by Greed and Death » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:43 am
by Post War America » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:45 am
Greed and Death wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/14/world/europe/greece-migrants-abandoning-sea.html
Greece is abandoning 1000 plus migrants at sea. These are migrants that were on dry land in Greece they were taken to international waters and dumped with a life jacket on. I am sorry if this OP is sparse I am just at a loss for words at the moment. Even my most in character antics do not approach dump a thousand people at sea.
What sort of sanctions can we bring to bear against Greece to stop this.
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by Saiwania » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:57 am
by Bear Stearns » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:01 am
by Greed and Death » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:02 am
Loben III wrote:Greece has no responsibility and turkey is close enough to travel too. Hardly abandonment.
by Loben III » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:03 am
Greed and Death wrote:Loben III wrote:Greece has no responsibility and turkey is close enough to travel too. Hardly abandonment.
Driving them to Turkey is one thing dumping them at sea and hoping the Turkish coast guard saves them is another.
Greece has a responsibility to not dump them off in the ocean.
by Mathuvan Union » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:03 am
by Nazeroth » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:04 am
Greed and Death wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/14/world/europe/greece-migrants-abandoning-sea.html
Greece is abandoning 1000 plus migrants at sea. These are migrants that were on dry land in Greece they were taken to international waters and dumped with a life jacket on. I am sorry if this OP is sparse I am just at a loss for words at the moment. Even my most in character antics do not approach dump a thousand people at sea.
What sort of sanctions can we bring to bear against Greece to stop this.
by Kathol Rift » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:05 am
by Pilipinas and Malaya » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:06 am
Loben III wrote:Greece has no responsibility and turkey is close enough to travel too. Hardly abandonment.
Saiwania wrote:Greece has no responsibility for people trying to illegally enter their territory so far as I can tell. They're on their own in international waters. If the globe gets too hot and there are waves of people moving to colder regions, I can guarantee that Russia or where ever else wouldn't do any better.
Bear Stearns wrote:"genocide" lol ok
by Nazeroth » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:08 am
Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:Loben III wrote:Greece has no responsibility and turkey is close enough to travel too. Hardly abandonment.Saiwania wrote:Greece has no responsibility for people trying to illegally enter their territory so far as I can tell. They're on their own in international waters. If the globe gets too hot and there are waves of people moving to colder regions, I can guarantee that Russia or where ever else wouldn't do any better.
Article says that this is violation of international law. That is not concerning enough? Leaving them to the same journey that they likely experienced a while back, which many are already aware is rather perilous.Bear Stearns wrote:"genocide" lol ok
Yeah, I agree. While what Greece has done is a gross violation of the rights of the migrants as humans to safe shelter, genocide doesn’t cover the term.
OP, I suggest you change the title of the thread.
by Loben III » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:09 am
Nazeroth wrote:Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:
Article says that this is violation of international law. That is not concerning enough? Leaving them to the same journey that they likely experienced a while back, which many are already aware is rather perilous.
Yeah, I agree. While what Greece has done is a gross violation of the rights of the migrants as humans to safe shelter, genocide doesn’t cover the term.
OP, I suggest you change the title of the thread.
"international law" is a hilariously bad joke, like when the Saudi's were on the human rights panel.
by Nazeroth » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:09 am
by Heloin » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:12 am
Saiwania wrote:Greece has no responsibility for people trying to illegally enter their territory so far as I can tell. They're on their own in international waters. If the globe gets too hot and there are waves of people moving to colder regions, I can guarantee that Russia or where ever else wouldn't do any better.
by Saiwania » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:14 am
Nazeroth wrote:"international law" is a hilariously bad joke, like when the Saudi's were on the human rights panel.
by Pilipinas and Malaya » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:15 am
Nazeroth wrote:Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:
Article says that this is violation of international law. That is not concerning enough? Leaving them to the same journey that they likely experienced a while back, which many are already aware is rather perilous.
Yeah, I agree. While what Greece has done is a gross violation of the rights of the migrants as humans to safe shelter, genocide doesn’t cover the term.
OP, I suggest you change the title of the thread.
"international law" is a hilariously bad joke, like when the Saudi's were on the human rights panel.
by Andsed » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:15 am
by Mathuvan Union » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:16 am
Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:Mathuvan Union wrote:no. they're illegal immigrants.
Even if they are illegal immigrants, there are better options, like turning or driving them away at Turkey instead of leaving them to drift away at sea, their fate at the hands of the ocean if they lack an engine.
As humans, these people still have a right to be treated decently, especially if they have done no crime (except for the illegal immigration). One would think they’d be better off at Greece because there they have not much concern about the security of the location, whether or not an air raid is to happen there and if food and water would be easily accessible.Nazeroth wrote:
"international law" is a hilariously bad joke, like when the Saudi's were on the human rights panel.
In the very least, at least it exists and is enforced in some form and there are quite a lot of people who would wish for a better implementation of such. Unlike Saudi Arabia, which as mentioned didn’t really have a good track record of implementing such rights.
by Nazeroth » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:17 am
Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:Mathuvan Union wrote:no. they're illegal immigrants.
Even if they are illegal immigrants, there are better options, like turning or driving them away at Turkey instead of leaving them to drift away at sea, their fate at the hands of the ocean if they lack an engine.
As humans, these people still have a right to be treated decently, especially if they have done no crime (except for the illegal immigration). One would think they’d be better off at Greece because there they have not much concern about the security of the location, whether or not an air raid is to happen there and if food and water would be easily accessible.Nazeroth wrote:
"international law" is a hilariously bad joke, like when the Saudi's were on the human rights panel.
In the very least, at least it exists and is enforced in some form and there are quite a lot of people who would wish for a better implementation of such. Unlike Saudi Arabia, which as mentioned didn’t really have a good track record of implementing such rights.
by Pilipinas and Malaya » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:17 am
Heloin wrote:The speed in which people can defend letting other people drown is horrific.Saiwania wrote:Greece has no responsibility for people trying to illegally enter their territory so far as I can tell. They're on their own in international waters. If the globe gets too hot and there are waves of people moving to colder regions, I can guarantee that Russia or where ever else wouldn't do any better.
There are no international waters in the Mediterranean.
by Mathuvan Union » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:18 am
by Nazeroth » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:18 am
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