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2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:34 pm

Chan Island wrote:
Purpelia wrote:You people seriously need to break up your political monopolies and create a whole bunch of smaller parties instead of the two giant ones.


This is why proportional representation is a such a beautiful thing.

Shame we can’t get that here.

Honestly if we had that I bet you a lot of our issues would be solved
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:35 pm

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:You are not on either side, but you criticize and put down Trump and me all the time, so I think you are at least technically, but not officially on the Democrats side.


Yeah I do cause Trump is a fucking dumbass. Anyone who I wanna call out I do, and I've done it to Joe Biden and Harris before.

But if you don't like either of them who are you going to vote for? I mean, you have to pick one. Even if you don't vote that's just voting for whomever wins.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:35 pm

New haven america wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
FYI, I was in a rush to complete a much more important task than respond to your BS.

But you're the one who started this BS to being with.


Responding to a BS post is not starting BS, big brain.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:35 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:You do realize how stupid saying “this part of the constitution is unconstitutional” sounds right? Like, that’s the kinda logic Trump would probably love to use.

If it works it’s not stupid.

Besides at that point I’d use the law where I was able to lock up the republicans as terrorists to go after those who disagreed with the courts opinion

You would arrest the Democrats as terrorists if you had the power too?
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Postby Rusozak » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:35 pm

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:
New haven america wrote:Well A. I'm not on the left

For a non leftist you sure seem to like repeating leftist talking points, and Maoist rhetoric such as arresting people of the opposing party


As opposed to intimidating them at polling stations and encouraging mob violence against them?
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:35 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Yeah I do cause Trump is a fucking dumbass. Anyone who I wanna call out I do, and I've done it to Joe Biden and Harris before.

But if you don't like either of them who are you going to vote for? I mean, you have to pick one. Even if you don't vote that's just voting for whomever wins.


He'll vote for Kanye.

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Postby Kexholm and Karelia » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:35 pm

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New haven america wrote:Why would anyone want that?

Different people have different values. Not everyone is a leftist

Some people (generally known as “communists”) value genociding their opposition and killing people for not following in step with their plans
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:35 pm

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:
New haven america wrote:Well A. I'm not on the left

For a non leftist you sure seem to like repeating leftist talking points, and Maoist rhetoric such as arresting people of the opposing party

That’s not Maoist rhetoric that’s your run of the mill dictatorship speak
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:36 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Purpelia wrote:It can if used in the proper context of a wider discussion. Plus, frankly nobody but you cares. Everyone else read the previous posts and understood what I meant. You are just being pedantic for the sake of trolling.


Fam I hate trolls as much as the next sane person viewing this thread. If you can't correction properly, that's your problem.

You is both singular and plural. Please stop. I’m begging you...the plural you, all of you, for fuck’s sake...could we at least put a flag on this thread or something when it wanders near the actual topic of the thread and not the world’s dumbest conversation about how to use the word ‘you’?

It’s so exhausting to check in now and then and have pages of this wankery to wade through for the rare on topic post.
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:37 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
New haven america wrote:But you're the one who started this BS to being with.


Responding to a BS post is not starting BS, big brain.

You are the one who basically derailed my civilized conversation with another person with your perfectly pointless pedantry. That literally is the definition of BS.
I am not even going to respond to you any more as at this point it's just feeding a troll.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:37 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Fam I hate trolls as much as the next sane person viewing this thread. If you can't correction properly, that's your problem.

You is both singular and plural. Please stop. I’m begging you...the plural you, all of you, for fuck’s sake...could we at least put a flag on this thread or something when it wanders near the actual topic of the thread and not the world’s dumbest conversation about how to use the word ‘you’?

It’s so exhausting to check in now and then and have pages of this wankery to wade through for the rare on topic post.


Oh well, welcome to America, my fake friend.

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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:38 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Responding to a BS post is not starting BS, big brain.

You are the one who basically derailed my civilized conversation with another person with your perfectly pointless pedantry. That literally is the definition of BS.
I am not even going to respond to you any more as at this point it's just feeding a troll.


Alright, then, you do that. I can't control you.

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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:39 pm

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:
New haven america wrote:Well A. I'm not on the left

For a non leftist you sure seem to like repeating leftist talking points, and Maoist rhetoric such as arresting people of the opposing party

That's not Maoist.

