Greece dumps refugees in Ocean tells Turkey Deal with it

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Well at least you're open about how racist your country is toward non Greeks.

Yes, we are evil, intolerant, racists. So Greece is not a good place for refugees and migrants. So they should go to tolerant and good places.

I unironically agree that your country is full of evil, intolerant racists.

[Novus America]

For the record you are not required to integrate refugees. You can hold them, their child trans grandchildren in camps until that which makes them refugees is resolved. See UNRWA.
It might sound fucked up sure but those are the rules.

You can't. The Refugee Convention gives them the right to freedom of movement. Article 26:

Each Contracting State shall accord to refugees lawfully in its territory the right to choose their place of residence to move freely within its territory, subject to any regulations applicable to aliens generally in the same circum-stances.

UNRWA is a bad example, because they aren't working under the Refugee Convention.

Well 26 is clearly often not followed or the “regulations applicable” is a big enough loophole. True most Middle East states are not party to the convention, and Greece is.

But still you can treat them as temporary aliens, you are not required to give them citizenship or permanent residency.

[Saiwania]

Greece shall never let those people in, no matter how hard the enemies of national sovereignty contend.

[The united American-Isreali empire]

very surpriseing this happened.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Greece shall never let those people in, no matter how hard the enemies of national sovereignty contend.

I'm not surprised you would leave people adrift at sea.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Golden Dawn can get 2.93% which is a big problem for you. Don't forget the Cyprus Bloody Christmas (Real greek terror)

Golden Dawn is irrelevant now (thankfully). They are out of parliament and most people see them as what they are; a bunch of Nazi thugs.

no right of participating in a racist party elections in Turkey.

[Sao Nova Europa]

Yes, we are evil, intolerant, racists. So Greece is not a good place for refugees and migrants. So they should go to tolerant and good places.

I unironically agree that your country is full of evil, intolerant racists.

Then why you want migrants to come to this evil country?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I unironically agree that your country is full of evil, intolerant racists.

Then why you want migrants to come to this evil country?

So they can go on through toward places that aren't behind the times. Whoever said I thought they should STAY?

[Sao Nova Europa]

Golden Dawn is irrelevant now (thankfully). They are out of parliament and most people see them as what they are; a bunch of Nazi thugs.

no right of participating in a racist party elections in Turkey.

Golden Dawn is completely irrelevant in Greece now. Their support in polls is at 1%, and a split of them is at 1.5%. Not much support. People dislike them because they are nazis.

[Kowani]

Greece shall never let those people in, no matter how hard the enemies of national sovereignty contend.

A bit late on the racism today, Sai.

[Cordel One]

I'm starting to think other nations really should agree to make the amount of pity money they send to Greece dependent on how many refugees they take in.

[Sao Nova Europa]

Then why you want migrants to come to this evil country?

So they can go on through toward places that aren't behind the times. Whoever said I thought they should STAY?

We let them go north in 2015, but the Balkan route has been closed and so they cannot go to Northern Europe. Other countries in EU won't accept migrants aside from a few token. How hard is it for you to understand that other countries have refused to help us and take them in?

[Novus America]

You really think the EU would do that?

No. But they should.

Sure but they will not. For the record I do not support what Greece is doing here, I oppose open borders but you should not do this, it violates several international conventions. But I doubt much if anything will happen. The political situation in Europe is too delicate for real action.

[Saiwania]

Golden Dawn is completely irrelevant in Greece now. Their support in polls is at 1%, and a split of them is at 1.5%. Not much support. People dislike them because they are nazis.

Golden Dawn should be considered again in Greek politics, in the event that the country is forced to open up and admit people Greece doesn't have the resources for. Golden Dawn has done nothing but defend Greek values and done something against the actions Turkey and others in Europe did to disadvantage Greece.

[Mannixa Prime]

It’s so funny the mental gymnastics it must take to be the guy or girl who thinks all European based countries are racist as hell yet want hordes of middle eastern and African migrants to come in because it would be “safe”

How is that safe? Lmao


And again these same people are the ones voting for neo liberals and neoconservative who cause the population displacement in the first place.

Makes as much sense thinking sanctions and starving the Greek people is an effective PR strategy.

[Sao Nova Europa]

Golden Dawn is completely irrelevant in Greece now. Their support in polls is at 1%, and a split of them is at 1.5%. Not much support. People dislike them because they are nazis.

Golden Dawn should be considered again in Greek politics, in the event that the country is forced to open up and admit people Greece doesn't have the resources for. Golden Dawn has done nothing but defend Greek values and done something against the actions Turkey and others in Europe did to disadvantage Greece.

