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2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308
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Saint Sche Batose
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:33 pm

Liriena wrote:
Kexholm and Karelia wrote:It’s been well documented since modern leftism has existed, you don’t need more

What's the "hypocrisy" here?


He shrugged about being rude to someone opening up about their beliefs when that's what his kind love to complain about.
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Postby Liriena » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:33 pm

Heloin wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Galvanize and radicalize mean two different things.

I think Kex is under the impression that the Democratic Party is the IRA.

[happy Irish Republican noises]
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:34 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Oh no, the delete button.
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Oh dude. Don’t get yourself deleted. You are actually interesting and have potential.


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Postby Liriena » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:35 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Liriena wrote:What's the "hypocrisy" here?


He shrugged about being rude to someone opening up about their beliefs when that's what his kind love to complain about.

"his kind"?

Ah, so it's "hypocrisy" because you and your new best friend over there assume your own overgeneralizations apply to him... without proof.

Very cool. Very cerebral.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:36 pm

Liriena wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
He shrugged about being rude to someone opening up about their beliefs when that's what his kind love to complain about.

"his kind"?

Ah, so it's "hypocrisy" because you and your new best friend over there assume your own overgeneralizations apply to him... without proof.

Very cool. Very cerebral.


Smooth brain or hard brain?
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Postby Liriena » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:37 pm

New haven america wrote:Fun fact: Amy Barrett's (One of Trump's top picks) sect of Christianity is what inspired Margaret Atwood to write The Handmaid's Tale.

The United States are a bunch of failed states hiding in a trenchcoat.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:38 pm

Liriena wrote:
New haven america wrote:Fun fact: Amy Barrett's (One of Trump's top picks) sect of Christianity is what inspired Margaret Atwood to write The Handmaid's Tale.

The United States are a bunch of failed states hiding in a trenchcoat.


Don't you talk about Florida that way.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:38 pm

Liriena wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
He shrugged about being rude to someone opening up about their beliefs when that's what his kind love to complain about.

"his kind"?

Ah, so it's "hypocrisy" because you and your new best friend over there assume your own overgeneralizations apply to him... without proof.

Very cool. Very cerebral.


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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:38 pm

Heloin wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Election Night: Howie Hawkins takes Florida!

Prohibition party takes Mississippi.

Constitution party takes New York
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Postby Liriena » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:39 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Liriena wrote:"his kind"?

Ah, so it's "hypocrisy" because you and your new best friend over there assume your own overgeneralizations apply to him... without proof.

Very cool. Very cerebral.


Smooth brain or hard brain?

I don't like the wrinkles in my brain. They make me sad. I'm gonna smooth them out, join QAnon and burn a 5G tower.
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I am:
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An aspiring writer and journalist		Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:39 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
You guys do know our votes mean nothing whatsoever?

Indeed. The new world order already picked who won months ago.


Brother. I have to turn you in for renedification. You know you aren’t supposed to speak of the order.
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:39 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Smooth brain or hard brain?

I don't like the wrinkles in my brain. They make me sad. I'm gonna smooth them out, join QAnon and burn a 5G tower.


What do you gain by doing that?
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Postby Heloin » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:39 pm

Liriena wrote:
Heloin wrote:I think Kex is under the impression that the Democratic Party is the IRA.

[happy Irish Republican noises]

I love that he's barely holding back his own smile.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:40 pm

Heloin wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Galvanize and radicalize mean two different things.

I think Kex is under the impression that the Democratic Party is the IRA.


Man I'd become the staunchest Democrat possible if they became Provos :lol:
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Postby Heloin » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:40 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Heloin wrote:Prohibition party takes Mississippi.

Constitution party takes New York

In the new America every state will go to a different party.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:40 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Indeed. The new world order already picked who won months ago.


Brother. I have to turn you in for renedification. You know you aren’t supposed to speak of the order.


Oh, that's some Simpsons shit, right?
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Postby Liriena » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:42 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Liriena wrote:I don't like the wrinkles in my brain. They make me sad. I'm gonna smooth them out, join QAnon and burn a 5G tower.


What do you gain by doing that?

Getting retweeted by Trump or one of his idiot sons, probably.
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist		Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:42 pm

Post War America wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
The courts are how you have a check on the executive. Without that a executive could do whatever he or she wanted.

What do you want in the courts place?


The courts were powerless to stop Andrew Jackson's engaging in ethnic cleansing even when they said what he was doing was wrong. What the courts say have no meaningful check on the executive because quite frankly, the executive has an army and they do not.

Ideally, there would be no legislative state, but since you are insistent on expecting me to do the work in this discourse, I at the barest minimum would impose term limits on the existing court.


If the courts fail, the army could disobey the executive's orders. It didn't happen back then, but that doesn't mean that it could happen in the future.
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:43 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Unless we pack it with four justices come next year.

The number of supreme court justices was fixed at nine by federal law. You'd have to get congress to actually pass a law changing it in order to pack the courts.

Democrats will probably do just that. Harris is for court packing.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:43 pm

Liriena wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
What do you gain by doing that?

Getting retweeted by Trump or one of his idiot sons, probably.


Idiot son. I don’t think the other one knows how.
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:43 pm

Liriena wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:
What do you gain by doing that?

Getting retweeted by Trump or one of his idiot sons, probably.


Ah, I see. It would also worsen the left side's reputation to some common rioters.
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Postby Liriena » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:43 pm

Heloin wrote:

I love that he's barely holding back his own smile.

He sings with the strength of a hundred car bombs.
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist		Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:45 pm

Kexholm and Karelia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Screw Him. He should resign from the Senate for his utter hypocrisy or his staff should refuse to work.

But he won’t, and I agree with him because ensuring a conservative court would do much more to fight far left socialism and communism in the long term

Putting a conservative on the court isn’t going to stop either of those. Actually it’s probably more likely to cause people to turn towards violence and revolution
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>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
Click for Da Funies

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Postby Liriena » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:45 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
Liriena wrote:Getting retweeted by Trump or one of his idiot sons, probably.


Ah, I see. It would also worsen the left side's reputation to some common rioters.

Now this is conservative comedy.
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist		Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism

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Postby Major-Tom » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:46 pm

I don't know what y'all are gaining trying to argue with this dude, sometimes you can tell when it's a lost cause.
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