YouTube Remonetizes Steven Crowder

[Giovenith]

A reminder to you all that the topic of this thread is not capitalism, communism, or any other ideology, it is YouTube policy and Steven Crowder. Please try to direct the conversation back to relevant discourse.

What does a CEO do that "earns" an order of magnitude more money than the people who are the boots on the ground?

Because it's about experience and risk. Any slob can work in an Amazon factory, but it takes a special kind of skill to be a titan of industry like Jeff Bezos. This is why Jeff Bezos is much better compensated than the average slob. This is also why surgeons are paid more than slobs working in Target, because a surgeon requires much more training and much more skill.

It takes luck and parasitism, not skill.

Amazon is as successful as it is because of Bezos's leadership, and Amazon is a net benefit to society that provides goods cheaply, quickly and efficiently. I'll wait for you to start a Fortune 500 company or study for twelve years to become a surgeon.

But obviously you're not incentivised to do anything of substance with your life, so what's the point?

Who cares what people call you? Most adults just pick themselves up and move along. How does it hurt you to be called a "lispy queer". Only manchildren get angry about stuff like that.

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You might have gotten away with being borderline with "Any slob can work there," but directly referring to people who do work retail as slobs is not acceptable. Taking potshots at people who do not want slurs at hurled at them is also not kosher here.

BIG LOL

Did you read the article or did you just post it thinking you got me? It's about the Marxist theory of how capitalists view commodities and labor.
It's a critique you absolute buffoon

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[Liriena]

It's not an excuse. It's context. If the argument is that something is inherently wrong with the far left because violence is a necessary means to its ends, it kind of follows that almost all great political movements in human history have at some point had the same problem. It's just that some were so successful in their initial revolutionary violence that they almost never needed to resort to it again.

And our argument is that you are wrong, there is indeed something wrong with the far left because of it. Just as there is something wrong with every ideology that openly espouses goals that can only be met with violence and has supporters who openly hold the view that the ends justify the means.

Alright, then we're gonna have to cancel every major contemporary political movement. Because every single one has some amount of unecessary blood on their hands.

Time to embrace Taoism I guess?

As far as I am concerned violence is as a tool of politics only permissible if it is literally used to stave off starvation, slavery or something on the same level of existential threat. That is why I for example hold the Russian revolution to be justified. The people were literally starving. At that point it's fine to let some blood flow.

Oh... ok, that's reasonable.

[Liriena]

Anyway, Crowder is a pissbaby bully but, honestly, Youtube was never going to be, like, a comrade in the fight against his bullshit. The best way to make Crowder run and hide in fear is to challenge him to an actual debate between equals... or punch him in the face, if you're a very annoyed union leader.

[Purpelia]

Oh... ok, that's reasonable.

Which is why I find the far left, far right and any other ideology that promotes political violence to be utterly unreasonable in the day, age and place that we are. That being a modern western society where the begging poor can still afford mobile phones, have access to healthcare and generally are better off than the average worker 50-100 years ago. And where the average worker lives a comfortable, if still exploited life. Calling for change is fine. I am calling for change. But we are simply not bad enough off to justify going for violence be that literal or in the form of censorship and political pressure to blacklist, demonetize and generally ruin people you disagree with.

Which is why I disagree with youtube having an ideological agenda and demonetizing channels based on it.

[Des-Bal]

Anyway, Crowder is a pissbaby bully but, honestly, Youtube was never going to be, like, a comrade in the fight against his bullshit. The best way to make Crowder run and hide in fear is to challenge him to an actual debate between equals... or punch him in the face, if you're a very annoyed union leader.

According to Liriena Steven Crowder is intellectually superior toJess Herbst, DL Hughley, Naomi Wolf among others.

Your best argument was using violence to suppress dissent, color me shocked.

[-Ra-]

Anyway, Crowder is a pissbaby bully but, honestly, Youtube was never going to be, like, a comrade in the fight against his bullshit. The best way to make Crowder run and hide in fear is to challenge him to an actual debate between equals... or punch him in the face, if you're a very annoyed union leader.

According to Liriena Steven Crowder is intellectually superior toJess Herbst, DL Hughley, Naomi Wolf among others.

Your best argument was using violence to suppress dissent, color me shocked.

So much for tolerance.

[Liriena]

According to Liriena Steven Crowder is intellectually superior toJess Herbst, DL Hughley, Naomi Wolf among others.

Your best argument was using violence to suppress dissent, color me shocked.

So much for tolerance.

Tolerance is overrated.

[Liriena]

Anyway, Crowder is a pissbaby bully but, honestly, Youtube was never going to be, like, a comrade in the fight against his bullshit. The best way to make Crowder run and hide in fear is to challenge him to an actual debate between equals... or punch him in the face, if you're a very annoyed union leader.

According to Liriena Steven Crowder is intellectually superior toJess Herbst, DL Hughley, Naomi Wolf among others.

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Your best argument was using violence to suppress dissent, color me shocked.

For someone who's coming in "totally real comedian" Crowder's defense you sure don't seem to get what jokes are.

[Des-Bal]

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For someone who's coming in "totally real comedian" Crowder's defense you sure don't seem to get what jokes are.

I listed three educated and politically active people Crowder has debated with. He tries to debate people and he doesn't seem to wilt when they know what they're talking about.

Your joke was that physically attacking Steven Crowder would be an effective means of defeating him. That is something people say and defend without irony quite often. You're going to have to draw a clearer line between your bad jokes and bad opinions.

[Outer Sparta]

According to Liriena Steven Crowder is intellectually superior toJess Herbst, DL Hughley, Naomi Wolf among others.

