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Postby Sharania » Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:58 am

Adam Schiff:

https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/statu ... 4931699718

Reps Robert Menendes, Eliot Engel and Jim Risch (so far - the only Republican) are all calling for Lukashenka to stop the violence, make election results honest and transparent or GTFO.

Biden is expressing his support for protesters and demands recount of the votes.

Meanwhile Trump is... uhm... running away from the press (again)?
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:52 am

Sharania wrote:Adam Schiff:

https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/statu ... 4931699718

Reps Robert Menendes, Eliot Engel and Jim Risch (so far - the only Republican) are all calling for Lukashenka to stop the violence, make election results honest and transparent or GTFO.

Biden is expressing his support for protesters and demands recount of the votes.

Meanwhile Trump is... uhm... running away from the press (again)?


Sounds about right.

I'm getting really sick of looking at Kayleigh McEnany's lying face. I can smell the bullshit in her breath from across the room.

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Postby Purpelia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:56 am

Sharania wrote:Adam Schiff:

https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/statu ... 4931699718

Reps Robert Menendes, Eliot Engel and Jim Risch (so far - the only Republican) are all calling for Lukashenka to stop the violence, make election results honest and transparent or GTFO.

Biden is expressing his support for protesters and demands recount of the votes.

Meanwhile Trump is... uhm... running away from the press (again)?

When americans call for stuff like this it immediately brings to doubt what is actually going on.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:43 am

Purpelia wrote:
Sharania wrote:Adam Schiff:

https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/statu ... 4931699718

Reps Robert Menendes, Eliot Engel and Jim Risch (so far - the only Republican) are all calling for Lukashenka to stop the violence, make election results honest and transparent or GTFO.

Biden is expressing his support for protesters and demands recount of the votes.

Meanwhile Trump is... uhm... running away from the press (again)?

When americans call for stuff like this it immediately brings to doubt what is actually going on.

Trust me the majority of Americans don’t want anything to do with what’s going on in Belarus.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:47 am

Purpelia wrote:
Sharania wrote:Adam Schiff:

https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/statu ... 4931699718

Reps Robert Menendes, Eliot Engel and Jim Risch (so far - the only Republican) are all calling for Lukashenka to stop the violence, make election results honest and transparent or GTFO.

Biden is expressing his support for protesters and demands recount of the votes.

Meanwhile Trump is... uhm... running away from the press (again)?

When americans call for stuff like this it immediately brings to doubt what is actually going on.


You act as if the move to quickly scoop up some good press (who doesn't like a good underdog revolutionary narrative [answer: nobody, everyone loves it]) is indicative of shenanigans. That's a strong connection to make from the most circumstantial of evidence.
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Postby Panslavicland » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:18 am

There won't be a revolution because there was no rigged election.

The CIS mission has not registered any facts that could call the legitimacy of the presidential election into question. The CIS mission finds that the 9 August presidential election was conducted in compliance with the Constitution and the Electoral Code of Belarus. The election was open, competitive and ensured the free expression of the will of citizens of Belarus.

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Postby Valrifell » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:19 am

Panslavicland wrote:There won't be a revolution because there was no rigged election.

The CIS mission has not registered any facts that could call the legitimacy of the presidential election into question. The CIS mission finds that the 9 August presidential election was conducted in compliance with the Constitution and the Electoral Code of Belarus. The election was open, competitive and ensured the free expression of the will of citizens of Belarus.


Russia says that there was nothing wrong in a Russian puppet-state's election.

I'm shocked.
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Postby Purpelia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:42 am

Panslavicland wrote:There won't be a revolution because there was no rigged election.

The CIS mission has not registered any facts that could call the legitimacy of the presidential election into question. The CIS mission finds that the 9 August presidential election was conducted in compliance with the Constitution and the Electoral Code of Belarus. The election was open, competitive and ensured the free expression of the will of citizens of Belarus.

That's not how it works. If america wants a revolution it gets a revolution.
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Postby -Astoria- » Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:42 am

Panslavicland wrote:There won't be a revolution because there was no rigged election.

The CIS mission has not registered any facts that could call the legitimacy of the presidential election into question. The CIS mission finds that the 9 August presidential election was conducted in compliance with the Constitution and the Electoral Code of Belarus. The election was open, competitive and ensured the free expression of the will of citizens of Belarus.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:20 am

Panslavicland wrote:There won't be a revolution because there was no rigged election.

The CIS mission has not registered any facts that could call the legitimacy of the presidential election into question. The CIS mission finds that the 9 August presidential election was conducted in compliance with the Constitution and the Electoral Code of Belarus. The election was open, competitive and ensured the free expression of the will of citizens of Belarus.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:21 am

Purpelia wrote:
Panslavicland wrote:There won't be a revolution because there was no rigged election.


That's not how it works. If america wants a revolution it gets a revolution.

America doesn’t want anything to do with Belarus
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:24 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:That's not how it works. If america wants a revolution it gets a revolution.

America doesn’t want anything to do with Belarus

Well, shouldn't some do unfortunately.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:35 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:That's not how it works. If america wants a revolution it gets a revolution.

America doesn’t want anything to do with Belarus


Much of the top brass can't even find Belarus on a map I bet.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:36 am

Purpelia wrote:
Panslavicland wrote:There won't be a revolution because there was no rigged election.


