Greece dumps refugees in Ocean tells Turkey Deal with it

[Mannixa Prime]

[How is that relevant to the discussion

It goes to how much responsibility your nation has for the issues in the Middle East. So answer.

Or what?

[Thermodolia]

Kowani, if Greece doesn't want them then nobody has any right to force them to accept the migrants.

Unfortunately for the intransigents, Greece is legally bound to do so.

Greece could have pawned them off on other European nations but several of those nations said “fuck that, the refugees are your problem”

[Cordel One]

Sorry hunnies you can fantasize about super tolerant UN troops and heavy handed sanctions breaking the will of the Greek people it just will not happen.

They see what goes on in Western Europe. Enough said.

No one wants UN troops to do anything. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs".

[Novus America]

For the record you are not required to integrate refugees. You can hold them, their child trans grandchildren in camps until that which makes them refugees is resolved. See UNRWA.
It might sound fucked up sure but those are the rules.

Well, yes. But what you cannot do is what Greece is doing, which is expulsion of refugees when their claims aren't processed yet (and for obvious reasons, the cause isn't resolved either.)

Fair point.

[Sao Nova Europa]

Exactly. So send them to other countries that are tolerant, good and nice.

Well at least you're open about how racist your country is toward non Greeks.

Yes, we are evil, intolerant, racists. So Greece is not a good place for refugees and migrants. So they should go to tolerant and good places.

[Thermodolia]

Well it’s kinda hard for the US to take refugees from the Middle East considering that they have to cross an ocean

America knows how to send troops to kill people to the Middle East

And most refugees aren’t going to wait until they have enough money to fly to take a week long boat ride to the USA when they can go to Europe

[Borderlands of Rojava]

It goes to how much responsibility your nation has for the issues in the Middle East. So answer.

Or what?

Why are you so hesitant to just answer one question?

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Where are you from? Your country should help first. How many refugees live in your home ? Greece shouldn't be Europe's toy !

The U.S. should absolutely help, especially since we're one of the main reasons things ever got so bad in the first place.

@Novus America

[Sao Nova Europa]

Unfortunately for the intransigents, Greece is legally bound to do so.

Greece could have pawned them off on other European nations but several of those nations said “fuck that, the refugees are your problem”

Indeed, so we said, "we will solve the problem in our way."

[Thermodolia]

So? What will they do? Lawsuits can, and have, been ignored if needed.

If Greece doesn't respect the rule of law, its citizens should be concerned and it should be kicked out of the EU.

The EU is slow to act when it comes to such things. Like Poland

[Mannixa Prime]

Or what?

Why are you so hesitant to just answer one question?

Why are you so hesitant to gee idk mind your own business

[Thermodolia]

Or what?

Why are you so hesitant to just answer one question?

A lot of people aren’t Comfortable with revealing their nation

[Gravlen]

Cause is immaterial. They are in Greece, and they are on your doorstep. The migrants will not be abated until the causes that push them to leave end. There are two paths ahead for Greece: Accept them and help integrate them into Greek culture, or push them all out and stand alone. And Greece is not strong enough to stand on its own.

For the record you are not required to integrate refugees. You can hold them, their child trans grandchildren in camps until that which makes them refugees is resolved. See UNRWA.
It might sound fucked up sure but those are the rules.

You can't. The Refugee Convention gives them the right to freedom of movement. Article 26:

Each Contracting State shall accord to refugees lawfully in its territory the right to choose their place of residence to move freely within its territory, subject to any regulations applicable to aliens generally in the same circum-stances.

UNRWA is a bad example, because they aren't working under the Refugee Convention.

[Novus America]

The U.S. should absolutely help, especially since we're one of the main reasons things ever got so bad in the first place.

@Novus America

What did I do? I actually am not the collective representation of the US. Just someone who plays an alternative history near future US and makes (often snarky) commentary on various subjects.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Why are you so hesitant to just answer one question?

Why are you so hesitant to gee idk mind your own business

Well soooooooorry. You want an apology for that?

[Republic of Cancun]

oh no no no no

[Gravlen]

If Greece doesn't respect the rule of law, its citizens should be concerned and it should be kicked out of the EU.

lol Like they kicked Hungary and Poland?

Like they should have, yes.

[Gravlen]

If Greece doesn't respect the rule of law, its citizens should be concerned and it should be kicked out of the EU.

You really think the EU would do that?

No. But they should.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Well at least you're open about how racist your country is toward non Greeks.

Yes, we are evil, intolerant, racists. So Greece is not a good place for refugees and migrants. So they should go to tolerant and good places.

Golden Dawn can get 2.93% which is a big problem for you. Don't forget the Cyprus Bloody Christmas (Real greek terror)

[Kowani]

Greece could have pawned them off on other European nations but several of those nations said “fuck that, the refugees are your problem”

Indeed, so we said, "f*** you, we will solve the problem in our way."

Yet you're still seeing increases. Funny how that works.

[Cordel One]

Well at least you're open about how racist your country is toward non Greeks.

Yes, we are evil, intolerant, racists. So Greece is not a good place for refugees and migrants. So they should go to tolerant and good places.

If Greece is as selfish as you claim it is maybe they should stop relying on other nations' pity to bail them out of the financial crisis.

[Mannixa Prime]

Why are you so hesitant to gee idk mind your own business

Well soooooooorry. You want an apology for that?

I would rather you don’t engage with my posts by asking meaningless questions.
Like I mentioned before to the others accusing me of wanting to let people die or asking abo r my vacation habits we probably shouldn’t talk.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Well soooooooorry. You want an apology for that?

I would rather you don’t engage with my posts by asking meaningless questions.
Like I mentioned before to the others accusing me of wanting to let people die or asking abo r my vacation habits we probably shouldn’t talk.

k fam.

[Sao Nova Europa]

Yes, we are evil, intolerant, racists. So Greece is not a good place for refugees and migrants. So they should go to tolerant and good places.

Golden Dawn can get 2.93% which is a big problem for you. Don't forget the Cyprus Bloody Christmas (Real greek terror)

Golden Dawn is irrelevant now (thankfully). They are out of parliament and most people see them as what they are; a bunch of Nazi thugs.

[TRIEADMORE]

Pretty much genocide.But we can put the blame entirely on Greece’s new conservative government. The migrants humanitarian and human rights have been violated. Greece has a responsibility to observe basic human rights and help them out.