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Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:

San Lumen wrote:And videos have surfaced that claim to show actual results and the opposition candidate won in a overwhelming landslide

"claim"? So, no proof?

San Lumen wrote:You honestly believe that overseas vote would show that much of a disparity?

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Here is your proof: https://mobile.twitter.com/wiczipedia/s ... 4462646273

San Lumen wrote:

Dresderstan wrote:And they'll die trying and will achieve nothing when Daddy Putin sends his troops to crush it.

Yeah they should just give up and accept a rigged election and five more years of repression. Lukashenko isn’t on very good terms with Putin at the moment. Other European countries should stop sending out statements and help oust him

You know Lukashenko will shout foreign meddling and attempt to call Russia for help. Also, if your suggestion were to play out, it would cause even worse relations between Europe/West and Russia. And if escalation proceeds, you risk Europe losing a lot of oil and natural gas supply, power could go out in a few cities (bot so sure what’s with the European electric grid, I will however assume that some cities, especially in Eastern Europe are powered by Russian non-renewables). After that, war becomes a possibility. And an all-out war is what 2020 doesn’t need.

While I do support the movement, I think it’s probably inevitable Russia will try to handle it, given Belarus and Lukashenko are under his sphere of influence.

San Lumen wrote:

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:"claim"? So, no proof?


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Here is your proof: https://mobile.twitter.com/wiczipedia/s ... 4462646273

One video tweet on the worst platform ever is not "proof" especially if it's one count.

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:

San Lumen wrote:What’s your evidence?

They lost the election and their only argument for popular support is that polls outside foreign embassies (the sort of voting location where you wouldn't find Lukashenko supporters, see 'a bunch of liberals') said their candidate got 80% and Lukashenko 5%. That is my evidence.

So not really evidence at all. It's odd though that he felt the need to arrest the main opposition candidate before the polls opened, arrested opposition campaign managers, and arrested journalists at around the same point. It's also odd that observers weren't allowed to monitor the election.

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:

The New California Republic wrote:Except no, I've responded with arguments plenty of times to stuff you have been saying. Fucking hilarious.

Plenty of times? You think?

Remember all those times I tore apart arguments you gave on your previous pet subject? No?

Dresderstan wrote:

San Lumen wrote:Here is your proof: https://mobile.twitter.com/wiczipedia/s ... 4462646273

One video tweet on the worst platform ever is not "proof" especially if it's one count.

There are other videos showing the same thing. Are you claiming it’s fake?

San Lumen wrote:

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:"claim"? So, no proof?


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Here is your proof: https://mobile.twitter.com/wiczipedia/s ... 4462646273

Possibly faked by an electoral official sympathetic to the opposition, if they're an electoral official at all. Not proof.

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:

San Lumen wrote:Here is your proof: https://mobile.twitter.com/wiczipedia/s ... 4462646273

Possibly faked by an electoral official sympathetic to the opposition, if they're an electoral official at all. Not proof.

What’s your evidence it’s fake? The country is in chaos right now but that’s just a small minority stirring things up

San Lumen wrote:

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:Possibly faked by an electoral official sympathetic to the opposition, if they're an electoral official at all. Not proof.

What’s your evidence it’s fake?

What's your evidence it's real?

Dresderstan wrote:

San Lumen wrote:What’s your evidence it’s fake?

What's your evidence it's real?

That fact that multiple videos from different places have surfaced showing yet same thing

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheStage/sta ... gr%5Etweet

The EU might be preparing to step in

The New California Republic wrote:

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:They lost the election and their only argument for popular support is that polls outside foreign embassies (the sort of voting location where you wouldn't find Lukashenko supporters, see 'a bunch of liberals') said their candidate got 80% and Lukashenko 5%. That is my evidence.

So not really evidence at all. It's odd though that he felt the need to arrest the main opposition candidate before the polls opened, arrested opposition campaign managers, and arrested journalists at around the same point. It's also odd that observers weren't allowed to monitor the election.

