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Mannixa Prime
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:33 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:Hopefully he stays in power. We have enough neo liberal regimes in the world thank you.

You clearly have no idea how evil a man he is






And I should give a shit why??
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Postby Post War America » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:57 pm

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San Lumen wrote:You clearly have no idea how evil a man he is


And I should give a shit why??


He doesn't believe in liberal democracy, and neo-liberal capitalism, that makes him worse than Hitler.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:13 pm

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Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Ok, it's 10:17 in Belarus, and still no council meeting.

Perhaps Lukashenko is trolling them and has no intention of meeting with them?

No, I meant a meeting between the council members themselves. Seems they already had it. They decided to elect a 7 man presidium which will in turn elect it's chairman. I believe they plan to start negotiations with Lukashenko on a referendum, new constitution, and who is president.
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Postby Atheris » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:14 pm

Post War America wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:
And I should give a shit why??


He doesn't believe in liberal democracy, and neo-liberal capitalism, that makes him worse than Hitler.

...Hitler didn't believe in either of those, either.
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Postby Post War America » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:16 pm

Atheris wrote:
Post War America wrote:
He doesn't believe in liberal democracy, and neo-liberal capitalism, that makes him worse than Hitler.

...Hitler didn't believe in either of those, either.


I am aware of that yes... the snarky comment was meant to be a snarky comment.
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Postby Atheris » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:16 pm

Post War America wrote:
Atheris wrote:...Hitler didn't believe in either of those, either.


I am aware of that yes... the snarky comment was meant to be a snarky comment.

...Heh. My bad.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:47 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Perhaps Lukashenko is trolling them and has no intention of meeting with them?

No, I meant a meeting between the council members themselves. Seems they already had it. They decided to elect a 7 man presidium which will in turn elect it's chairman. I believe they plan to start negotiations with Lukashenko on a referendum, new constitution, and who is president.

He’s not going to allow a fair election on any referendum or new constitution

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Postby The Marlborough » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:50 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:No, I meant a meeting between the council members themselves. Seems they already had it. They decided to elect a 7 man presidium which will in turn elect it's chairman. I believe they plan to start negotiations with Lukashenko on a referendum, new constitution, and who is president.

He’s not going to allow a fair election on any referendum or new constitution

Good.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:50 pm

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No State Here wrote:All three of these have rigged elections and maintained an authoritarian grip on their country since they came to power, oftentimes changing the constitution, so yes, all three of these belong and I have no sympathy for any dictators

Unless I'm missing something, I don't think Morales counts...

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Postby Atheris » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:51 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
-Astoria- wrote:Unless I'm missing something, I don't think Morales counts...

Morales changed Bolivia’s constitution to stay in power

Oh, come on, Morales! Being Spider-Man wasn't enough, and now you have to run a South American country as an autocrat?!
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Postby The Marlborough » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:52 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:Hopefully he stays in power. We have enough neo liberal regimes in the world thank you.

You clearly have no idea how evil a man he is

Lmao you probably just heard of Belarus this past week.
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Postby The Marlborough » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:02 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:You clearly have no idea how evil a man he is

You clearly don’t understand that some people don’t give a flying fuck if he’s evil

In the context of authoritarian leaders, he is rather tame.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:08 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:No, I meant a meeting between the council members themselves. Seems they already had it. They decided to elect a 7 man presidium which will in turn elect it's chairman. I believe they plan to start negotiations with Lukashenko on a referendum, new constitution, and who is president.

He’s not going to allow a fair election on any referendum or new constitution

Well, I know my support doesn't matter, but if they change their mind and say it does, they better check their deck and squeeze those negotiations for freedom juice because I'm not supporting a violent revolution. Enough people died.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:28 pm

The Marlborough wrote:
San Lumen wrote:He’s not going to allow a fair election on any referendum or new constitution

Good.

Go move to Minsk


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Postby The Marlborough » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:29 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:Good.

Go move to Minsk

Oh man, what a come back; I could easily say the same thing to you.
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Postby Atheris » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:29 pm

The Marlborough wrote:
San Lumen wrote:He’s not going to allow a fair election on any referendum or new constitution

Good.

I find it kinda funny that a monarchist is (seemingly) supportive of a dictator that still uses Soviet symbolism.

I dunno. Kind of ironic.
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Postby Post War America » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:32 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:Good.

Go move to Minsk


Same could be said to you. Calling for war when you have no stakes in it, is pretty gauche.
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Postby The Marlborough » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:34 pm

Atheris wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:Good.

I find it kinda funny that a monarchist is (seemingly) supportive of a dictator that still uses Soviet symbolism.

I dunno. Kind of ironic.

I'm a bit of a Sovietophile tbh.
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Postby Novus America » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:38 pm

The Marlborough wrote:
Atheris wrote:I find it kinda funny that a monarchist is (seemingly) supportive of a dictator that still uses Soviet symbolism.

I dunno. Kind of ironic.

I'm a bit of a Sovietophile tbh.


So in your book basically any authoritarian regime is good if it is reactionary and oppressive enough?

Obeyism is more a fetish than any sort of coherent philosophy.
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Postby The Marlborough » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:42 pm

Novus America wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:I'm a bit of a Sovietophile tbh.


So in your book basically any authoritarian regime is good if it is reactionary and oppressive enough?
No?

Obeyism is more a fetish than any sort of coherent philosophy.
What?
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Postby Atheris » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:46 pm

The Marlborough wrote:
Atheris wrote:I find it kinda funny that a monarchist is (seemingly) supportive of a dictator that still uses Soviet symbolism.

I dunno. Kind of ironic.

I'm a bit of a Sovietophile tbh.

I do enjoy Communist aesthetic. I may hate the ideology, but I'll be damned if I diss the Hammer and Sickle.
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Postby The Marlborough » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:47 pm

Atheris wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:I'm a bit of a Sovietophile tbh.

I do enjoy Communist aesthetic. I may hate the ideology, but I'll be damned if I diss the Hammer and Sickle.

They were the perfect adversary and had great taste in aesthetics.
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Postby Atheris » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:50 pm

The Marlborough wrote:
Atheris wrote:I do enjoy Communist aesthetic. I may hate the ideology, but I'll be damned if I diss the Hammer and Sickle.

They were the perfect adversary and had great taste in aesthetics.

All the bad ideologies have dope-ass aesthetics. Fascists had edgy, black flags and cool logos, communists had the Hammer and Sickle and love for the Motherland, and imperialists had exploration and spreading Christianity. I wish capitalism and democracy had shit like that.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:51 pm

Atheris wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:They were the perfect adversary and had great taste in aesthetics.

All the bad ideologies have dope-ass aesthetics. Fascists had edgy, black flags and cool logos, communists had the Hammer and Sickle and love for the Motherland, and imperialists had exploration and spreading Christianity. I wish capitalism and democracy had shit like that.

Blue stars are overused, agreed
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