Greece dumps refugees in Ocean tells Turkey Deal with it

[Crockerland]

The US should be ready to support Greece if the EU takes any action against them for not wanting to be invaded.

[Sao Nova Europa]

About German reparations and debt, it is mostly a talking point of the populist left (Syriza) and right (ANEL). The debt was mostly incurred due to the fiscal irresponsibility of previous Greek governments (both conservative and socialist). The current ND administration is committed to implementing structural reforms, and has already proceeded with speeding up digitization of the public administration, legislating business-friendly laws and cutting taxes while also moving in the direction of privatizations. ND has always been a pro-EU party. Greece is fulfilling its obligations to the lenders (and rightly so). But I am not exactly sure what this has to do with everything else on this thread.

[Dollystana]

Dumping 1000 people into the Mediterranean Sea isnt mass murder?

Not if they don't die, but are instead forced back to Turkey.

Is it so hard to accept different cultures that we need to rid your country of them?

[National Bolshevik America]

The Greek people have right to decide who enters and leaves their nation. They have right to protect their nation.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Not if they don't die, but are instead forced back to Turkey.

Is it so hard to accept different cultures that we need to rid your country of them?

The Greek economy is the main reason. It's not doing so well and the country isn't gifted with near infinite resources.

[-AMERlCA-]

The speed in which people can defend letting other people drown is horrific.

Greece has no responsibility for people trying to illegally enter their territory so far as I can tell. They're on their own in international waters. If the globe gets too hot and there are waves of people moving to colder regions, I can guarantee that Russia or where ever else wouldn't do any better.

There are no international waters in the Mediterranean.

i mean its legal, it was outside the EEZ wasnt it?

[Dollystana]

I love the folks here who are just like "ohh, well someone can get them idc." It's cool because it shows us you don't see them as human beings, and that's definitely normal behavior and totally not a sign of being a maladjusted person.

Anywaysssss, this is a deplorable action and certainly could very well lead to unnecessary loss of innocent lives, really just callousness for the sake of callousness. Though, it's not a genocide. But human rights abuses are still human rights abuses, and should still be condemned wholeheartedly.

I agree

[Sao Nova Europa]

Not if they don't die, but are instead forced back to Turkey.

Is it so hard to accept different cultures that we need to rid your country of them?

We simply do not want multiculturalism. Greece is a nation-state, it isn't a multicultural state like Canada, Australia or the United States. It is as simple as that. We can of course accept migrants if we want to, but we will do it in a legal and organized manner and with the numbers we want.

[Telconi]

About German reparations and debt, it is mostly a talking point of the populist left (Syriza) and right (ANEL). The debt was mostly incurred due to the fiscal irresponsibility of previous Greek governments (both conservative and socialist). The current ND administration is committed to implementing structural reforms, and has already proceeded with speeding up digitization of the public administration, legislating business-friendly laws and cutting taxes while also moving in the direction of privatizations. ND has always been a pro-EU party. Greece is fulfilling its obligations to the lenders (and rightly so). But I am not exactly sure what this has to do with everything else on this thread.

The assumption, I think, Is that Greece's reaction to refugees is due to their already shaky financial situation. If Greece was more economically stable and not already relying on foreign help, they might be less hostile towards these people.

[Nazeroth]

Leftist here upset that greece isnt becoming an diverse islamic arab state

Sorry Greece dosnt want them and no amount of tweeting or pretending to care will change that. Your “diversity” and “inclusion” is cultural, economic and demographic suicide

Now get mad and call people bigots and racists.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Is it so hard to accept different cultures that we need to rid your country of them?

We simply do not want multiculturalism. Greece is a nation-state, it isn't a multicultural state like Canada, Australia or the United States. It is as simple as that. We can of course accept migrants if we want to, but we will do it in a legal and organized manner and with the numbers we want.

I think economics also contributes as well

[Kowani]

Gonna want a link on any of that data, mate.

https://migration.gov.gr/deltio-typoy-apantisi-se-dimosieymata-xenoy-typoy/

Interesting how the geek government would just lie about their days like that.

[Salus Maior]

As many as it takes, given that a unified German state still exists, at least one more is needed.

You can blame Napoleon I for that one, I guess. And Wilson for not letting Clemenceau do his Thing

Tbh, Austria should have won the Austro-Prussian war.

But this is all aside from the discussion.

[Kowani]

Leftist here upset that greece isnt becoming an diverse islamic arab state

Sorry Greece dosnt want them and no amount of tweeting or pretending to care will change that. Your “diversity” and “inclusion” is cultural, economic and demographic suicide

Now get mad and call people bigots and racists.