Maoism would be me saying that we need to create an asexual empire and that anyone who disagrees with me should get sent to labor camps in order to support The Great Leap Forward.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:39 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:You is both singular and plural. Please stop. I’m begging you...the plural you, all of you, for fuck’s sake...could we at least put a flag on this thread or something when it wanders near the actual topic of the thread and not the world’s dumbest conversation about how to use the word ‘you’?

It’s so exhausting to check in now and then and have pages of this wankery to wade through for the rare on topic post.


Oh well, welcome to America, my fake friend.

Yeah okay, this will never get any better. Putting this on silent. Goodbye summertime.
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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:40 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Kannap wrote:
33 states have laws requiring electors to vote for their pledged candidate. Only 14 of these states have mechanics in place to void and replace faithless electors - five states (two belonging to the aforementioned 14) have fines or jail time as penalties, though three of those don't have a mechanic to void the vote, it gets counted

So essentially faithless electors are banned in 14 states.


Any of them swing states?


Here you go
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:40 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Oh well, welcome to America, my fake friend.

Yeah okay, this will never get any better. Putting this on silent. Goodbye summertime.


It's basically already gone.

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Postby Purpelia » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:41 pm

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:
New haven america wrote:Well A. I'm not on the left

For a non leftist you sure seem to like repeating leftist talking points, and Maoist rhetoric such as arresting people of the opposing party

That's not Maoist or even leftist. It's just plain old authoritarian evil. You can have left wing politics without evil just as you can have evil without left wing politics.
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Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby New haven america » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:43 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Kexholm and Karelia wrote:For a non leftist you sure seem to like repeating leftist talking points, and Maoist rhetoric such as arresting people of the opposing party

That's not Maoist or even leftist. It's just plain old authoritarian evil.

How is wanting to get rid of a terrorist organization such The Republican Party currently in control of the US government authoritarian or evil?

Keep in mind that the US' quickest periods of growth happened when Reps weren't in charge.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:44 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:You do realize how stupid saying “this part of the constitution is unconstitutional” sounds right? Like, that’s the kinda logic Trump would probably love to use.

If it works it’s not stupid.

Besides at that point I’d use the law where I was able to lock up the republicans as terrorists to go after those who disagreed with the courts opinion

Is your authoritarianism that of using your position of power to actually help people and be a benevolent and just ruler or is it just power for the sake of power and oppressing people just because you can? Cuz I can’t tell anymore.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:45 pm

New haven america wrote:
Purpelia wrote:That's not Maoist or even leftist. It's just plain old authoritarian evil.

How is wanting to get rid of a terrorist organization such The Republican Party currently in control of the US government authoritarian or evil?

Keep in mind that the US' quickest periods of growth happened when Reps weren't in charge.


Keep in mind that they aren't terrorists and you won't be able to get rid of them.

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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:45 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
New haven america wrote:Why would anyone want that?


You keep criticizing both parties and it's hard to tell which one you belong to.


Not everybody has to belong to a party.
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:45 pm

New haven america wrote:
Purpelia wrote:That's not Maoist or even leftist. It's just plain old authoritarian evil.

How is wanting to get rid of a terrorist organization such The Republican Party currently in control of the US government authoritarian or evil?

Keep in mind that the US' quickest periods of growth happened when Reps weren't in charge.

We had this conversation before if I remember. TLDR just because you disagree with people does not make it right for you to "get rid" of them. The moment anyone has that right is the moment society falls into a dictatorship and bad thingsTM happen.
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Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:46 pm

Kannap wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
You keep criticizing both parties and it's hard to tell which one you belong to.


Not everybody has to belong to a party.


I didn't say anyone had to. I was just asking which party they belong to.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:47 pm

New haven america wrote:
Purpelia wrote:That's not Maoist or even leftist. It's just plain old authoritarian evil.

How is wanting to get rid of a terrorist organization such The Republican Party currently in control of the US government authoritarian or evil?

Keep in mind that the US' quickest periods of growth happened when Reps weren't in charge.

I am allowed under NS rules to ask the question again. Have you ever considered the Democrats the same way you consider the Republicans?
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:48 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
New haven america wrote:How is wanting to get rid of a terrorist organization such The Republican Party currently in control of the US government authoritarian or evil?

Keep in mind that the US' quickest periods of growth happened when Reps weren't in charge.

I am allowed under NS rules to ask the question again. Have you ever considered the Democrats the same way you consider the Republicans?


I don't understand why it would be unlawful to repeat a question haha.
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