None of that means he didn't win.

The New California Republic wrote:

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:Plenty of times? You think?

Remember all those times I tore apart arguments you gave on your previous pet subject? No?

You never tore a single one apart and never provided an argument of your own. Anyway, one might get the impression that you're trying to bait someone into going off topic so you can tell the jannies someone's threadjacking (again). Perhaps we should return to the actual topic of this thread, if you have any actual arguments this time.

San Lumen wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/TheStage/status/1292838340492918785?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

The EU might be preparing to step in

That proves nothing that the EU will intervene, the only thing they'd do is put sanctions and tariffs, that's it.

San Lumen wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/TheStage/status/1292838340492918785?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

The EU might be preparing to step in

step in how?

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:

The New California Republic wrote:So not really evidence at all. It's odd though that he felt the need to arrest the main opposition candidate before the polls opened, arrested opposition campaign managers, and arrested journalists at around the same point. It's also odd that observers weren't allowed to monitor the election.

None of that means he didn't win.

It points to a pattern of behaviour of something bizarre going on, and makes the results highly suspect.

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:

The New California Republic wrote:Remember all those times I tore apart arguments you gave on your previous pet subject? No?

You never tore a single one apart and never provided an argument of your own.

Weird that you are remembering it completely wrong. But anyway this discussion isn't about me, even though you have tried to turn it that way for some bizarre reason, so enough eh?

The New California Republic wrote:

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:None of that means he didn't win.

It points to a patter of behaviour of something bizarre going on, and makes the results highly suspect.

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:
You never tore a single one apart and never provided an argument of your own.

Weird that you are remembering it completely wrong. But anyway this discussion isn't about me, even though you have tried to turn it that way for some bizarre reason, so enough eh?

It's not about you, it's about your (lack of) arguments in this thread.

Munkcestrian RepubIic wrote:It's not about you, it's about your (lack of) arguments in this thread.

Enough.

Loben III wrote:

San Lumen wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/TheStage/status/1292838340492918785?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

The EU might be preparing to step in

step in how?

I don’t know. The EU is talking about democratizing the country apparently according to the statement by Ursula von der Leyen

San Lumen wrote:

Loben III wrote:
step in how?

I don’t know. The EU is talking about democratizing the country apparently according to the statement by Ursula von der Leyen

They will almost certainly back down when Russia intervenes.

San Lumen wrote:

Loben III wrote:
step in how?

I don’t know. The EU is talking about democratizing the country apparently according to the statement by Ursula von der Leyen

So basically getting into a war with Russia.

San Lumen wrote:

Loben III wrote:
step in how?

I don’t know. The EU is talking about democratizing the country apparently according to the statement by Ursula von der Leyen

Do you have a link to the statement?

San Lumen wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/TheStage/status/1292838340492918785?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

The EU might be preparing to step in

Your link says nothing about the EU doing anything. Which they won’t because they’d get their gas supply shut off by the Russians

San Lumen wrote:

Loben III wrote:
step in how?

I don’t know. The EU is talking about democratizing the country apparently according to the statement by Ursula von der Leyen

i mean the russians could always cut off the EUs gas.

that would stop of any talk.

Post War America wrote:

San Lumen wrote:I don’t know. The EU is talking about democratizing the country apparently according to the statement by Ursula von der Leyen

They will almost certainly back down when Russia intervenes.

They shouldn’t. They should tell Putin to go to hell

Dresderstan wrote:

San Lumen wrote:I don’t know. The EU is talking about democratizing the country apparently according to the statement by Ursula von der Leyen

So basically getting into a war with Russia.

i for one welcome a war between the EU and Russia.

San Lumen wrote:

Post War America wrote:
They will almost certainly back down when Russia intervenes.

They shouldn’t. They should tell Putin to go to hell

Then they will hike gas prices and have their own economic and political problems at home.