Your best argument was using violence to suppress dissent, color me shocked.

So much for tolerance.

Do you support an intolerant guy like Crowder?

[Soiled fruit roll ups]

Anyway, Crowder is a pissbaby bully but, honestly, Youtube was never going to be, like, a comrade in the fight against his bullshit. The best way to make Crowder run and hide in fear is to challenge him to an actual debate between equals... or punch him in the face, if you're a very annoyed union leader.

I thought advocating violence was a no no here?

[Liriena]

Anyway, Crowder is a pissbaby bully but, honestly, Youtube was never going to be, like, a comrade in the fight against his bullshit. The best way to make Crowder run and hide in fear is to challenge him to an actual debate between equals... or punch him in the face, if you're a very annoyed union leader.

I thought advocating violence was a no no here?

I'm not "advocating". I'm making a joke based on something that actually happened: Crowder provoked a bunch of union guys during a demonstration until one of them retaliated.

[Soiled fruit roll ups]

I thought advocating violence was a no no here?

I'm not "advocating". I'm making a joke based on something that actually happened: Crowder provoked a bunch of union guys during a demonstration until one of them retaliated.

That wasn't clear.

[Liriena]

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For someone who's coming in "totally real comedian" Crowder's defense you sure don't seem to get what jokes are.

I listed three educated and politically active people Crowder has debated with. He tries to debate people and he doesn't seem to wilt when they know what they're talking about.

And yet he has repeatedly chickened out of debating Sam Seder, like many other right-wing grifters.

Your joke was that physically attacking Steven Crowder would be an effective means of defeating him. That is something people say and defend without irony quite often. You're going to have to draw a clearer line between your bad jokes and bad opinions.

That's very sweet of you.

[Liriena]

I'm not "advocating". I'm making a joke based on something that actually happened: Crowder provoked a bunch of union guys during a demonstration until one of them retaliated.

That wasn't clear.

Ok

[Outer Acharet]

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For someone who's coming in "totally real comedian" Crowder's defense you sure don't seem to get what jokes are.

I listed three educated and politically active people Crowder has debated with. He tries to debate people and he doesn't seem to wilt when they know what they're talking about.

Your joke was that physically attacking Steven Crowder would be an effective means of defeating him. That is something people say and defend without irony quite often. You're going to have to draw a clearer line between your bad jokes and bad opinions.

Well, not to condone it, but physically attacking anyone is usually an effective means of defeating them. They can't debate you knocked out cold.

[Rusozak]

Anyway, Crowder is a pissbaby bully but, honestly, Youtube was never going to be, like, a comrade in the fight against his bullshit. The best way to make Crowder run and hide in fear is to challenge him to an actual debate between equals... or punch him in the face, if you're a very annoyed union leader.

Well of course. Youtube is a business like any other. Supporting social justice happens to be profitable for a usually very liberal target audience. But this is also the same Youtube that pushes conspiracy theory videos and inflammatory comments to the top of lists. Not because they as a company endorse those views, but because it turns heads and gets people to watch more. It's all about views and ad revenue. They're capitalists, nothing more.

[Outer Sparta]

Anyway, Crowder is a pissbaby bully but, honestly, Youtube was never going to be, like, a comrade in the fight against his bullshit. The best way to make Crowder run and hide in fear is to challenge him to an actual debate between equals... or punch him in the face, if you're a very annoyed union leader.

Well of course. Youtube is a business like any other. Supporting social justice happens to be profitable for a usually very liberal target audience. But this is also the same Youtube that pushes conspiracy theory videos and inflammatory comments to the top of lists. Not because they as a company endorse those views, but because it turns heads and gets people to watch more. It's all about views and ad revenue. They're capitalists, nothing more.

Not like YouTube and other social media really care about removing content that promoted hate. All care about the clicks.

[Des-Bal]

And yet he has repeatedly chickened out of debating Sam Seder, like many other right-wing grifters.

That's very sweet of you.

I don't know who the fuck Sam Seder is. I just listed three notably intelligent and politically active people Crowder had no problem debating the existence of a man he did not wish to speak to does not suggest a person is afraid of confrontation.

[-Ra-]

So much for tolerance.

Do you support an intolerant guy like Crowder?

I support his right to hold his opinions.

And also not to be assaulted.

[Outer Sparta]

Do you support an intolerant guy like Crowder?

I support his right to hold his opinions.

And also not to be assaulted.

Do you believe Crowder's views are tolerant?

[Loben III]

I thought advocating violence was a no no here?

I'm not "advocating". I'm making a joke based on something that actually happened: Crowder provoked a bunch of union guys during a demonstration until one of them retaliated.

“Just a joke guys, c’mon!”

[Des-Bal]

I'm not "advocating". I'm making a joke based on something that actually happened: Crowder provoked a bunch of union guys during a demonstration until one of them retaliated.

You're absolutely advocating, that's why you're characterizing speech as provocation and physical violence in the face of dissent retaliation.

[Liriena]

I'm not "advocating". I'm making a joke based on something that actually happened: Crowder provoked a bunch of union guys during a demonstration until one of them retaliated.

You're absolutely advocating, that's why you're characterizing speech as provocation and physical violence in the face of dissent retaliation.

Speech can be provocation, but in that case it wasn't speech. Crowder pushed a guy over.

[Loben III]

You're absolutely advocating, that's why you're characterizing speech as provocation and physical violence in the face of dissent retaliation.

Speech can be provocation, but in that case it wasn't speech. Crowder pushed a guy over.

Oh he pushed a guy over.

Did the guy get a broken back?