2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

[Rusozak]

Oh wait. He is iceland right?

Yeah. I'm not judging his contributions to the 2020 thread, I occasionally pop into the UK or Canadian threads, I just wish Trump posters from abroad would kinda just sit down and recognize the existential anxiety many Americans live in which is, in large part, due to the Trump presidency.

Reminds me of people from outside of China praising Xi.

[Major-Tom]

Yeah. I'm not judging his contributions to the 2020 thread, I occasionally pop into the UK or Canadian threads, I just wish Trump posters from abroad would kinda just sit down and recognize the existential anxiety many Americans live in which is, in large part, due to the Trump presidency.

Reminds me of people from outside of China praising Xi.

You're not incorrect.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Oh wait. He is iceland right?

Yeah. I'm not judging his contributions to the 2020 thread, I occasionally pop into the UK or Canadian threads, I just wish Trump posters from abroad would kinda just sit down and recognize the existential anxiety many Americans live in which is, in large part, due to the Trump presidency.

Why, we Republican Trump supporters don't have any problems with the Trump Presidency, including them?

[Nobel Hobos 2]

25% rural. I'm glad to get a reply from you though.

I appreciate your determination when given an opportunity to realize you've made a mistake to go, "Nope, gonna die on this hill."

You can probably grasp intuitively that a legislative body which provides as much representation to Wyoming (population: 580,000) as California (population: 39.5 million) will tend to favor rural areas. But it’s a bigger effect than you might realize, so let’s run some numbers. At FiveThirtyEight, our favorite way to distinguish between urban and rural areas is based on using census tracts to estimate how many people live within a 5-mile radius of you. Based on this, we can break every person in the country down into four buckets:

Rural: Less than 25,000 people live within a 5-mile radius of you;
Exurban or small town: Between 25,000 and 100,000 people within a 5-mile radius;
Suburban or small city: Between 100,000 and 250,000 people within a 5-mile radius;
Urban core or large city: More than 250,000 people within a 5-mile radius.

As it happens, the overall U.S. population (including Washington D.C. and Puerto Rico) is split almost exactly evenly between these buckets: 25 percent rural, 23 percent exurban/small town, 27 percent suruban/small city, and 25 percent urban core/large city.

But what does representation look like in the Senate? Since each state has the same number of senators, this is simple to calculate. We can take the urban/rural breakdown for each state and average the 50 states together, as in the table below:

I was trying to remember why you were on ignore. Now I remember, it's your die hard refusal to read or review.

So that's why you don't get responses. And you won't get anymore. This is tiring.

And the same to you sir.

[Rusozak]

Yeah. I'm not judging his contributions to the 2020 thread, I occasionally pop into the UK or Canadian threads, I just wish Trump posters from abroad would kinda just sit down and recognize the existential anxiety many Americans live in which is, in large part, due to the Trump presidency.

Why, we Republican Trump supporters don't have any problems with the Trump Presidency, including them?

Because most Americans are not Trump supporters.

[Shrillland]

In the news, a small but relatively major change on Alaskan ballots was upheld by the State Supreme Court: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/alaska-ballots-wont-note-candidates-party-affiliation-only-how-they-were-nominated/ar-BB19cj9w?li=AAggFp5

Instead of showing a candidate's party affiliation, the ballot will show how they were nominated and by whom, which could lead to many independent and nonpartisan candidates being labeled for parties they don't belong to.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Why, we Republican Trump supporters don't have any problems with the Trump Presidency, including them?

Because most Americans are not Trump supporters.

So what American citizens and non American citizens posters on these threads have a democratic right to support President Trump and the Republicans, have a democratic right to post Pro Trump Posts. These related threads are not just anti Trump threads, for all of you to agree with each other. We think differently than you guys on Trump and most issues.

Just like all of you have a democratic right to support Biden and the Democrats, and have a democratic right to post Pro Biden and Pro Democrat posts.

This respect of the right to think differently and post it, is not earned, it is given and it exists in America, the USA and western style multi political party nations, it is called Democracy. I don't care in this case I was forced to repeat myself like the broken record I am, when the response post fits the post.

I swear I have talked to many Republicans and Trump supporters who say they ignore you guys on these related threads, because they feel they cant argue with you guys, and I am not lying.