Buddy, there’s a difference between “want more migrants” and “don’t dump people on the ocean”, your closet racism aside.

[Sao Nova Europa]

We simply do not want multiculturalism. Greece is a nation-state, it isn't a multicultural state like Canada, Australia or the United States. It is as simple as that. We can of course accept migrants if we want to, but we will do it in a legal and organized manner and with the numbers we want.

I think economics also contributes as well

It does. We have limited resources and high unemployment, so it isn't like we can cope with endless waves of migrants. But even if we weren't in financial crisis, the vast majority of Greeks wouldn't accept Greece being forced to become multicultural.

[Pilipinas and Malaya]

They're in boats and intended to be picked up by the Turks. Which, as far as I can tell, they have been.

You could call it negligence at the very worst.

This ^^

Pretty much. While Greece’s actions of just generally leaving them out in the sea is rather deplorable, I don’t exactly see it as mass murder or genocide. Genocide is definitely not the most apt term as well.

[Nazeroth]

Leftist here upset that greece isnt becoming an diverse islamic arab state

Sorry Greece dosnt want them and no amount of tweeting or pretending to care will change that. Your “diversity” and “inclusion” is cultural, economic and demographic suicide

Now get mad and call people bigots and racists.

Buddy, there’s a difference between “want more migrants” and “don’t dump people on the ocean”, your closet racism aside.

Not really its all the same bullcrap

Flood the third world in and when the rapes and terror increase pretend its just evil western nationalism.

[Salus Maior]

Leftist here upset that greece isnt becoming an diverse islamic arab state

Sorry Greece dosnt want them and no amount of tweeting or pretending to care will change that. Your “diversity” and “inclusion” is cultural, economic and demographic suicide

Now get mad and call people bigots and racists.

Buddy, there’s a difference between “want more migrants” and “don’t dump people on the ocean”, your closet racism aside.

Where is Greece supposed to put unwanted migrants, then?

As stated before, they can't just land boats on Turkish soil.

[The Reformed American Republic]

I think economics also contributes as well

It does. We have limited resources and high unemployment, so it isn't like we can cope with endless waves of migrants. But even if we weren't in financial crisis, the vast majority of Greeks wouldn't accept Greece being forced to become multicultural.

I share that sentiment to be honest, and I'm am American. No one should be forced to live with a contradictory culture.

[Sao Nova Europa]

It should also be noted that Greece has plenty of (patriotic) native Muslim Greeks in Thrace, and they are part of our culture and nation. So it isn't about religion but about culture.

[Pilipinas and Malaya]

Leftist here upset that greece isnt becoming an diverse islamic arab state

Sorry Greece dosnt want them and no amount of tweeting or pretending to care will change that. Your “diversity” and “inclusion” is cultural, economic and demographic suicide

Now get mad and call people bigots and racists.

Buddy, there’s a difference between “want more migrants” and “don’t dump people on the ocean”, your closet racism aside.

This as well. I’m pretty sure at many of us in this thread have not demanded that Greece take in the migrants/refugees.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Buddy, there’s a difference between “want more migrants” and “don’t dump people on the ocean”, your closet racism aside.

Where is Greece supposed to put unwanted migrants, then?

As stated before, they can't just land boats on Turkish soil.

He wants to create a moral argument that de facto forces people to say "we will accept more refugees." No other position will be tolerated.

[Kowani]

Buddy, there’s a difference between “want more migrants” and “don’t dump people on the ocean”, your closet racism aside.

Not really its all the same bullcrap

Flood the third world in and when the rapes and terror increase pretend its just evil western nationalism.

Oh, it’s not even closet.

But the data would show that immigrants do not, in fact, increase crime rates in Europe, so please use actual facts.

[Crockerland]

Leftist here upset that greece isnt becoming an diverse islamic arab state

Sorry Greece dosnt want them and no amount of tweeting or pretending to care will change that. Your “diversity” and “inclusion” is cultural, economic and demographic suicide

Now get mad and call people bigots and racists.

It's insane how, once you get woke enough, you can say with a straight face that people are bigots if they don't want to mass import an ideology that calls for gay/bisexual people, Jews, polytheists, atheists, and anyone who leaves said ideology to be brutally murdered, and legitimately see no issue with that belief.

[North German Realm]

You can blame Napoleon I for that one, I guess. And Wilson for not letting Clemenceau do his Thing

Tbh, Austria should have won the Austro-Prussian war.

But this is all aside from the discussion.

Some believe Prussia was punching above its weight in the two main Wars of German Unification. I personally believe it wasn't punching well enough. Austria had lost the war even before it started lmao.