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2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:24 pm

Picairn wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:Biden is still more socially liberal than I would like, but tolerable enough. Unfortunately many Democrats are more extreme than Biden.

If Bernie was the nominee, would you have had a heart attack?


Probably. Man is a psychopath.

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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:24 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:Biden is still more socially liberal than I would like, but tolerable enough. Unfortunately many Democrats are more extreme than Biden.


I wish I lived in this fantasy of yours. In reality, the Dems are utterly disappointing. Their leadership are moderate at best, and their left-most members - Bernie Sanders, AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar - aren't even really radical either and have happily fallen into the party line like the rest of them.

Disappointment all around.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:25 pm

New haven america wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:Biden is still more socially liberal than I would like, but tolerable enough. Unfortunately many Democrats are more extreme than Biden.

lol, the Dems are tame compared to left-wing parties in all other developed nations.


Only in terms of economics and social welfare policy.

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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:25 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:Biden is still more socially liberal than I would like, but tolerable enough. Unfortunately many Democrats are more extreme than Biden.


Hell has frozen over when Trump has gone this far.

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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:25 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Picairn wrote:If Bernie was the nominee, would you have had a heart attack?


Probably. Man is a psychopath.

"I want everyone to have affordable healthcare!"

"You monster!"
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Postby Picairn » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:26 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:Probably. Man is a psychopath.

I would rather choose Bernie over the dysfunctional, evil mess that is Trump, but you do you.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:26 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:Biden is still more socially liberal than I would like, but tolerable enough. Unfortunately many Democrats are more extreme than Biden.

Ill buy $ that to a certain extent, excellent reason to vote for Trump as President and to support a conservative US Supreme Court majority.

Trump is an unprincipled opportunist. Even if he appointed one good Supreme Court justice, that doesn't really outway the serious evil he has done and the way he has violated the constitution and the rule of law.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:27 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
New haven america wrote:So saying cops shouldn't be shooting peaceful protestors eyes out with rubber bullets is controversial to you?


No, but for your information, rubber bullets can only penetrate the skin at close range. But no, it isn't controversial, we just have different views for the title "peaceful protestor".


You're literally not supposed to even fire rubber bullets at people.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:27 pm

New haven america wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Probably. Man is a psychopath.

"I want everyone to have affordable healthcare!"

"You monster!"


If he became the president, taxes would be through-the-roof, which means more people become homeless.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:28 pm

Kannap wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:Biden is still more socially liberal than I would like, but tolerable enough. Unfortunately many Democrats are more extreme than Biden.


I wish I lived in this fantasy of yours. In reality, the Dems are utterly disappointing. Their leadership are moderate at best, and their left-most members - Bernie Sanders, AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar - aren't even really radical either and have happily fallen into the party line like the rest of them.

Disappointment all around.

Ill agree with you on Bernie, but the rest of them, please don't make me have a lol attack.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:28 pm

New haven america wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Indeed they do.

That was actually the event that lead the NG is take a de-escalation first approach to protests and riots.

Way to shoot yourself in the foot deary.


First of all, cut the shit with the retarded pet names. I'm not your soyboi girlfriend so kindly knock it off.

Secondly, the NG are not LEO nor are they even remotely trained to the same level. The argument you are putting forth here is literally like saying that they are better suited at wildland firefighting then say professional Cal Fire personel because they took a weekend course (likely death by powerpoint) on the subject. News flash, if anyone I was looking to hire was as little trained as the average guardsmen at their job, I wouldn't hire them.

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Saint Sche Batose wrote:
No, but for your information, rubber bullets can only penetrate the skin at close range. But no, it isn't controversial, we just have different views for the title "peaceful protestor".


You're literally not supposed to even fire rubber bullets at people.


Indeed. Unless things have changed since my last training session, you are supposed to shoot ahead of the target and "skip" the rounds into them.

However, if the left has taught me anything it's that if you are sadly hit directly with one of these projectiles, then it's best to immediately put a TQ on the afflicted limb and cause more harm then good. :lol:
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Postby Rusozak » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:28 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Picairn wrote:If Bernie was the nominee, would you have had a heart attack?


