Greece dumps refugees in Ocean tells Turkey Deal with it

[Atheris]

That's truly hell. You better apologize, Sniffage.

That's Fart Sniffage to you.

Eh, I've had three happy hours with the guy. I feel like I can talk to him on a last-name basis at this point.

[Thermodolia]

I’ll take my chances surviving in the vactican (I haven’t been so I can’t give an accurate answer but again I’ll take my chances)

I can travel and be openly gay in the UK and Ireland so I don’t know what your point is.

You can't travel in the UK and Ireland, there's a pandemic.

Thank you mr pedantic.

[Marxist Germany]

How do the boats work just fine without engines when crossing borders illegally?

You clearly didn't read the article. You should read stuff, it makes you sound less dumb when you say dumb things having not read the article.

The boats being abandoned are either having their engines removed or their fuel drained. That's not a boat, that's a crap life raft.

You missed my point.

[The Reformed American Republic]

If they find themselves agreeing with what the modern left believes to be fascists they're right where they should be.

Damn leftists, out here saying "Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana" is a fascist. It's not like they said they support fascism right in their sig-- oh wait.

Your statement to me was still out of line. I disagree with fascists such as that poster more than I agree with them.

[Cordel One]

Damn leftists, out here saying "Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana" is a fascist. It's not like they said they support fascism right in their sig-- oh wait.

I believe Fedel was referring to Turkey.

They were talking about something I said to RAR after they agreed with a fascist.

Damn leftists, out here saying "Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana" is a fascist. It's not like they said they support fascism right in their sig-- oh wait.

Your statement to me was still out of line. I disagree with fascists such as that poster more than I agree with them.

I'm not talking about your general views (though I think you have more in common than you know), I'm talking about your support of this issue.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

People keep repeating the 'dumping people on the sea' lie, even though the (less than credible) article itself doesn't state that. Escorting boats back to Turkish territorial waters isn't the same as throwing people on sea.

Also, people keep ignoring that one of the migrants interviewed stated that they had tried to travel to Greece four times, and were returned back to Turkish territorial waters where they were taken back to Turkey. If they were on sea and drowning, they wouldn't have tried it three more times.

Turkey has taken in more refugees by Greece and it was a mistake, put aside your hypocritical thoughts and talk about how we can get people to their country.

[Thermodolia]

I’ll take my chances surviving in the vactican (I haven’t been so I can’t give an accurate answer but again I’ll take my chances)

I can travel and be openly gay in the UK and Ireland so I don’t know what your point is.

The UK literally has a state religion while Ireland doesn't have a state religion but 78.3% of the population is Catholic.

The UK state religion means jack and shit.

[Gravlen]

People keep repeating the 'dumping people on the sea' lie, even though the (less than credible) article itself doesn't state that. Escorting boats back to Turkish territorial waters isn't the same as throwing people on sea.

“It was very inhumane,” said Najma al-Khatib, a 50-year-old Syrian teacher, who says masked Greek officials took her and 22 others, including two babies, under cover of darkness from a detention center on the island of Rhodes on July 26 and abandoned them in a rudderless, motorless life raft before they were rescued by the Turkish Coast Guard.

Migrants landing on the Greek islands from Turkey have frequently been forced onto sometimes leaky, inflatable life rafts, dropped at the boundary between Turkish and Greek waters, and left to drift until being spotted and rescued by the Turkish Coast Guard.

Your description does not match the article.

[Fedel]

That's Fart Sniffage to you.

Eh, I've had three happy hours with the guy. I feel like I can talk to him on a last-name basis at this point.

Ngl, that's kind of cute.

[Aureumterra]

Europe is supposed to submit to Turkish dominance and ploys.

If you find yourself agreeing with fascists you might want to rethink your positions.

That makes no sense. Fascists believe in national sovereignty, Irish Republicans believe in the same, so they need to rethink their poisiton?

[Fartsniffage]

You clearly didn't read the article. You should read stuff, it makes you sound less dumb when you say dumb things having not read the article.

The boats being abandoned are either having their engines removed or their fuel drained. That's not a boat, that's a crap life raft.

You missed my point.

I didn't. You're just apparently okay with abandoning people at sea. No civilised nation does that.

[Dresderstan]

The UK literally has a state religion while Ireland doesn't have a state religion but 78.3% of the population is Catholic.

The UK state religion means jack and shit.

And this isn't the middle ages where the British burned you at the stake or discriminated you for not being Anglican, like what they did to the Catholics... or their wars with France.

[Atheris]

I believe Fedel was referring to Turkey.