At least 90 % of the posters on these related threads are anti Trump Posters, and while NS is majority or plurality leftist, the ratio is not as great as 90 % to 10 % Proving my Point as a Fact.

I don't put any of my fellow nations on ignore for any reasons, even when it is a negative actionable comment on me, or when I strongly disagree with any fellow nation, on Trump, the Republicans, Biden, the Democrats, any issues, Cuba my pet issue on NS for obvious reasons as a native Cuban and American citizen Proud Republican supporter of President Trump and the Republicans.

I can go on, on and on, on this, but this will do.

GMS.

[The Black Forrest]

In the news, a small but relatively major change on Alaskan ballots was upheld by the State Supreme Court: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/alaska-ballots-wont-note-candidates-party-affiliation-only-how-they-were-nominated/ar-BB19cj9w?li=AAggFp5

Instead of showing a candidate's party affiliation, the ballot will show how they were nominated and by whom, which could lead to many independent and nonpartisan candidates being labeled for parties they don't belong to.

That......doesn’t make any sense to me. why not have a nonpartisan label for example?

[Rusozak]

Because most Americans are not Trump supporters.

So what American citizens and non American citizens posters on these threads have a democratic right to support President Trump and the Republicans, have a democratic right to post Pro Trump Posts. These related threads are not just anti Trump threads, for all of you to agree with each other. We think differently than you guys on Trump and most issues.

Just like all of you have a democratic right to support Biden and the Democrats, and have a democratic right to post Pro Biden and Pro Democrat posts.

This respect of the right to think differently and post it, is not earned, it is given and it exists in America, the USA and western style multi political party nations, it is called Democracy. I don't care in this case I was forced to repeat myself like the broken record I am, when the response post fits the post.

I swear I have talked to many Republicans and Trump supporters who say they ignore you guys on these related threads, because they feel they cant argue with you guys, and I am not lying.

At least 90 % of the posters on these related threads are anti Trump Posters, and while NS is majority or plurality leftist, the ration is not as great as 90 % to 10 % Proving my Point as a Fact.

I don't put any of my fellow nations on ignore for any reasons, even when it is a negative actionable comment on me, or when I strongly disagree with any fellow nation, on Trump, the Republicans, Biden, the Democrats, Cuba my pet issue on NS for obvious reasons as a native Cuban and American citizen Proud Republican supporter of President Trump and the Republicans.

I can go on, on and on, on this, but this will do.

GMS.

I'm not saying they can't express their opinions. I'm merely pointing out that a foreigner Trump supporter won't be directly impacted by Trump's actions and doesn't have to live in Trump's world. Much like a American that supports Castro, a foreigner supporting Trump has no idea what it's actually like to be a subject of the man they praise, and doesn't have to worry about it. Ask any persecuted minority in the United States what four more years of Trump means to them and you'll get an idea.

[Shrillland]

In the news, a small but relatively major change on Alaskan ballots was upheld by the State Supreme Court: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/alaska-ballots-wont-note-candidates-party-affiliation-only-how-they-were-nominated/ar-BB19cj9w?li=AAggFp5

Instead of showing a candidate's party affiliation, the ballot will show how they were nominated and by whom, which could lead to many independent and nonpartisan candidates being labeled for parties they don't belong to.

That......doesn’t make any sense to me. why not have a nonpartisan label for example?

This was done fairly quietly just in the last week before ballots start going out. Most, not all but most, independents and nonpartisans in Alaska the last few times have been supported by the Democratic Party over any actual Democrats. This way, they get to be mislabeled as Democrats, and Alaska being the blood red state it is....

[Major-Tom]

In the news, a small but relatively major change on Alaskan ballots was upheld by the State Supreme Court: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/alaska-ballots-wont-note-candidates-party-affiliation-only-how-they-were-nominated/ar-BB19cj9w?li=AAggFp5

Instead of showing a candidate's party affiliation, the ballot will show how they were nominated and by whom, which could lead to many independent and nonpartisan candidates being labeled for parties they don't belong to.

That......doesn’t make any sense to me. why not have a nonpartisan label for example?

It's likely because a lot of Alaskan Independents are nominated by the Democratic Party and Libertarian Party, be it their congressional candidate in 2018 or their current Senate candidate.

