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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby Picairn » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:06 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:No, we Republicans supporters of President Trump have a different take on it, President Trump has encouraged police officers to use your words not ours, to put down the violent protests, the burnings, tearing down statues, looting stores and business at times owned by minority businesses, killing innocent persons, killing cops that are innocent, like the 2 LA Cops they tried to kill, and throwing stuff at police officers, many of who support the defund the police movement and the abolish the police movement, not the peaceful demonstrators, the violent demonstrators in mostly Democrat run cities by Democrat mayors, who have refused Trump s help because Trump is a Republican Party President.

The Lafayette Park protests were peaceful, yet Trump drowned it in tear gas and rubber bullets.
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Postby Aureumterra » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:06 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Different people have different values. Not everyone is a leftist


About time someone realized this.

I mean most people know this
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:07 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:No, we Republicans supporters of President Trump have a different take on it, President Trump has encouraged police officers to use your words not ours, to put down the violent protests, the burnings, tearing down statues and monuments, l
ooting stores and business at times owned by minority businesses, killing innocent persons, killing cops that are innocent, like the 2 LA Cops they tried to kill, and throwing stuff at police officers, many of who support the defund the police movement and the abolish the police movement, not the peaceful demonstrators, the violent demonstrators in mostly Democrat run cities by Democrat mayors, who have refused Trump s help because Trump is a Republican Party President.



Careful now, spouting logical arguments like that around these parts is bound to get nothing more then a snide snarky comment in response.


You're not wrong.

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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:07 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
New haven america wrote:The George Floyd Protests where the President has encouraged police officers to attack and put down peaceful protestors in order to terrify them enough to get them to back down.

And a terrorist's main weapon is causing terror, so yeah, the descriptions quite apt.

No, we Republicans supporters of President Trump have a different take on it, President Trump has encouraged police officers to use your words not ours, to put down the violent protests, the burnings, tearing down statues and monuments, l
ooting stores and business at times owned by minority businesses, killing innocent persons, killing cops that are innocent, like the 2 LA Cops they tried to kill, and throwing stuff at police officers, many of who support the defund the police movement and the abolish the police movement, not the peaceful demonstrators, the violent demonstrators in mostly Democrat run cities by Democrat mayors, who have refused Trump s help because Trump is a Republican Party President.

Fun fact: The police's actions are what lead to the riots because thee police don't know how to deescalate volatile situations.

So the riots are the police's fault. :) (And we know this definitively because the National Guard has also gotten involved and they're trained in de-escalation, leading to riots dying down in areas where they are.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:07 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
About time someone realized this.

I mean most people know this


They don't act like it AT ALL though.

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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:08 pm

New haven america wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Different people have different values. Not everyone is a leftist

Or the more likely answer, the majority have yet to figure out that they're living under and fighting for their own oppression.

Yeah, that makes much more sense.


What if I support progressive economics but I don't want to put up with anti-Christian leftist culture wars rubbish?

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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:08 pm

New haven america wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:No, we Republicans supporters of President Trump have a different take on it, President Trump has encouraged police officers to use your words not ours, to put down the violent protests, the burnings, tearing down statues and monuments, l
ooting stores and business at times owned by minority businesses, killing innocent persons, killing cops that are innocent, like the 2 LA Cops they tried to kill, and throwing stuff at police officers, many of who support the defund the police movement and the abolish the police movement, not the peaceful demonstrators, the violent demonstrators in mostly Democrat run cities by Democrat mayors, who have refused Trump s help because Trump is a Republican Party President.

Fun fact: The police's actions are what lead to the riots because thee police don't know how to deescalate volatile situations.

So the riots are the police's fault. :)


Three police vs. dozens of protesters isn't a fair fight. Plus, that's only one protest.

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:08 pm

New haven america wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:No, we Republicans supporters of President Trump have a different take on it, President Trump has encouraged police officers to use your words not ours, to put down the violent protests, the burnings, tearing down statues and monuments, l
ooting stores and business at times owned by minority businesses, killing innocent persons, killing cops that are innocent, like the 2 LA Cops they tried to kill, and throwing stuff at police officers, many of who support the defund the police movement and the abolish the police movement, not the peaceful demonstrators, the violent demonstrators in mostly Democrat run cities by Democrat mayors, who have refused Trump s help because Trump is a Republican Party President.

Fun fact: The police's actions are what lead to the riots because thee police don't know how to deescalate volatile situations.

So the riots are the police's fault. :)


That fact that you and several others actually believe this, makes me absolutely giddy inside.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:09 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:No, we Republicans supporters of President Trump have a different take on it, President Trump has encouraged police officers to use your words not ours, to put down the violent protests, the burnings, tearing down statues and monuments, l
ooting stores and business at times owned by minority businesses, killing innocent persons, killing cops that are innocent, like the 2 LA Cops they tried to kill, and throwing stuff at police officers, many of who support the defund the police movement and the abolish the police movement, not the peaceful demonstrators, the violent demonstrators in mostly Democrat run cities by Democrat mayors, who have refused Trump s help because Trump is a Republican Party President.



Careful now, spouting logical arguments like that around these parts is bound to get nothing more then a snide snarky comment in response.

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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:09 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Does somebody else want to break the news to him?


Oh, shit. What now?


