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2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:32 pm

New haven america wrote:
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If he became the president, taxes would be through-the-roof, which means more people become homeless.

Yes, I'm sure taxing billionaires more would really affect the income of middle class Americans who don't have those taxes.


It's almost like you don't comprehend that people who own the corporate sector, aka those fat rich people, are just going to raise prices across the board to compensate for their own personal loss of income.

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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:32 pm

New haven america wrote:
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Yes to universal healthcare. No to state atheism and abortion on demand!

Yes to all 3! Just like every other developed nation!


I'm sorry, but if you're not ready financially or maturely for a baby, don't have sex.

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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:32 pm

New haven america wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
Yes to universal healthcare. No to state atheism and abortion on demand!

Yes to all 3! Just like every other developed nation!


You think the PRC and the Soviet Union are better than western European democracy?

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:33 pm

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1. First of all, cut the shit with the retarded pet names. I'm not your soyboi girlfriend so kindly knock it off.

2. Secondly, the NG are not LEO nor are they even remotely trained to the same level. The argument you are putting forth here is literally like saying that they are better suited at wildland firefighting then say professional Cal Fire personel because they took a weekend course (likely death by powerpoint) on the subject. News flash, if anyone I was looking to hire was as little trained as the average guardsmen at their job, I wouldn't hire them.

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2. Then why are they doing better then the police at handling the riots?


They are not.

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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:33 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
New haven america wrote:Yes to all 3! Just like every other developed nation!


You think the PRC and the Soviet Union are better than western European democracy?


Wouldn't surprise me if he did.

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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:33 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
New haven america wrote:Yes, I'm sure taxing billionaires more would really affect the income of middle class Americans who don't have those taxes.


It's almost like you don't comprehend that people who own the corporate sector, aka those fat rich people, are just going to raise prices across the board to compensate for their own personal loss of income.

This is why we have regulations to keep them from pulling asshole moves like that. :)
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:34 pm

Picairn wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:Yes to universal healthcare. No to state atheism and abortion on demand!

State atheism is literally forbidden under the First Amendment.


True, but we know that there are plenty of people in the country who see the constitution as little more than a pesky obstacle to their own ambitions.

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:34 pm

New haven america wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
It's almost like you don't comprehend that people who own the corporate sector, aka those fat rich people, are just going to raise prices across the board to compensate for their own personal loss of income.

This is why we have regulations to keep them from pulling asshole moves like that. :)


It's almost like you don't comprehend that these "regulations" don't actually work...

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Postby Shrillland » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:34 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
New haven america wrote:Yes, I'm sure taxing billionaires more would really affect the income of middle class Americans who don't have those taxes.


It's almost like you don't comprehend that people who own the corporate sector, aka those fat rich people, are just going to raise prices across the board to compensate for their own personal loss of income.


Not likely. Most of the money they get is in capital gains rather than income.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:34 pm

All the pressure that police are dealing with right now makes them more likely to move onto another career, which rises crime, or mess up and kill someone, which puts even more pressure on them.

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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:34 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
New haven america wrote:Yes to all 3! Just like every other developed nation!


You think the PRC and the Soviet Union are better than western European democracy?

All Western European Democracies take those stances.

Even the one's with state religions, who ironically have a higher population of atheists than the secular US.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:35 pm

New haven america wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
You think the PRC and the Soviet Union are better than western European democracy?

All Western European Democracies take those stances.

Even the one's with state religions, who ironically have a higher population of atheists than the secular US.


Proof, please.

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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:35 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
New haven america wrote:Yes to all 3! Just like every other developed nation!


I'm sorry, but if you're not ready financially or maturely for a baby, don't have sex.


There also condoms, contraceptives, and alternative forms of sex.

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:36 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
New haven america wrote:Yes to all 3! Just like every other developed nation!


I'm sorry, but if you're not ready financially or maturely for a baby, don't have sex.

You know what helps reduce unwanted pregnancies and therefore abortions without any of the abstinence absence? Comprehensive sex education and free and easy access to contraceptives. But this isn’t an abortion thread tho.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:36 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
I'm sorry, but if you're not ready financially or maturely for a baby, don't have sex.


There also condoms, contraceptives, and alternative forms of sex.


Not to mention birth control.

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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:36 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
New haven america wrote:This is why we have regulations to keep them from pulling asshole moves like that. :)


It's almost like you don't comprehend that these "regulations" don't actually work...

Because they're not being enforced as they should at the moment, due to corporations buying out the US gov.

I know you're arguing against socialistic practices, but ironically you're providing many examples about why the US would be better off with more socialism.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:37 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
I'm sorry, but if you're not ready financially or maturely for a baby, don't have sex.

You know what helps reduce unwanted pregnancies and therefore abortions without any of the abstinence absence? Comprehensive sex education and free and easy access to contraceptives. But this isn’t an abortion thread tho.


Abortion is a political debate.

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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:38 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
New haven america wrote:Yes to all 3! Just like every other developed nation!


I'm sorry, but if you're not ready financially or maturely for a baby, don't have sex.

Pregnancy as punishment, take a shot everyone!

And we're not even in thee abortion thread.
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Postby Picairn » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:38 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:I'm sorry, but if you're not ready financially or maturely for a baby, don't have sex.

Since when has abstinence ever worked?
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:39 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
New haven america wrote:Yes, I'm sure taxing billionaires more would really affect the income of middle class Americans who don't have those taxes.


It's almost like you don't comprehend that people who own the corporate sector, aka those fat rich people, are just going to raise prices across the board to compensate for their own personal loss of income.


If they are so greedy for profit that they make their products more expensive than the market actually supports, nobody would want to buy their product.

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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:39 pm

New haven america wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
I'm sorry, but if you're not ready financially or maturely for a baby, don't have sex.

Pregnancy as punishment, take a shot everyone!

And we're not even in thee abortion thread.


That isn't punishment, it's advice.

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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:39 pm

Picairn wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:I'm sorry, but if you're not ready financially or maturely for a baby, don't have sex.

Since when has abstinence ever worked?

Never, but Feelings>Facts.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:39 pm

New haven america wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
It's almost like you don't comprehend that these "regulations" don't actually work...

Because they're not being enforced as they should at the moment, due to corporations buying out the US gov.

I know you're arguing against socialistic practices, but ironically you're providing many examples about why the US would be better off with more socialism.


Given the handful of socialist nations that still exist are nothing special and are usually on the lower end of most rankings that doesn't seem true.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:39 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
New haven america wrote:Pregnancy as punishment, take a shot everyone!

And we're not even in thee abortion thread.


That isn't punishment, it's advice.

It's punishment.

You want to punish people for having sex whether you want to admit it or not.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:40 pm

Picairn wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:I'm sorry, but if you're not ready financially or maturely for a baby, don't have sex.

Since when has abstinence ever worked?


Usually it does, but condoms can break if you didn't know.

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