That's not to say that they're just Democrats masquerading as Independents, it's kinda just an Alaskan thing. But, typically, independents and third-party folks perform better in AK than anywhere else in the country by far, and by being able to try to assign them to a party could hurt them politically. But, I may just be speculating.

Edit: Ninja'd by Shrilland.

[The Black Forrest]

That......doesn’t make any sense to me. why not have a nonpartisan label for example?

It's likely because a lot of Alaskan Independents are nominated by the Democratic Party and Libertarian Party, be it their congressional candidate in 2018 or their current Senate candidate.

That's not to say that they're just Democrats masquerading as Independents, it's kinda just an Alaskan thing. But, typically, independents and third-party folks perform better in AK than anywhere else in the country by far, and by being able to try to assign them to a party could hurt them politically. But, I may just be speculating.

Edit: Ninja'd by Shrilland.

Ah. Ok. Thanks guys!

[Dominioan]

Oh wait. He is iceland right?

Yeah. I'm not judging his contributions to the 2020 thread, I occasionally pop into the UK or Canadian threads, I just wish Trump posters from abroad would kinda just sit down and recognize the existential anxiety many Americans live in which is, in large part, due to the Trump presidency.

Yeah, because Trump was elected That was when I really stared delving into the cesspool of America politics, and thanks to Trump and his actions, I am honestly unsure about any good future for the US.

[Greater Miami Shores]

So what American citizens and non American citizens posters on these threads have a democratic right to support President Trump and the Republicans, have a democratic right to post Pro Trump Posts. These related threads are not just anti Trump threads, for all of you to agree with each other. We think differently than you guys on Trump and most issues.

Just like all of you have a democratic right to support Biden and the Democrats, and have a democratic right to post Pro Biden and Pro Democrat posts.

This respect of the right to think differently and post it, is not earned, it is given and it exists in America, the USA and western style multi political party nations, it is called Democracy. I don't care in this case I was forced to repeat myself like the broken record I am, when the response post fits the post.

I swear I have talked to many Republicans and Trump supporters who say they ignore you guys on these related threads, because they feel they cant argue with you guys, and I am not lying.

At least 90 % of the posters on these related threads are anti Trump Posters, and while NS is majority or plurality leftist, the ration is not as great as 90 % to 10 % Proving my Point as a Fact.

I don't put any of my fellow nations on ignore for any reasons, even when it is a negative actionable comment on me, or when I strongly disagree with any fellow nation, on Trump, the Republicans, Biden, the Democrats, Cuba my pet issue on NS for obvious reasons as a native Cuban and American citizen Proud Republican supporter of President Trump and the Republicans.

I can go on, on and on, on this, but this will do.

GMS.

I'm not saying they can't express their opinions. I'm merely pointing out that a foreigner Trump supporter won't be directly impacted by Trump's actions and doesn't have to live in Trump's world. Much like a American that supports Castro, a foreigner supporting Trump has no idea what it's actually like to be a subject of the man they praise, and doesn't have to worry about it. Ask any persecuted minority in the United States what four more years of Trump means to them and you'll get an idea.

This goes for all of you. The Point is they have a democratic right from the nations we are posting from, to support and post anything they wish, pro or con, without being told they should understand and not post it, because it hurts your personal, political, social views and feelings, they strongly disagree with.

As a native Cuban and American citizen, I have no problems with any American or foreigner posting Pro Fidel, Pro Raúl Castro, Pro Miguel Diaz-Canel, Pro Manuel Marrero Cruz, Pro Cuba regime posts, in the appropriate related threads.

A few of your fellow leftists, used to post non actionable and actionable, Pro Castro, Pro Cuba jokes and statements at my expense to me and to each other even on threads not related to Cuba, when we strongly disagreed on Trump and the Republicans. Proving my point as a Fact, which I can prove if I ever need too.

That many here on NS have a personal and political problem with me supporting Trump and the Republicans. But on my anti Cuba related threads and posts they don't have any such problems with me, only on Trump related threads, Proving my Point as a Fact, which I can prove if I ever need too.

[New haven america]

So instead of doing a 2nd Trump impeachment the Dems are now considering going after Barr, which does have the same rules applied to a Presidential impeachment and is has gotten a few members of the House who were iffy on the idea on board.

