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2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby Purpelia » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:48 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:If it works it’s not stupid.

Besides at that point I’d use the law where I was able to lock up the republicans as terrorists to go after those who disagreed with the courts opinion

Is your authoritarianism that of using your position of power to actually help people and be a benevolent and just ruler or is it just power for the sake of power and oppressing people just because you can? Cuz I can’t tell anymore.

There is no such thing as a benevolent absolute ruler. In order to acquire, hold and maintain absolute power as well as be able to do anything major with it you have to do some rather nasty things. That's just how it goes.
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Postby Talvezout » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:48 pm

Hot take: The passing of Ginsburg will motivate Dems more then Republicans.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:49 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Purpelia wrote:The you was plural. As in you lot americans.


You can't be plural, nerd.


Except it is, that's first grade English

The personal pronoun you is the second-person personal pronoun, both singular and plural
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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:50 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Biden says he isn't though.

I guess its a matter of (1) truthfulness or (2) if Harris and Schumer can sway him


OMG yes! Kannap you're back.


I'm not that exciting, calm down.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:50 pm

Kannap wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
You can't be plural, nerd.


Except it is, that's first grade English

The personal pronoun you is the second-person personal pronoun, both singular and plural


They didn't teach me that. They said it was singular and you had to use an adjective to broaden the "you".

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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:51 pm

Kannap wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
OMG yes! Kannap you're back.


I'm not that exciting, calm down.


Well, you're a lot easier to talk to than leftists.

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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:51 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Biden says he isn't though.

I guess its a matter of (1) truthfulness or (2) if Harris and Schumer can sway him

Harris and Schumer most definitely will sway him


That's my fear too
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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:52 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I mean I'm on neither side so...

You are not on either side, but you criticize and put down Trump and me all the time, so I think you are at least technically, but not officially on the Democrats side.


Trump is well deserving of the criticism.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:52 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I am allowed under NS rules to ask the question again. Have you ever considered the Democrats the same way you consider the Republicans?


I don't understand why it would be unlawful to repeat a question haha.

Let me splain, I Love Lucy :) on NS where persons report you for anything they can think of to hurt their fellow nations, you have to be as careful as possible, so you post this just in case, and they might not report you for it, unnecessarily of course.

This is why I post I am allowed to share my Republican Trump rallies with all my fellow nations, and those who care, which I am, just in case, like the broken record I am :) and you don't have to go through all the bother, waiting and worrying.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:53 pm

Purpelia wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Is your authoritarianism that of using your position of power to actually help people and be a benevolent and just ruler or is it just power for the sake of power and oppressing people just because you can? Cuz I can’t tell anymore.

There is no such thing as a benevolent absolute ruler. In order to acquire, hold and maintain absolute power as well as be able to do anything major with it you have to do some rather nasty things. That's just how it goes.

I mean, there’s quite a bit of difference between doing nasty things because you have to do them and doing nasty things just because you want to do them and take pleasure in it. The latter tends to be common in many authoritarian regimes, which is why I hate authoritarianism.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:53 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
New haven america wrote:How is wanting to get rid of a terrorist organization such The Republican Party currently in control of the US government authoritarian or evil?

Keep in mind that the US' quickest periods of growth happened when Reps weren't in charge.


Keep in mind that they aren't terrorists and you won't be able to get rid of them.

Yes the ones in government are.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:54 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
I don't understand why it would be unlawful to repeat a question haha.

Let me splain, I Love Lucy :) on NS where persons report you for anything they can think of to hurt their fellow nations, you have to be as careful as possible, so you post this just in case, and they might not report you for it, unnecessarily of course.


Who's I Love Lucy?

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Saint Sche Batose
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:54 pm

New haven america wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Keep in mind that they aren't terrorists and you won't be able to get rid of them.

Yes they are.


I would be delighted to see your proof of these allegations. :)

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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:57 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
New haven america wrote:Yes they are.


I would be delighted to see your proof of these allegations. :)

The George Floyd Protests where the President has encouraged police officers to attack and put down peaceful protestors in order to terrify them enough to get them to back down.

And a terrorist's main weapon is causing terror, so yeah, the descriptions quite apt.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:59 pm

New haven america wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
I would be delighted to see your proof of these allegations. :)

The George Floyd Protests where the President has encouraged police officers to attack and put down peaceful protestors in order to terrify them enough to get them to back down.

And a terrorist's main weapon is causing terror, so yeah, the descriptions quite apt.


Peaceful protestors or rioters ruining the potential and reputation of peaceful protesting?

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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:00 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Except it is, that's first grade English

The personal pronoun you is the second-person personal pronoun, both singular and plural


They didn't teach me that. They said it was singular and you had to use an adjective to broaden the "you".