Oh honey, I'm a leftist. My grievance with the Democrats and the reason I openly criticize them is because, from my perspective, they're too conservative - basically a rightwing party.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:09 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
New haven america wrote:Or the more likely answer, the majority have yet to figure out that they're living under and fighting for their own oppression.

Yeah, that makes much more sense.


What if I support progressive economics but I don't want to put up with anti-Christian leftist culture wars rubbish?


There's anti-Christian leftists? I only know about the leftists who use incorrect facts about the bible to try and make people feel bad about their beliefs.

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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:09 pm

New haven america wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
I would be delighted to see your proof of these allegations. :)

The George Floyd Protests where the President has encouraged police officers to attack and put down peaceful protestors in order to terrify them enough to get them to back down.

And a terrorist's main weapon is causing terror, so yeah, the descriptions quite apt.


I am sure the police would have done a better job if they weren't taking orders from such a malicious and incompetent administration.

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Postby Aureumterra » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:09 pm

New haven america wrote:
Purpelia wrote:That's not Maoist or even leftist. It's just plain old authoritarian evil.

How is wanting to get rid of a terrorist organization such The Republican Party currently in control of the US government authoritarian or evil?

Honest question, is this a satire account?
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:10 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
New haven america wrote:Fun fact: The police's actions are what lead to the riots because thee police don't know how to deescalate volatile situations.

So the riots are the police's fault. :)


That fact that you and several others actually believe this, makes me absolutely giddy inside.

I mean, you could at least explain how they’re wrong, if they are in fact wrong.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:10 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
New haven america wrote:The George Floyd Protests where the President has encouraged police officers to attack and put down peaceful protestors in order to terrify them enough to get them to back down.

And a terrorist's main weapon is causing terror, so yeah, the descriptions quite apt.


I am sure the police would have done a better job if they weren't taking orders from such a malicious and incompetent administration.


Have people forgotten 2015?
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:10 pm

Kannap wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Oh, shit. What now?


Oh honey, I'm a leftist. My grievance with the Democrats and the reason I openly criticize them is because, from my perspective, they're too conservative - basically a rightwing party.


You're signature says that you're independent, though.

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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:10 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
New haven america wrote:Fun fact: The police's actions are what lead to the riots because thee police don't know how to deescalate volatile situations.

So the riots are the police's fault. :)


That fact that you and several others actually believe this, makes me absolutely giddy inside.

The fact that you don't believe this just goes to show why most of the US right-wing shouldn't be allowed positions of power.

Fun fact: In places where the national guard get deployed is where riots die down because they're trained in de-escalation, while in areas where police handle things just leads to flare ups because the police aren't trained in de-escalation. Gee, I wonder why that is..?
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:11 pm

Kannap wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Oh, shit. What now?


Oh honey, I'm a leftist. My grievance with the Democrats and the reason I openly criticize them is because, from my perspective, they're too conservative - basically a rightwing party.


The Democratic Party is fine on economics, but they are too far left in cultural terms.

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Postby Picairn » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:11 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:That fact that you and several others actually believe this, makes me absolutely giddy inside.

What is your comment on Trump's suppression of the Lafayette Park protests?
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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:11 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Oh honey, I'm a leftist. My grievance with the Democrats and the reason I openly criticize them is because, from my perspective, they're too conservative - basically a rightwing party.


You're signature says that you're independent, though.


I am, registered independent because neither of the main two parties are far enough to the left for me to be a member.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:12 pm

New haven america wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
That fact that you and several others actually believe this, makes me absolutely giddy inside.

The fact that you don't believe this just goes to show why most of the US right-wing shouldn't be allowed positions of power.

Fun fact: In places where the national guard get deployed is where riots die down because they're trained in de-escalation, while in areas where police handle things just leads to flare ups because the police aren't trained in de-escalation. Gee, I wonder why that is..?


Remember political views are opinions, so don't go thinking that what you just posted is the way to Utopia.

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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:12 pm

Kannap wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
I am sure the police would have done a better job if they weren't taking orders from such a malicious and incompetent administration.


Have people forgotten 2015?


You mean when a bunch of idiots rioted even though we had a competent president and crazy lefties were still attacking the police and defending criminals?

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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:12 pm

Picairn wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:That fact that you and several others actually believe this, makes me absolutely giddy inside.

What is your comment on Trump's suppression of the Lafayette Park protests?


I see, we have a news reporter now.

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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:13 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Have people forgotten 2015?


You mean when a bunch of idiots rioted even though we had a competent president and crazy lefties were still attacking the police and defending criminals?


Competent is a reach.

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:13 pm

New haven america wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
That fact that you and several others actually believe this, makes me absolutely giddy inside.

The fact that you don't believe this just goes to show why most of the US right-wing shouldn't be allowed positions of power.

Fun fact: In places where the national guard get deployed is where riots die down because they're trained in de-escalation, while in areas where police handle things just leads to flare ups because the police aren't trained in de-escalation. Gee, I wonder why that is..?


So let me get this straight...

You actually think the National Guard is trained to a higher degree then ANY level of law enforcement?

Like... have you even talked to a guardsmen before bro? The only thing Nasty Girls are competent in is forgetting to wear covers when outside and keeping their hands inside their pockets at all times.

And getting absolutely smashed on drill weekends.
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