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2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Heloin
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Heloin » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:46 pm

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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:46 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:The number of supreme court justices was fixed at nine by federal law. You'd have to get congress to actually pass a law changing it in order to pack the courts.

Democrats will probably do just that. Harris is for court packing.

Biden said he's against it though because then the Reps would take advantage of it as soon as they got the chance.

Though, tbh, he could make it so that he gets more judges during his term and when it comes to a close he could decide Kavanaugh and whoever else Trump rams into the seat as unconstitutional or something and remove them then shrink the size back down to 9. Only question is how big of a civil war do you think that'd cause?
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Saint Sche Batose
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:47 pm

Liriena wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Ah, I see. It would also worsen the left side's reputation to some common rioters.

Now this is conservative comedy.


Are you talking about our comedy or your comedy about us.

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New haven america
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:47 pm

Liriena wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Ah, I see. It would also worsen the left side's reputation to some common rioters.

Now this is conservative comedy.

That's an oxymoron.
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Rusozak
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Rusozak » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:47 pm

Kannap wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
Have any?


33 states have laws requiring electors to vote for their pledged candidate. Only 14 of these states have mechanics in place to void and replace faithless electors - five states (two belonging to the aforementioned 14) have fines or jail time as penalties, though three of those don't have a mechanic to void the vote, it gets counted

So essentially faithless electors are banned in 14 states.


Any of them swing states?
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Major-Tom
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Major-Tom » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:47 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Smooth brain or hard brain?

I don't like the wrinkles in my brain. They make me sad. I'm gonna smooth them out, join QAnon and burn a 5G tower.


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Postby Liriena » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:47 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Kexholm and Karelia wrote:But he won’t, and I agree with him because ensuring a conservative court would do much more to fight far left socialism and communism in the long term

Putting a conservative on the court isn’t going to stop either of those. Actually it’s probably more likely to cause people to turn towards violence and revolution

I like the implicit authoritarianism of Kexholm and Karelia's thinking there. He seems to think SCOTUS' job is repressing entire political movements.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:48 pm

Liriena wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Putting a conservative on the court isn’t going to stop either of those. Actually it’s probably more likely to cause people to turn towards violence and revolution

I like the implicit authoritarianism of Kexholm and Karelia's thinking there. He seems to think SCOTUS' job is repressing entire political movements.


Seems to think or does think?

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Bienenhalde
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:48 pm

New haven america wrote:Fun fact: Amy Barrett's (One of Trump's top picks) sect of Christianity is what inspired Margaret Atwood to write The Handmaid's Tale.


You mean the Roman Catholic Church? :eyebrow: Anyway, hardly anyone in the real world believes anything close to the dystopia described in The Handmaid's Tale. It looks pretty much like an outrageous straw man to me.
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Major-Tom » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:48 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Liriena wrote:I like the implicit authoritarianism of Kexholm and Karelia's thinking there. He seems to think SCOTUS' job is repressing entire political movements.


Seems to think or does think?


Yes.
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New haven america
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:48 pm

Liriena wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Putting a conservative on the court isn’t going to stop either of those. Actually it’s probably more likely to cause people to turn towards violence and revolution

I like the implicit authoritarianism of Kexholm and Karelia's thinking there. He seems to think SCOTUS' job is repressing entire political movements.

Well how else are you supposed to keep the people in check?

Actually care for their wants and needs? Bullshit!
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Postby Liriena » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:49 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Liriena wrote:I don't like the wrinkles in my brain. They make me sad. I'm gonna smooth them out, join QAnon and burn a 5G tower.


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Also a benefit of smooth brain: looks like two raw chicken breasts. Must be yummy if you bread them and fry them. :3
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:49 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Liriena wrote:What's the "hypocrisy" here?


He shrugged about being rude to someone opening up about their beliefs when that's what his kind love to complain about.

I’m not in the business of looking good to your political wing, so you’re preaching to the void. I’m also not the topic of this thread.
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Postby Rusozak » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:49 pm

Liriena wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
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Also a benefit of smooth brain: looks like two raw chicken breasts. Must be yummy if you bread them and fry them. :3


Easy there Doctor Lecter.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:49 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Seems to think or does think?


Yes.


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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:50 pm

Post War America wrote:
San Lumen wrote:how?


It is an un-elected body composed of people that serve for life with a mandate that effectively allows them to overturn the will of the people on the grounds that it interferes with their own personal interpretation of the constitution. It is the pinnacle of unjustified authority.

Or if you'd prefer there is the angle that they can't actually enforce any of their mandates meaning that they are toothless body that cannot justify its existence.

God I love President Jackson.