"you" is the second person personal pronoun, both singular and plural, formally. Anything else: "you guys", "y'all", "yous(e) guys" are informal/slang versions of the plural.

Anyway, me teaching English isn't the subject of the thread, so let's move along.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:00 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I'm not that exciting, calm down.


Well, you're a lot easier to talk to than leftists.


Does somebody else want to break the news to him?
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:01 pm

The new definition of Xenophobia: The fear of Facehuggers, Chestbursters, Neomorphs, Predaliens, Protomorphs, Xenomorphs, ETC.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:02 pm

Kannap wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Well, you're a lot easier to talk to than leftists.


Does somebody else want to break the news to him?


Oh, shit. What now?

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:04 pm

New haven america wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
I would be delighted to see your proof of these allegations. :)

The George Floyd Protests where the President has encouraged police officers to attack and put down peaceful protestors in order to terrify them enough to get them to back down.

And a terrorist's main weapon is causing terror, so yeah, the descriptions quite apt.

No, we Republicans supporters of President Trump have a different take on it, President Trump has encouraged police officers to use your words not ours, to put down the violent protests, the burnings, tearing down statues and monuments, looting stores and businesses at times owned by minority businesses, killing innocent persons, killing cops that are innocent, like the 2 LA Cops they tried to kill, and throwing stuff at police officers, many of who support the defund the police movement and the abolish the police movement, not the peaceful demonstrators, the violent demonstrators in mostly Democrat run cities by Democrat mayors, who have refused Trump s help because Trump is a Republican Party President.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:05 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:The new definition of Xenophobia: The fear of Facehuggers, Chestbursters, Neomorphs, Predaliens, Protomorphs, Xenomorphs, ETC.

Just for this, you can come off the ignore list.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:05 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
New haven america wrote:The George Floyd Protests where the President has encouraged police officers to attack and put down peaceful protestors in order to terrify them enough to get them to back down.

And a terrorist's main weapon is causing terror, so yeah, the descriptions quite apt.

No, we Republicans supporters of President Trump have a different take on it, President Trump has encouraged police officers to use your words not ours, to put down the violent protests, the burnings, tearing down statues, looting stores and business at times owned by minority businesses, killing innocent persons, killing cops that are innocent, like the 2 LA Cops they tried to kill, and throwing stuff at police officers, many of who support the defund the police movement and the abolish the police movement, not the peaceful demonstrators, the violent demonstrators in mostly Democrat run cities by Democrat mayors, who have refused Trump s help because Trump is a Republican Party President.


Thank you. Couldn't have put it better.

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Saint Sche Batose
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:06 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:The new definition of Xenophobia: The fear of Facehuggers, Chestbursters, Neomorphs, Predaliens, Protomorphs, Xenomorphs, ETC.

Just for this, you can come off the ignore list.


I only know that shit from Dead Meat but okay. I'll take that. :)

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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:06 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
New haven america wrote:The George Floyd Protests where the President has encouraged police officers to attack and put down peaceful protestors in order to terrify them enough to get them to back down.

And a terrorist's main weapon is causing terror, so yeah, the descriptions quite apt.


Peaceful protestors or rioters ruining the potential and reputation of peaceful protesting?


A lot of the "riots" were started by police showing up and brutally trying to disperse peaceful protests.

That's the problem in America, in a lot of places you have to get a permit to protest. So police will show up and declare the protest unlawful assembly and if you don't leave, they'll engage in violence to force you to disperse. Riots, ignoring the looting and stuff that happens as people - usually outsiders - take advantage of the chaos, are when people defend themselves from the police attacking them.

The problem, of course, with having to obtain a permit to protest is that the 1st amendment guarantees the right to protest. If somebody wants to protest the government, specifically the law enforcement arm of the government in these cases, they should not have to get a permit to protest and that barrier is a violation of their 1st Amendment rights. Furthermore, any enforcement of that barrier is a violation of their 1st Amendment rights.

My advice? The left needs to arm up as much as the right arms up. You didn't see police violently dispersing anti-mask protesters, and I'd bet money its because a lot of them were visibly armed.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:06 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
New haven america wrote:The George Floyd Protests where the President has encouraged police officers to attack and put down peaceful protestors in order to terrify them enough to get them to back down.

And a terrorist's main weapon is causing terror, so yeah, the descriptions quite apt.

No, we Republicans supporters of President Trump have a different take on it, President Trump has encouraged police officers to use your words not ours, to put down the violent protests, the burnings, tearing down statues and monuments, l
ooting stores and business at times owned by minority businesses, killing innocent persons, killing cops that are innocent, like the 2 LA Cops they tried to kill, and throwing stuff at police officers, many of who support the defund the police movement and the abolish the police movement, not the peaceful demonstrators, the violent demonstrators in mostly Democrat run cities by Democrat mayors, who have refused Trump s help because Trump is a Republican Party President.



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