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2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Dresderstan
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:16 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Literally any major U.S. city like Philly, L.A. Detroit, Chicago, Portland, Seattle.

I heard nothing about that. Prove it. You also think a pandemic means all rights should be signed away indefinitely and all movement completely restricted and monitored by the government.

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/crime ... 2005310133

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Postby Kannap » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:17 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Literally any major U.S. city like Philly, L.A. Detroit, Chicago, Portland, Seattle.

I heard nothing about that. Prove it. You also think a pandemic means all rights should be signed away indefinitely and all movement completely restricted and monitored by the government.


Good thing I'm going to bed so I don't have to continue arguing, but your denial of what's been in front of your eyes for months now following George Floyd's death is the final nail in the coffin to convince me you're basically a Republican
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:17 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I heard nothing about that. Prove it. You also think a pandemic means all rights should be signed away indefinitely and all movement completely restricted and monitored by the government.

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/crime ... 2005310133

There is a difference between a riot and a peaceful protest

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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:18 pm

Kannap wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I heard nothing about that. Prove it. You also think a pandemic means all rights should be signed away indefinitely and all movement completely restricted and monitored by the government.


Good thing I'm going to bed so I don't have to continue arguing, but your denial of what's been in front of your eyes for months now following George Floyd's death is the final nail in the coffin to convince me you're basically a Republican

it' only quarter past 8 and you're going to bed?!

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Postby Kannap » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:18 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Good thing I'm going to bed so I don't have to continue arguing, but your denial of what's been in front of your eyes for months now following George Floyd's death is the final nail in the coffin to convince me you're basically a Republican

it' only quarter past 8 and you're going to bed?!


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Postby Post War America » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:20 pm

San Lumen wrote:

There is a difference between a riot and a peaceful protest


Not to the police there isn't.

Here's another example.
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:20 pm

San Lumen wrote:

There is a difference between a riot and a peaceful protest

Despite the fact it was a protest that devolved into a riot because the police arrived.

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Postby Kannap » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:24 pm

San Lumen wrote:

There is a difference between a riot and a peaceful protest


One's a riot, meaning police have already tried breaking up the protest with tear gas and brutality and people started to defend themselves from the police

One's not a riot yet, meaning police haven't started to break up the protest with tear gas and brutality yet, and people haven't had to defend themselves from the police yet
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:26 pm

Kannap wrote:
San Lumen wrote:There is a difference between a riot and a peaceful protest


One's a riot, meaning police have already tried breaking up the protest with tear gas and brutality and people started to defend themselves from the police

One's not a riot yet, meaning police haven't started to break up the protest with tear gas and brutality yet, and people haven't had to defend themselves from the police yet

Then perhaps police should stop being such assholes and call out their fellow officers.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:27 pm

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It would be better for all of us if you shut up and went somewhere else.


Blue pill it is!

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Postby Philjia » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:28 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kannap wrote:
One's a riot, meaning police have already tried breaking up the protest with tear gas and brutality and people started to defend themselves from the police

One's not a riot yet, meaning police haven't started to break up the protest with tear gas and brutality yet, and people haven't had to defend themselves from the police yet

Then perhaps police should stop being such assholes and call out their fellow officers.

Why would police forces want to hire people who might be insubordinate?

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Postby South Odreria 2 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:33 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Except they fucking were.

Where?

Bro what
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:34 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Literally any major U.S. city like Philly, L.A. Detroit, Chicago, Portland, Seattle.

I heard nothing about that. Prove it. You also think a pandemic means all rights should be signed away indefinitely and all movement completely restricted and monitored by the government.

Are you sure you’re not a republican?
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:35 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Where?

Literally any major U.S. city like Philly, L.A. Detroit, Chicago, Portland, Seattle.


Seattle wasn't broken up. Seattle is still recovering and trying to get their city back to where it was.

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Postby South Odreria 2 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:35 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Literally any major U.S. city like Philly, L.A. Detroit, Chicago, Portland, Seattle.

I heard nothing about that. Prove it. You also think a pandemic means all rights should be signed away indefinitely and all movement completely restricted and monitored by the government.

A pandemic is as good a pretext as any.
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Saint Sche Batose
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:37 pm

Post War America wrote:
San Lumen wrote:There is a difference between a riot and a peaceful protest


Not to the police there isn't.

Here's another example.


Trump told Inslee and the mayor of Seattle to grow some hair on their chest and fix their city or he would do it for them.

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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:38 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I heard nothing about that. Prove it. You also think a pandemic means all rights should be signed away indefinitely and all movement completely restricted and monitored by the government.

A pandemic is as good a pretext as any.

It's barely a pandemic. More people have died of the flu, tuberculosis, the Black Death, shall I go on?

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:39 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Literally any major U.S. city like Philly, L.A. Detroit, Chicago, Portland, Seattle.

I heard nothing about that. Prove it. You also think a pandemic means all rights should be signed away indefinitely and all movement completely restricted and monitored by the government.

Dude, pandemic response measures haven’t ushered in a totalitarian dystopia where you have no rights and are completely under government subservience, you’re being way beyond hyperbolic right now.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:41 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I heard nothing about that. Prove it. You also think a pandemic means all rights should be signed away indefinitely and all movement completely restricted and monitored by the government.

Dude, pandemic response measures haven’t ushered in a totalitarian dystopia where you have no rights and are completely under government subservience, you’re being way beyond hyperbolic right now.


Thank you. Couldn't have put it better myself.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:43 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:A pandemic is as good a pretext as any.

It's barely a pandemic. More people have died of the flu, tuberculosis, the Black Death, shall I go on?

You are raising the bar to an absurdly high degree.
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:44 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:It's barely a pandemic. More people have died of the flu, tuberculosis, the Black Death, shall I go on?

You are raising the bar to an absurdly high degree.


Not only that, but 18 million had died before Covid killed one hundred thousand people.

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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:45 pm

Saint Sche Batose wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:A pandemic is as good a pretext as any.

It's barely a pandemic. More people have died of the flu, tuberculosis, the Black Death, shall I go on?

COVID-19 is very much a global pandemic, by definition.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:45 pm

All right, polls closed in New Hampshire and Rhode Island about 30 minutes ago, and here are some calls:

Dem NH-Senate: Jeanne Shaheen
GOP NH-Governor: Chris Sununu
Dem NH-2(Concord): Ann McLane Kuster
GOP RI-2(Providence-Warwick): Robert Lancia
Dem RI-2(Providence-Warwick): James Langevin
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Postby Saint Sche Batose » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:46 pm

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:
Saint Sche Batose wrote:It's barely a pandemic. More people have died of the flu, tuberculosis, the Black Death, shall I go on?

COVID-19 is very much a global pandemic, by definition.


Didn't say I was talking about definitions, was I now?

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Postby Blargoblarg » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:47 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kannap wrote:
One's a riot, meaning police have already tried breaking up the protest with tear gas and brutality and people started to defend themselves from the police

One's not a riot yet, meaning police haven't started to break up the protest with tear gas and brutality yet, and people haven't had to defend themselves from the police yet

Then perhaps police should stop being such assholes and call out their fellow officers.

The "good" cops who do call out their fellow officers tend to get fired.
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