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Kannap wrote:

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:I imagine he probably does.

If he gets another justice appointment and secures a safe conservative majority for the next 20-30 years? I doubt he'll care about losing a Senate that Republicans will just win back in two or four years.

neither the 2022 nor 2024 map favors Republicans

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:

San Lumen wrote:
Yeah because why be consistent better to be a hypocrite

Better be a hypocrite than let a far leftist on the court, which Biden might do to appease Sanders and his supporters

Being a hypocrite isn't something you should be proud of.

Kannap wrote:

San Lumen wrote:If they ram someone through we absolutely should

My "every citizen a Supreme Court justice" proposal still stands. Go big or go home.

Send that proposal to Inslee, please.

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:

San Lumen wrote:
Yeah because why be consistent better to be a hypocrite

Better be a hypocrite than let a far leftist on the court, which Biden might do to appease Sanders and his supporters

Biden? Doing anything to appease Sanders and leftist voters? I wish your fantasy was reality. Biden would give us a lukewarm centrist at best.

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:

San Lumen wrote:
Yeah because why be consistent better to be a hypocrite

Better be a hypocrite than let a far leftist on the court, which Biden might do to appease Sanders and his supporters

Being a hypocrite isn't something you should be proud of.[/quote]

No one said it was.

Shrillland wrote:

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:Even if he loses the senate, there being another conservative on the court will have secured the court for the next few decades

Unless we pack it with four justices come next year.

Not happening

San Lumen wrote:

Kannap wrote:
If he gets another justice appointment and secures a safe conservative majority for the next 20-30 years? I doubt he'll care about losing a Senate that Republicans will just win back in two or four years.

neither the 2022 nor 2024 map favors Republicans

Irrelevant. McConnell is seeking to achieve a long term win that will exceed well past his lifetime. He doesn't care if Republicans lose the Senate in the short term.

Shrillland wrote:

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:Even if he loses the senate, there being another conservative on the court will have secured the court for the next few decades

Unless we pack it with four justices come next year.

Biden is on record saying he is against packing the US Supreme Court with Democrats, because then when it is the Republicans turn they do it to us. But if he wins the election he could change his mind. Which Democrats and Democrat supporters wish Biden to win the election, and Republicans and Republican supporters wish President Trump to win the election.

Kannap wrote:

San Lumen wrote:neither the 2022 nor 2024 map favors Republicans

Irrelevant. McConnell is seeking to achieve a long term win that will exceed well past his lifetime. He doesn't care if Republicans lose the Senate in the short term.

Screw Him. He should resign from the Senate for his utter hypocrisy or his staff should refuse to work.

I feel like liberals in Washington (the state) have forgotten that political views are opinions, not facts.

San Lumen wrote:

Kannap wrote:
Irrelevant. McConnell is seeking to achieve a long term win that will exceed well past his lifetime. He doesn't care if Republicans lose the Senate in the short term.

Screw Him. He should resign from the Senate for his utter hypocrisy or his staff should refuse to work.

His staff presumably agree with him.

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

Shrillland wrote:
Unless we pack it with four justices come next year.

Biden is on record as saying he is against packing the US Supreme Court with Democrats, because then when it is the Republicans turn they do it to us. But if he wins the election he could change his mind. Which Democrats and Democrat supporters wish Biden to win the election, and Republicans and Republican supporters wish President Trump to win the election.

Yes, it will be the Republicans turn to pack the court, and then the voters will realise what a mess this all is and demand a constitutional amendment for structural court reform that both sides will readily agree to to deny given the other too much power including hard limits on how many justices there are, term limits, and mandatory retirement ages.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

San Lumen wrote:
Screw Him. He should resign from the Senate for his utter hypocrisy or his staff should refuse to work.

His staff presumably agree with him.

They are hypocrites too.

Greater Miami Shores wrote:

Shrillland wrote:
Unless we pack it with four justices come next year.

Biden is on record as saying he is against packing the US Supreme Court with Democrats, because then when it is the Republicans turn they do it to us. But if he wins the election he could change his mind.

Biden would probably appoint someone you'd be fine with all things considered. Someone dead of centre politically.