That's not how it works. If america wants a revolution it gets a revolution.


No I think the people of of Belarus want a revolution.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:46 am

Panslavicland wrote:There won't be a revolution because there was no rigged election.

The CIS mission has not registered any facts that could call the legitimacy of the presidential election into question. The CIS mission finds that the 9 August presidential election was conducted in compliance with the Constitution and the Electoral Code of Belarus. The election was open, competitive and ensured the free expression of the will of citizens of Belarus.

...since there were no monitors present then that explains the lack of evidence of vote rigging. Come in man, this isn't difficult.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:05 am

San Lumen wrote:https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/08/10/the-people-have-been-insulted-russia-reacts-to-belarus-presidential-vote-unrest-a71098

Russian media isn't being very friendly to Lukashenko at the moment. Perhaps Russia won't step in?

I guess that is good, but it's sad someone died already.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:14 am

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The Moscow Times is against the Government in Russia, so I doubt that Russia's Government will listen to them when it comes to Government coups.


There aren't newspapers in Russia which are anti-Putin, silly.

Well, apparently there are now. Plus, this isn't pro-Putin or anti-Putin. Based on what it said, it seems one pro-Kremlin(Komsomolskay Pravda) network said the people were insulted and implied it thought the vote rigged, though there was one where I do get the feeling they're saying Lukashenko won fair(that being the RT).

Actually, why do some people call him Lukashenko and others Lukashenka?
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Postby -Astoria- » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:17 am

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Actually, why do some people call him Lukashenko and others Lukashenka?
Different transliterations, I believe.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:27 am

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/8 ... n=trending

The country is in apparent chaos at the moment. It is a daily kos link but there are quite a few videos showing what is occurring. protesters are building barricades in the center of Minsk, drivers are blocking police and special forces vehicles, and there are less police in riot gear as protests grow.

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San Lumen wrote:https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/8/10/1968221/-There-is-a-revolution-in-Belarus-This-is-important-for-us-in-the-United-States?utm_campaign=trending

The country is in apparent chaos at the moment. It is a daily kos link but there are quite a few videos showing what is occurring. protesters are building barricades in the center of Minsk, drivers are blocking police and special forces vehicles, and there are less police in riot gear as protests grow.

You know, Lukashenko is bad, but his opponent is a coward. She should be leading the negotiations between herself and him, not fleeing the country to Lithuania while her husband is in prison and her supporters are getting ready to die.
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Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/8/10/1968221/-There-is-a-revolution-in-Belarus-This-is-important-for-us-in-the-United-States?utm_campaign=trending

The country is in apparent chaos at the moment. It is a daily kos link but there are quite a few videos showing what is occurring. protesters are building barricades in the center of Minsk, drivers are blocking police and special forces vehicles, and there are less police in riot gear as protests grow.

You know, Lukashenko is bad, but his opponent is a coward. She should be leading the negotiations between herself and him, not fleeing the country to Lithuania while her husband is in prison and her supporters are getting ready to die.


A visit to the incumbent risks arrest as well. While other nations could plead for her release if this situation were to happen, I find it unlikely because at that point it would be the easier way out for Lukashenko.
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Postby Barfleur » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:32 am

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Purpelia wrote:That's not how it works. If america wants a revolution it gets a revolution.

America doesn’t want anything to do with Belarus

I'm sure expanding NATO to the Russian border would be in America's interest. Assuming, of course, this administration has any intention of countering Russian influence.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:33 am

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/8/10/1968221/-There-is-a-revolution-in-Belarus-This-is-important-for-us-in-the-United-States?utm_campaign=trending

The country is in apparent chaos at the moment. It is a daily kos link but there are quite a few videos showing what is occurring. protesters are building barricades in the center of Minsk, drivers are blocking police and special forces vehicles, and there are less police in riot gear as protests grow.

You know, Lukashenko is bad, but his opponent is a coward. She should be leading the negotiations between herself and him, not fleeing the country to Lithuania while her husband is in prison and her supporters are getting ready to die.

He is never going to negotiate with her. He is desperate to hang onto power no matter what.

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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:36 am

San Lumen wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:You know, Lukashenko is bad, but his opponent is a coward. She should be leading the negotiations between herself and him, not fleeing the country to Lithuania while her husband is in prison and her supporters are getting ready to die.

He is never going to negotiate with her. He is desperate to hang onto power no matter what.

Well, then I don't know what she is at this point. The closest is a violent but cowardly revolutionary who wants people to die so she can be president. And considering she stated that one of her top goals is freeing her husband, this is starting to sound like nepotism. The best course of action would be to negotiate a favorable deal where civil rights will be enshrined in the constitution, and she becomes Prime Minister. If Lukashenko starts a purge alongisde a massive crackdown though...
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:37 am

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
San Lumen wrote:He is never going to negotiate with her. He is desperate to hang onto power no matter what.

Well, then I don't know what she is at this point. The closest is a violent but cowardly revolutionary who wants people to die so she can be president. And considering she stated that one of her top goals is freeing her husband, this is starting to sound like nepotism. The best course of action would be to negotiate a favorable deal where civil rights will be enshrined in the constitution, and she becomes Prime Minister. If Lukashenko starts a purge alongisde a massive crackdown though...


He is never going to allow that and she wouldnt want to serve as prime minister under him.

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