practices.

You think Canada is socialist?


You mean it isn't with all that red and white everywhere?!?!?!?

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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:46 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
New haven america wrote:That's not socialism though. And yeah, socialist policies are working great in: All of the EU, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc....


Washington Resistance Army wrote:Given the handful of socialist nations that still exist are nothing special and are usually on the lower end of most rankings that doesn't seem true.


Also, you can keep lying all you want, but it isn't going to change the fact that said nations were indeed socialist.

No, China's given up the veneer of communism for capitalism, North Korea is Juche, the USSR and East Germany wanted to become socialist but never did.

And again, The EU, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc... would like to have a word with you~
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:47 pm

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:We Republican Trump supporters have a different take on it, Heaven is wonderful under President Trump, and I am not lying, according to my conversations with many of them.


I think your theology is a little out of whack there, Cubano. :roll:

I just edited my post after posting it like I always do, a very bad habit I have. Now it reads correctly, We Republican Trump supporters have a different take on it Heaven - The USA is wonderful under President Trump, and I am not lying, according to my conversations with many of them :) We just strongly disagree Americano, I think, perhaps, :)
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:47 pm

Celritannia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Do you unironically believe that socialism is when the government does stuff and the more it does the more socialist it is lol, cuz good lord this is a politically illiterate take


A country can have socialist policies and capitalist policies at the same time.


In theory yes, but there's no developed nation that currently does so. Safety nets and such things aren't socialist. They were literally invented by right wing German monarchists.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:48 pm

Picairn wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Yet Social Democracy, on the other hand, has worked in plenty of other countries.

Ironically, social democracy was invented by a right-wing monarchist. Yet we constantly hear about it being "socialism" on the right.

Bismarck was totally based.

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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:48 pm

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:
New haven america wrote:That's not socialism though. And yeah, socialist policies are working great in: All of the EU, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc...

Again, keep it up, you're making a great case for why the US should adopt more socialist practices.

You think Canada is socialist?

They're social democrats, which is a belief system that incorporates both capitalist and socialist policies.

But to certain users those might as well be the same thing.
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