Which Democrats and Democrat supporters wish Biden to win the election, and Republicans and Republican supporters wish President Trump to win the election.

You've worked out what an election is. Good Job.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

San Lumen wrote:
Screw Him. He should resign from the Senate for his utter hypocrisy or his staff should refuse to work.

His staff presumably agree with him.

That's why they work for him.

San Lumen wrote:

Kannap wrote:
Irrelevant. McConnell is seeking to achieve a long term win that will exceed well past his lifetime. He doesn't care if Republicans lose the Senate in the short term.

Screw Him. He should resign from the Senate for his utter hypocrisy or his staff should refuse to work.

Neither of which is going to happen. Have you read his statements? He's explained clearly what his view is and why he made his decision in 2016 and why he's making his decision now. While I may not agree with what he believes, he's got this logically figured out and by what he's said - in 2016 and 2020 - he doesn't appear to be hypocritical.

Then again, if he is - are you surprised?

San Lumen wrote:

Kannap wrote:
Irrelevant. McConnell is seeking to achieve a long term win that will exceed well past his lifetime. He doesn't care if Republicans lose the Senate in the short term.

Screw Him. He should resign from the Senate for his utter hypocrisy or his staff should refuse to work.

But he won’t, and I agree with him because ensuring a conservative court would do much more to fight far left socialism and communism in the long term

Saint Sche Batose wrote:I feel like liberals in Washington (the state) have forgotten that political views are opinions, not facts.

Eh?

Shrillland wrote:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:Biden is on record as saying he is against packing the US Supreme Court with Democrats, because then when it is the Republicans turn they do it to us. But if he wins the election he could change his mind. Which Democrats and Democrat supporters wish Biden to win the election, and Republicans and Republican supporters wish President Trump to win the election.

Yes, it will be the Republicans turn to pack the court, and then the voters will realise what a mess this all is and demand a constitutional amendment for structural court reform that both sides will readily agree to to deny given the other too much power including hard limits on how many justices there are, term limits, and mandatory retirement ages.

Id be ok with that. It needs reform

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

San Lumen wrote:
Screw Him. He should resign from the Senate for his utter hypocrisy or his staff should refuse to work.

His staff presumably agree with him.

And if they don't, they can quit or get fired when they refuse to work.

Kannap wrote:

San Lumen wrote:
Screw Him. He should resign from the Senate for his utter hypocrisy or his staff should refuse to work.

Neither of which is going to happen. Have you read his statements? He's explained clearly what his view is and why he made his decision in 2016 and why he's making his decision now. While I may not agree with what he believes, he's got this logically figured out and by what he's said - in 2016 and 2020 - he doesn't appear to be hypocritical.

Then again, if he is - are you surprised?

Which android is on your flag?

Kannap wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
His staff presumably agree with him.

And if they don't, they can quit or get fired when they refuse to work.

and he'd have no staff.

Kannap wrote:

Saint Sche Batose wrote:I feel like liberals in Washington (the state) have forgotten that political views are opinions, not facts.

Eh?

Do you live in Washington?

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:

San Lumen wrote:
Screw Him. He should resign from the Senate for his utter hypocrisy or his staff should refuse to work.

But he won’t, and I agree with him because ensuring a conservative court would do much more to fight far left socialism and communism in the long term

Sounds like you want a court to fight ghosts and shadows.

Heloin wrote:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:Biden is on record as saying he is against packing the US Supreme Court with Democrats, because then when it is the Republicans turn they do it to us. But if he wins the election he could change his mind.

Biden would probably appoint someone you'd be fine with all things considered. Someone dead of centre politically.

Which Democrats and Democrat supporters wish Biden to win the election, and Republicans and Republican supporters wish President Trump to win the election.

You've worked out what an election is. Good Job.

He's almost there, not quite as black-and-white, since some Democrats vote for Republicans and some Republicans vote for Democrats. Not straight ticket, usually, but certain offices depending on context.

Trump's now saying his nominee will most likely be a woman and be announced next week: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/09/19/us/live-rbg-death-supreme-court/trump-says-he-expects-to-nominate-a-replacement-for-ginsburg-most-likely-a-woman-next-week

All who bet on Amy Barrett may come up and receive their winnings.