They were talking about something I said to RAR after they agreed with a fascist.

My bad, then.

If you find yourself agreeing with fascists you might want to rethink your positions.

That makes no sense. Fascists believe in national sovereignty, Irish Republicans believe in the same, so they need to rethink their poisiton?

Fascists believe in corporatism! So do syndicalists! Jack Reed was Hitler confirmed!

[Marxist Germany]

You missed my point.

I didn't. You're just apparently okay with abandoning people at sea. No civilised nation does that.

The people willingly risk their lives to commit crimes.

[Fartsniffage]

Eh, I've had three happy hours with the guy. I feel like I can talk to him on a last-name basis at this point.

Ngl, that's kind of cute.

It starts at 8pm BST this Saturday. You're welcome to join. If your opinions are too offensive you will be mocked but not kicked. And you need to be of drinking age in your country or at least nearly of drinking age.

[Gravlen]

Because they've enshrined their obligations in domestic law.


Personal liability, criminal prosecution, conviction for rights violations, things of that nature.


Why are you so fixated on international law while pretending domestic law doesn't exist?

These “domestic laws” and legislation aren’t even being writen by actual Greeks

You're wrong again. They were written by actual, real life Greeks.

and like like any law, especially when it’s neo liberal bullshit can be changed.

Yes. But they haven't been.

[Atheris]

Ngl, that's kind of cute.

It starts at 8pm BST this Saturday. You're welcome to join. If your opinions are too offensive you will be mocked but not kicked. And you need to be of drinking age in your country or at least nearly of drinking age.

Or you can be like me, and just use water instead!

[Thermodolia]

They were talking about something I said to RAR after they agreed with a fascist.

My bad, then.

That makes no sense. Fascists believe in national sovereignty, Irish Republicans believe in the same, so they need to rethink their poisiton?

Fascists believe in corporatism! So do syndicalists! Jack Reed was Hitler confirmed!

Hitler supported animal rights and was vegetarian! That means PETA and vegans are NAZIS!

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Europe is supposed to submit to Turkish dominance and ploys.

If you find yourself agreeing with fascists you might want to rethink your positions.

Hello

[Cordel One]

I didn't. You're just apparently okay with abandoning people at sea. No civilised nation does that.

The people willingly risk their lives to commit crimes.

Not all laws are moral or just.

If you find yourself agreeing with fascists you might want to rethink your positions.

Hello

Hello from the polar opposite of your views

[Fartsniffage]

I didn't. You're just apparently okay with abandoning people at sea. No civilised nation does that.

The people willingly risk their lives to commit crimes.

And even pirates used to be rescued if they foundered at sea. Then you try them on land. You're literally advocating for abandoning people at sea. What is wrong with you?

[Thermodolia]

Ngl, that's kind of cute.

It starts at 8pm BST this Saturday. You're welcome to join. If your opinions are too offensive you will be mocked but not kicked. And you need to be of drinking age in your country or at least nearly of drinking age.

Please be warned that things can get crazy. And that there are two drunkards

[Atheris]

My bad, then.


Fascists believe in corporatism! So do syndicalists! Jack Reed was Hitler confirmed!

Hitler supported animal rights and was vegetarian! That means PETA and vegans are NAZIS!

Karl Marx was an anti-semitic, anti-slavic German! So was Hitler! MARXISTS ARE NAZIS!

(sidenote: PETA absolutely should be treated like how we treat nazis today minus the physical abuse but that's for a different thread)

[Sao Nova Europa]

These “domestic laws” and legislation aren’t even being writen by actual Greeks

You're wrong again. They were written by actual, real life Greeks.

and like like any law, especially when it’s neo liberal bullshit can be changed.

Yes. But they haven't been.

Who cares? The people and the government are in agreement that this Turkish-instigated invasion cannot continue, so Greece has take the appropriate measures. What are you going to do? Call the UN to invade us with their non existent army? Or do you think Greeks who overwhelmingly agree with the government will do something?

[Mannixa Prime]

These “domestic laws” and legislation aren’t even being writen by actual Greeks

You're wrong again. They were written by actual, real life Greeks.

and like like any law, especially when it’s neo liberal bullshit can be changed.

Yes. But they haven't been.

Anyone who erodes Greek sovereignty and culture isn’t Greek. Even if the laws haven’t changed the Greek people or any European people has zero responsibility for taking care of criminals fleeing from barbaric lands because of wars the neo liberal elite started. What your advocating for is basically be a corporate bootlicker or.... or there will be vague consequences!