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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:50 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
He shrugged about being rude to someone opening up about their beliefs when that's what his kind love to complain about.

I’m not in the business of looking good to your political wing, so you’re preaching to the void. I’m also not the topic of this thread.


No but he wanted proof so I gave it him. You're welcome.

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Postby Major-Tom » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:50 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
New haven america wrote:Fun fact: Amy Barrett's (One of Trump's top picks) sect of Christianity is what inspired Margaret Atwood to write The Handmaid's Tale.


You mean the Roman Catholic Church? :eyebrow: Anyway, hardly anyone in the real world believes anything close to the dystopia described in The Handmaid's Tale. It looks pretty much like an outrageous straw man to me.


This specific sect, apparently, but I know so little about it that I think outright comparing her to the Handmaid's Tale is a bridge too far.

Edit: Oh, I'm reading about it, never mind, these people are kinda batshit.
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:51 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Heloin wrote:I think Kex is under the impression that the Democratic Party is the IRA.


Man I'd become the staunchest Democrat possible if they became Provos :lol:


Unlike Trump, King William was a good Orange Man. :^)
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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:51 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
New haven america wrote:Fun fact: Amy Barrett's (One of Trump's top picks) sect of Christianity is what inspired Margaret Atwood to write The Handmaid's Tale.


1. You mean the Roman Catholic Church? :eyebrow: 2. Anyway, hardly anyone in the real world believes anything close to the dystopia described in The Handmaid's Tale. It looks pretty much like an outrageous straw man to me.

1. Amy's part of a more extreme and almost cultish part of Catholicism, though they do accept some Protestants.
2. Yes, those who are most for or ok with dystopia's always say this before a dystopia happens.
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:51 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Kexholm and Karelia wrote:It’s been well documented since modern leftism has existed, you don’t need more


Where is it documented?

Honestly, I don't know what the heck you guys are discussing, arguing about and disagreeing about, as you guys should since you both have different, opinions, economic, political and social views, as Democrat supporters and Republican supporters. I have only seen and read this post, because these threads move so fast. I don't know about documented hypocrisy or not.

I am on record as saying both Republican and Democrat Politicians are hypocrites too, neither are political saints.

But I think, Democrats Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Chuck Schumer, Cory Booker and many other Democrats are hypocrites too.

The way they tried to destroy Judge Kavanaugh's reputation and career as a highly qualified US Supreme Court Justice. The way they tried to destroy President Trump Politically with the impeachment scam, hoax, the way they blame President Trump for the violence in Democrat run cities by Democrat mayors, who have refused help from President Trump because Trump is a Republican President. Democrats Biden and Harris blame President Trump. S L said a certain Republican Politician should resign for his hypocrisy, by that standard I think all these biased Democrats should resign for their political hypocrisies, and not just for these political hypocrisies but for many other political hypocrisies as well.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:52 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Man I'd become the staunchest Democrat possible if they became Provos :lol:


Unlike Trump, King William was a good Orange Man. :^)


"Good" and "bad" are subjective.

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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:52 pm

Liriena wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Putting a conservative on the court isn’t going to stop either of those. Actually it’s probably more likely to cause people to turn towards violence and revolution

I like the implicit authoritarianism of Kexholm and Karelia's thinking there. He seems to think SCOTUS' job is repressing entire political movements.

Especially entire political movements that have significantly less power and influence than he thinks they actually do.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:53 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Where is it documented?

Honestly, I don't know what the heck you guys are discussing, arguing about and disagreeing about, as you guys should since you both have different, opinions, economic, political and social views, as Democrat supporters and Republican supporters. I have only seen and read this post, because these threads move so fast. I don't know about documented hypocrisy or not.

I am on record as saying both Republican and Democrat Politicians are hypocrites too, neither are political saints.

But I think, Democrats Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Chuck Schumer, Cory Booker and many other Democrats are hypocrites too.

The way they tried to destroy Judge Kavanaugh's reputation and career as highly qualified US Supreme Court Justice. The way they tried to destroy President Trump Politically with the impeachment scam, hoax, the way they blame President Trump for the violence in Democrat run cities by Democrat mayors, who have refused help from President Trump because Trump is a Republican President. S L said a certain Republican Politician should resign for his hypocrisy, by that standard I think all these biased Democrats should resign for their political hypocrisies, and not just for these political hypocrisies but for many other political hypocrisies as well.


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Bienenhalde
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:54 pm

New haven america wrote:
Liriena wrote:I like the implicit authoritarianism of Kexholm and Karelia's thinking there. He seems to think SCOTUS' job is repressing entire political movements.

Well how else are you supposed to keep the people in check?

Actually care for their wants and needs? Bullshit!


What if people actually want conservative policies?
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