Probably. Man is a psychopath.


I don't think that word means what you think it means.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:28 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
No, but for your information, rubber bullets can only penetrate the skin at close range. But no, it isn't controversial, we just have different views for the title "peaceful protestor".


You're literally not supposed to even fire rubber bullets at people.


Key word "supposed".

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:28 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
New haven america wrote:"I want everyone to have affordable healthcare!"

"You monster!"


If he became the president, taxes would be through-the-roof, which means more people become homeless.

More taxes for people making more money, I.e. if you’re not making a 6 or 7 figure salary then you’d have very little to worry about.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:29 pm

Psychopathy is a condition characterized by the absence of empathy and the blunting of other affective states. Callousness, detachment and a lack of empathy enable psychopaths to be highly manipulative. Nevertheless, psychopathy is among the most difficult disorders to spot.
AKA Bernie.

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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:29 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I wish I lived in this fantasy of yours. In reality, the Dems are utterly disappointing. Their leadership are moderate at best, and their left-most members - Bernie Sanders, AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar - aren't even really radical either and have happily fallen into the party line like the rest of them.

Disappointment all around.

I agree with you on Bernie, but the rest of them, please don't make me have a lol attack.


I'll repeat, wish I lived in this wild fantasy you all share.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:29 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
New haven america wrote:"I want everyone to have affordable healthcare!"

"You monster!"


If he became the president, taxes would be through-the-roof, which means more people become homeless.

Yes, I'm sure taxing billionaires more would really affect the income of middle class Americans who don't have those taxes.
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Postby Picairn » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:30 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:Psychopathy is a condition characterized by the absence of empathy and the blunting of other affective states. Callousness, detachment and a lack of empathy enable psychopaths to be highly manipulative. Nevertheless, psychopathy is among the most difficult disorders to spot.
AKA Bernie.

You misspelled Trump.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:30 pm

New haven america wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Probably. Man is a psychopath.

"I want everyone to have affordable healthcare!"

"You monster!"


Yes to universal healthcare. No to state atheism and abortion on demand!

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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:31 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
If he became the president, taxes would be through-the-roof, which means more people become homeless.

More taxes for people making more money, I.e. if you’re not making a 6 or 7 figure salary then you’d have very little to worry about.


If. You see, the problem is that not many people have salaries like that, and when taxes rise, they rise for everyone that owns something that has an annual taxing.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:31 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
New haven america wrote:That was actually the event that lead the NG is take a de-escalation first approach to protests and riots.

Way to shoot yourself in the foot deary.


1. First of all, cut the shit with the retarded pet names. I'm not your soyboi girlfriend so kindly knock it off.

2. Secondly, the NG are not LEO nor are they even remotely trained to the same level. The argument you are putting forth here is literally like saying that they are better suited at wildland firefighting then say professional Cal Fire personel because they took a weekend course (likely death by powerpoint) on the subject. News flash, if anyone I was looking to hire was as little trained as the average guardsmen at their job, I wouldn't hire them.

1. :)
2. Then why are they doing better then the police at handling the riots?
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:31 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
New haven america wrote:"I want everyone to have affordable healthcare!"

"You monster!"


Yes to universal healthcare. No to state atheism and abortion on demand!

Yes to all 3! Just like every other developed nation!
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:31 pm

Kannap wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I agree with you on Bernie, but the rest of them, please don't make me have a lol attack.


I'll repeat, wish I lived in this wild fantasy you all share.

Guess what no fantasy, you strongly disagree with us, and we strongly disagree with you.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:31 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
New haven america wrote:"I want everyone to have affordable healthcare!"

"You monster!"


Yes to universal healthcare. No to state atheism and abortion on demand!


Exactly.

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Postby Picairn » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:32 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:Yes to universal healthcare. No to state atheism and abortion on demand!

State atheism is literally forbidden under the First Amendment.
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