[South Odreria 2]

So instead of doing a 2nd Trump impeachment the Dems are now considering going after Barr, which does have the same rules applied to a Presidential impeachment and is has gotten a few members of the House who were iffy on the idea on board.

why don't they just win the election

[Greater Miami Shores]

So instead of doing a 2nd Trump impeachment the Dems are now considering going after Barr, which does have the same rules applied to a Presidential impeachment and is has gotten a few members of the House who were iffy on the idea on board.

Proving my point on the Democrats, anything they can think of to hurt Trump and the Republicans, they don't care about justice in America, the USA, they care about playing politics. I have also posted many times the Republicans play politics too, neither are political saints.

[New haven america]

So instead of doing a 2nd Trump impeachment the Dems are now considering going after Barr, which does have the same rules applied to a Presidential impeachment and is has gotten a few members of the House who were iffy on the idea on board.

Proving my point on the Democrats, anything they can think of to hurt Trump and the Republicans, they don't care about justice in America, the USA, they care about playing politics. I have also posted many times the Republicans play politics too, neither are political saints.

Because most of the current Republicans currently in control of the government are terrorists and deserve to be gone after.

[San Lumen]

In the news, a small but relatively major change on Alaskan ballots was upheld by the State Supreme Court: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/alaska-ballots-wont-note-candidates-party-affiliation-only-how-they-were-nominated/ar-BB19cj9w?li=AAggFp5

Instead of showing a candidate's party affiliation, the ballot will show how they were nominated and by whom, which could lead to many independent and nonpartisan candidates being labeled for parties they don't belong to.

why would they be listed for parties they don't belong to? Im not following.

[Shrillland]

So instead of doing a 2nd Trump impeachment the Dems are now considering going after Barr, which does have the same rules applied to a Presidential impeachment and is has gotten a few members of the House who were iffy on the idea on board.

why don't they just win the election

For the simple reason that winning the election alone won't impede any attempt to rush Barrett's nomination through the Senate. The Democrats are looking for any and every option to hold off a confirmation before January.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Proving my point on the Democrats, anything they can think of to hurt Trump and the Republicans, they don't care about justice in America, the USA, they care about playing politics. I have also posted many times the Republicans play politics too, neither are political saints.

Because most of the current Republicans currently in control of the government are terrorists.

Have you ever called Democrats in power terrorists?

Those are your personal, political views and feelings from your political perspective you are entitled too and have a democratic right to post to me and anyone on NS, from the multi political party nation you are posting from.

[New haven america]

So instead of doing a 2nd Trump impeachment the Dems are now considering going after Barr, which does have the same rules applied to a Presidential impeachment and is has gotten a few members of the House who were iffy on the idea on board.

why don't they just win the election

Why don't you look up how the Supreme Court works?

[New haven america]

Because most of the current Republicans currently in control of the government are terrorists.

Have you ever called Democrats in power terrorists?

Those are your personal, political views and feelings from your political perspective you are entitled too and have a democratic right to post to me and anyone on NS, from the multi political party nation you are posting from.

No, that's fact.

[South Odreria 2]

why don't they just win the election

For the simple reason that winning the election alone won't impede any attempt to rush Barrett's nomination through the Senate. The Democrats are looking for any and every option to hold off a confirmation before January.

Seems like getting four republican senators to defect is easier than nineteen?

[Shrillland]

In the news, a small but relatively major change on Alaskan ballots was upheld by the State Supreme Court: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/alaska-ballots-wont-note-candidates-party-affiliation-only-how-they-were-nominated/ar-BB19cj9w?li=AAggFp5

Instead of showing a candidate's party affiliation, the ballot will show how they were nominated and by whom, which could lead to many independent and nonpartisan candidates being labeled for parties they don't belong to.

why would they be listed for parties they don't belong to? Im not following.

Well, Major Tom and myself both mentioned it already:

That......doesn’t make any sense to me. why not have a nonpartisan label for example?

It's likely because a lot of Alaskan Independents are nominated by the Democratic Party and Libertarian Party, be it their congressional candidate in 2018 or their current Senate candidate.

That's not to say that they're just Democrats masquerading as Independents, it's kinda just an Alaskan thing. But, typically, independents and third-party folks perform better in AK than anywhere else in the country by far, and by being able to try to assign them to a party could hurt them politically. But, I may just be speculating.

Edit: Ninja'd by Shrilland.

In other words, Independents get mislabeled as Democrats, Alaskans vote against them on that basis alone.