Golden Dawn are actual Nazis. They aren't right wing nationalists like Trump or Salvini. They are Hitlerites. Also most on the right dislike them because they indirectly supported the leftist Syriza government and attacked the conservatives constantly. That's why on the right they are widely considered collaborators of the left.

[Thermodolia]

Golden Dawn should be considered again in Greek politics, in the event that the country is forced to open up and admit people Greece doesn't have the resources for. Golden Dawn has done nothing but defend Greek values and done something against the actions Turkey and others in Europe did to disadvantage Greece.

Golden Dawn are actual Nazis. They aren't right wing nationalists like Trump or Salvini. They are Hitlerites. Also most on the right dislike them because they indirectly supported the leftist Syriza government and attacked the conservatives constantly. That's why on the right they are widely considered collaborators of the left.

My dude Sai here is a literal neo-Nazi

[Kowani]

It’s so funny the mental gymnastics it must take to be the guy or girl who thinks all European based countries are racist as hell yet want hordes of middle eastern and African migrants to come in because it would be “safe”

How is that safe? Lmao

It is safer in Europe than most of the Middle East. That does not mean Europe is perfect. But it is less bad.

And again these same people are the ones voting for neo liberals and neoconservative who cause the population displacement in the first place.

You don't know who any of us vote for.

Makes as much sense thinking sanctions and starving the Greek people is an effective PR strategy.

There's an irony in talking about PR when you were the one claiming you didn't care if 444,000 people drowned.

[Sao Nova Europa]

Golden Dawn are actual Nazis. They aren't right wing nationalists like Trump or Salvini. They are Hitlerites. Also most on the right dislike them because they indirectly supported the leftist Syriza government and attacked the conservatives constantly. That's why on the right they are widely considered collaborators of the left.

My dude Sai here is a literal neo-Nazi

Oh. I thought he was a right wing nationalist. Hadn't seen past posts of his.

[Mannixa Prime]

Greece will definitely need the Golden Dawn again most likely, if they limit their anti gay stance they would be perfect for Greece.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Golden Dawn is completely irrelevant in Greece now. Their support in polls is at 1%, and a split of them is at 1.5%. Not much support. People dislike them because they are nazis.

Golden Dawn should be considered again in Greek politics, in the event that the country is forced to open up and admit people Greece doesn't have the resources for. Golden Dawn has done nothing but defend Greek values and done something against the actions Turkey and others in Europe did to disadvantage Greece.

This is not Greek values.

Flag is sacred to Turks

[Gravlen]

You can't. The Refugee Convention gives them the right to freedom of movement. Article 26:

Each Contracting State shall accord to refugees lawfully in its territory the right to choose their place of residence to move freely within its territory, subject to any regulations applicable to aliens generally in the same circum-stances.

UNRWA is a bad example, because they aren't working under the Refugee Convention.

Well 26 is clearly often not followed or the “regulations applicable” is a big enough loophole. True most Middle East states are not party to the convention, and Greece is.

But still you can treat them as temporary aliens, you are not required to give them citizenship or permanent residency.

There is no requirement to give refugees citizenship, but there is this:

The Contracting States shall as far as possible facilitate the assimilation and naturalization of refugees. They shall in particular make every effort to expedite naturalization proceedings and to reduce as far as possible the charges and costs of such proceedings.

[Sao Nova Europa]

Greece will definitely need the Golden Dawn again most likely, if they limit their anti gay stance they would be perfect for Greece.

No, we don't. They are actual Nazis, they aren't like Trump or Salvini. I know people on the left have made the term ridiculous by overusing it, but in this case those people are actual believers in Hitler and the holocaust. Even those of us who utterly dislike illegal migration wouldn't vote for Nazis.

[Cordel One]

My dude Sai here is a literal neo-Nazi

Oh. I thought he was a right wing nationalist. Hadn't seen past posts of his.

Neo-Nazis are a subgroup of right-wing nationalists.

Greece will definitely need the Golden Dawn again most likely, if they limit their anti gay stance they would be perfect for Greece.

Aren't you supposed to be a progressive?

[Kowani]

Oh. I thought he was a right wing nationalist. Hadn't seen past posts of his.

Neo-Nazis are a subgroup of right-wing nationalists.

Greece will definitely need the Golden Dawn again most likely, if they limit their anti gay stance they would be perfect for Greece.

Aren't you supposed to be a progressive?

Mate forgot where he was and went mask off.