2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

[Greater Miami Shores]

I support Judge Amy Coney Barrett for US Supreme Court Justice, an important larger part of his base and to add to his base. I hope President Trump does not pick my fellow Cuban American Hispanic, Barbara Lagoa, since President Trump has the majority of the Cuban American vote, and she is only popular in the Cuban American community. But both candidates are highly qualified conservative US Supreme Court Justice candidates and we will be supportive of either one.

But it might be Cuban American Hispanic, Barbara Lagoa.

[Cisairse]

No, it could totally be reality.

Most dystopian works are based off of fact. (Like how 1984 was based off of very real censorship and control practices commonplace in the USSR and Nazi Germany)

Except the Handmaid's Tale was based on a cultural sect that hasn't existed on a large scale for centuries. You can't rip out the past and slap it onto the present like that.
Orwell, meanwhile, was inspired by more recent dictatorships of his day. These were more familiar and relevant to the wider context of history.

The GOP would be satisfied with pre-Roe v. Wade abortion laws across the states. They're not going to push beyond that because there would be no way to popularize it.

"The reactionaries will stop reacting when the thing they're currently reacting to is no longer relevant" seems like an exceptionally bad argument to make in defense of reactionaries.

[Cisairse]

I found this to be a good read from the Atlantic.

Tl;dr: no matter who wins in November a very large group of people are going to believe it's illegitimate and American democracy could potentially be facing its biggest challenge yet.

The good news is if Biden wins nobody is happy which means we might actually see mass action instead of just a poorly thought out attempted coup

[Greater Miami Shores]

I hope President Trump names his US Supreme Court Justice Pick today or tomorrow Tuesday.

[Islands of Great Britain]

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-applauds-poll-showing-45-percent-support-among-gay-men-n1240633

Trump has touted a bogus poll that shows him getting 45 percent support among gay men. Highly doubtful when the LGBT community voted for Democrats 82-17 in 2018. Clinton got 78 percent in 2016.

Well, for one thing, my parents don't vote. And for another thing, I am a trump supporter myself.

[Islands of Great Britain]

I hope President Trump names his US Supreme Court Justice Pick today or tomorrow Tuesday.

Looks like we have a Trump Supporter here! Me too.

[Cannot think of a name]

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-applauds-poll-showing-45-percent-support-among-gay-men-n1240633

Trump has touted a bogus poll that shows him getting 45 percent support among gay men. Highly doubtful when the LGBT community voted for Democrats 82-17 in 2018. Clinton got 78 percent in 2016.

Well, for one thing, my parents don't vote. And for another thing, I am a trump supporter myself.

What does any of that have to do with what they said?

[San Lumen]

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-applauds-poll-showing-45-percent-support-among-gay-men-n1240633

Trump has touted a bogus poll that shows him getting 45 percent support among gay men. Highly doubtful when the LGBT community voted for Democrats 82-17 in 2018. Clinton got 78 percent in 2016.

Well, for one thing, my parents don't vote. And for another thing, I am a trump supporter myself.

How is this relevant to what I said?

[The Black Forrest]

No, it could totally be reality.

Most dystopian works are based off of fact. (Like how 1984 was based off of very real censorship and control practices commonplace in the USSR and Nazi Germany)

Except the Handmaid's Tale was based on a cultural sect that hasn't existed on a large scale for centuries. You can't rip out the past and slap it onto the present like that.
Orwell, meanwhile, was inspired by more recent dictatorships of his day. These were more familiar and relevant to the wider context of history.

The GOP would be satisfied with pre-Roe v. Wade abortion laws across the states. They're not going to push beyond that because there would be no way to popularize it.

Dude chill. It’s a book and a TV series.

You almost sound like you want to burn all the books.

As to what the gop/trumpests would do? The fact they have been trying to nuke it for 47 years......you can’t discount the possibilities.

[The Black Forrest]

I hope President Trump names his US Supreme Court Justice Pick today or tomorrow Tuesday.

Looks like we have a Trump Supporter here! Me too.

hello pawpet. Who is your master?

[The Black Forrest]

I am not a fan of him.

How is he the worst?

He combines failed social conservatism with destructive neocon foreign policies and braindead economic views.

Trump at least for all his very long list of faults has slowly but surely killed that wing of the party, which is good.

Ok. It was a curiosity question....

The Schiavo affair showed he was also bad in that he didn’t like the courts decision and decided to send marshals in to move her. Her husband later wrote all his opponents apologized for what went down. Ol Jeb did not.

Old Mitch is a horrid republican for different reasons.

[New haven america]

I found this to be a good read from the Atlantic.

Tl;dr: no matter who wins in November a very large group of people are going to believe it's illegitimate and American democracy could potentially be facing its biggest challenge yet.

The good news is if Biden wins nobody is happy which means we might actually see mass action instead of just a poorly thought out attempted coup

Uh, I'll be happy if Biden wins.

I'd be happy if a ice cream sandwich won.

[The Black Forrest]

I found this to be a good read from the Atlantic.

Tl;dr: no matter who wins in November a very large group of people are going to believe it's illegitimate and American democracy could potentially be facing its biggest challenge yet.

The good news is if Biden wins nobody is happy which means we might actually see mass action instead of just a poorly thought out attempted coup

To get rid of Trump is a good thing. Biden has his faults. At least he will listen to people.

As to a coup? I don’t see the keyboard legions actually trying it.

[San Lumen]

https://assets.morningconsult.com/wp-up ... RVs_v1.pdf
new national poll has Biden up seven.48-41. poll is from this weekend.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5 ... lic-voters
Biden leads by 12 among Catholic voters. Clinton won the Catholic vote by 5. Biden would be second Catholic president after JFK.

[Washington Resistance Army]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5 ... lic-voters
Biden leads by 12 among Catholic voters. Clinton won the Catholic vote by 5. Biden would be second Catholic president after JFK.

Amusing given he was denied communion and such things.

[United States of Devonta]

https://assets.morningconsult.com/wp-uploads/2020/09/21170237/200986_crosstabs_TIK_TOK_RVs_v1.pdf
new national poll has Biden up seven.48-41. poll is from this weekend.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5 ... lic-voters
Biden leads by 12 among Catholic voters. Clinton won the Catholic vote by 5. Biden would be second Catholic president after JFK.

The fact that we've only had two Catholic presidents is wild. Man, JFK had to openly say he wouldn't follow the Popes orders, just so he could be politically viable.

[San Lumen]

https://assets.morningconsult.com/wp-uploads/2020/09/21170237/200986_crosstabs_TIK_TOK_RVs_v1.pdf
new national poll has Biden up seven.48-41. poll is from this weekend.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5 ... lic-voters
Biden leads by 12 among Catholic voters. Clinton won the Catholic vote by 5. Biden would be second Catholic president after JFK.

The fact that we've only had two Catholic presidents is wild. Man, JFK had to openly say he wouldn't follow the Popes orders, just so he could be politically viable.

Its sad he had to do that but he didn't;t have much a choice. People genuinely thought he be having the Pope visit the White House frequently.

Biden is the fourth Catholic nominee for President. Kerry was the third. The first was Al Smith in 1928 and he lost in a landslide to Herbert Hoover in part due to anti Catholicism.

[New haven america]

https://assets.morningconsult.com/wp-uploads/2020/09/21170237/200986_crosstabs_TIK_TOK_RVs_v1.pdf
new national poll has Biden up seven.48-41. poll is from this weekend.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5 ... lic-voters
Biden leads by 12 among Catholic voters. Clinton won the Catholic vote by 5. Biden would be second Catholic president after JFK.

The fact that we've only had two Catholic presidents is wild. Man, JFK had to openly say he wouldn't follow the Popes orders, just so he could be politically viable.

That's because despite currently having a majority of the Christian demographic of the nation being Catholic atm, the US has always been super protestant, even the culture for those who aren't protestant takes a lot of inspiration from those who are.

So yeah, having a President be openly Catholic even in an era where Catholicism is the majority form of Christianity? Yeah, no, gl with that.

[Kowani]

Gardner will not oppose a trump nominee.

[San Lumen]

Gardner will not oppose a trump nominee.

Well he just doomed himself for reelection.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Trump met with Barrett at the White House. It looks like they have the votes and it looks like it's gonna be her, she'll probably be on the bench in a week or two knowing McConnell.

[San Lumen]

Trump met with Barrett at the White House. It looks like they have the votes and it looks like it's gonna be her, she'll probably be on the bench in a week or two knowing McConnell.

and they will cause a democratic mega tsunami. The public is not with them on this. Democrats will expand the court come January,

[Washington Resistance Army]

Trump met with Barrett at the White House. It looks like they have the votes and it looks like it's gonna be her, she'll probably be on the bench in a week or two knowing McConnell.

and they will cause a democratic mega tsunami. The public is not with them on this. Democrats will expand the court come January,

I'll give Biden one thing, at least he's smart enough to see how atrocious and poorly thought out an idea that is.

[Ngelmish]

Trump met with Barrett at the White House. It looks like they have the votes and it looks like it's gonna be her, she'll probably be on the bench in a week or two knowing McConnell.

I know you disagree, but that's a poor political judgment call from where I'm sitting. Trump chances to win this thing and keep the senate aren't great, but if they merely dangle Barrett, that might actually move some votes back to him that were either going to sit on their hands or vote for someone else due to the pandemic. Especially since y'all still have a 5-4 advantage built in for at least 15 years.

and they will cause a democratic mega tsunami. The public is not with them on this. Democrats will expand the court come January,

I'll give Biden one thing, at least he's smart enough to see how atrocious and poorly thought out an idea that is.

Yeah, court expansion is the wrong power play. If the Democrats want to play majoritarian hardball, they incorporate new states.

[San Lumen]

Trump met with Barrett at the White House. It looks like they have the votes and it looks like it's gonna be her, she'll probably be on the bench in a week or two knowing McConnell.

I know you disagree, but that's a poor political judgment call from where I'm sitting. Trump chances to win this thing and keep the senate aren't great, but if they merely dangle Barrett, that might actually move some votes back to him that were either going to sit on their hands or vote for someone else due to the pandemic. Especially since y'all still have a 5-4 advantage built in for at least 15 years.

I'll give Biden one thing, at least he's smart enough to see how atrocious and poorly thought out an idea that is.

Yeah, court expansion is the wrong power play. If the Democrats want to play majoritarian hardball, they incorporate new states.

They arent going to just dangle her. They are determined to get her on the court as soon as possible.

How does incorporating new states help them when in comes to the courts?