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by Greater Cosmicium » Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:59 am
San Lumen wrote:Greater Cosmicium wrote:
Good luck with that. Either Lukashenko's loyal forces in the palace will make minced meat out of the people attempting to throw him out, or the country will be left pretty much ungovernable. Either way, Belarus would enter a political crisis, like Ukraine did.
Not if tens of thousands beat down the gates like in Jack Ryan.
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by San Lumen » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:03 am
Greater Cosmicium wrote:San Lumen wrote:Not if tens of thousands beat down the gates like in Jack Ryan.
The result is the same, because I'd imagine the palace guards have a lot of ammunition in store, except there'd be way more minced meat made out of the people who broke down the gates. And if they fall somehow, expect other military units to intervene. Also, I'd think they might have slight problems gathering "tens of thousands" of people, not many are willing to get cut down by said palace guards to overthrow somebody, it's just way too dangerous, reality doesn't work like in the romanticized fantasy of TV shows.
by Dresderstan » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:05 am
San Lumen wrote:Greater Cosmicium wrote:
The result is the same, because I'd imagine the palace guards have a lot of ammunition in store, except there'd be way more minced meat made out of the people who broke down the gates. And if they fall somehow, expect other military units to intervene. Also, I'd think they might have slight problems gathering "tens of thousands" of people, not many are willing to get cut down by said palace guards to overthrow somebody, it's just way too dangerous, reality doesn't work like in the romanticized fantasy of TV shows.
And these people really want the blood of tens of thousands on their hands? They are the cowards for sticking by him. His bodyguards and security forces should walk out on him as should anyone who works for him.
by Post War America » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:07 am
Gravlen wrote:The famous Bowling Green Massacre is yesterday's news. Today it's all about the Cricket Blue Carnage. Tomorrow it'll be about the Curling Yellow Annihilation.
by Pilipinas and Malaya » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:08 am
San Lumen wrote:Greater Cosmicium wrote:
The result is the same, because I'd imagine the palace guards have a lot of ammunition in store, except there'd be way more minced meat made out of the people who broke down the gates. And if they fall somehow, expect other military units to intervene. Also, I'd think they might have slight problems gathering "tens of thousands" of people, not many are willing to get cut down by said palace guards to overthrow somebody, it's just way too dangerous, reality doesn't work like in the romanticized fantasy of TV shows.
And these people really want the blood of tens of thousands on their hands? They are the cowards for sticking by him. His bodyguards and security forces should walk out on him as should anyone who works for him.
by San Lumen » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:09 am
Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:San Lumen wrote:And these people really want the blood of tens of thousands on their hands? They are the cowards for sticking by him. His bodyguards and security forces should walk out on him as should anyone who works for him.
This is just absurd. Yes, they could walk out, but a lot will probably choose not to.
by Dresderstan » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:10 am
by Post War America » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:12 am
Gravlen wrote:The famous Bowling Green Massacre is yesterday's news. Today it's all about the Cricket Blue Carnage. Tomorrow it'll be about the Curling Yellow Annihilation.
by Greater Cosmicium » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:12 am
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by Post War America » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:13 am
Gravlen wrote:The famous Bowling Green Massacre is yesterday's news. Today it's all about the Cricket Blue Carnage. Tomorrow it'll be about the Curling Yellow Annihilation.
by Dresderstan » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:14 am
by San Lumen » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:14 am
Post War America wrote:San Lumen wrote:They should.
That's not how Praetorian Guards work unfortunately. They are generally paid and treated well specifically to engender extreme loyalty. The only way they defect is if somebody makes them a better offer, and I don't me "don't you think liberal democracy is just swell" or some other ideological platitude. I mean legitimate financial benefits for them or their families, which will usually result in another dictatorship. Otherwise you're going to have to fight through them, and that means a protracted and bloody civil war.
by Greater Cosmicium » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:15 am
San Lumen wrote:Post War America wrote:
That's not how Praetorian Guards work unfortunately. They are generally paid and treated well specifically to engender extreme loyalty. The only way they defect is if somebody makes them a better offer, and I don't me "don't you think liberal democracy is just swell" or some other ideological platitude. I mean legitimate financial benefits for them or their families, which will usually result in another dictatorship. Otherwise you're going to have to fight through them, and that means a protracted and bloody civil war.
Screw their money. Blindly supporting him after what he’s done makes them even worse. They should all quit and join the protests. Everyone who works at his palace should walk out to. Let him clean his own place and make his own meals. Break stuff on the way out too.
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by Post War America » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:16 am
San Lumen wrote:Post War America wrote:
That's not how Praetorian Guards work unfortunately. They are generally paid and treated well specifically to engender extreme loyalty. The only way they defect is if somebody makes them a better offer, and I don't me "don't you think liberal democracy is just swell" or some other ideological platitude. I mean legitimate financial benefits for them or their families, which will usually result in another dictatorship. Otherwise you're going to have to fight through them, and that means a protracted and bloody civil war.
Screw their money. Blindly supporting him after what he’s done makes them even worse. They should all quit and join the protests. Everyone who works at his palace should walk out to. Let him clean his own place and make his own meals. Break stuff on the way out too.
Gravlen wrote:The famous Bowling Green Massacre is yesterday's news. Today it's all about the Cricket Blue Carnage. Tomorrow it'll be about the Curling Yellow Annihilation.
by Dresderstan » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:17 am
San Lumen wrote:Post War America wrote:
That's not how Praetorian Guards work unfortunately. They are generally paid and treated well specifically to engender extreme loyalty. The only way they defect is if somebody makes them a better offer, and I don't me "don't you think liberal democracy is just swell" or some other ideological platitude. I mean legitimate financial benefits for them or their families, which will usually result in another dictatorship. Otherwise you're going to have to fight through them, and that means a protracted and bloody civil war.
Screw their money. Blindly supporting him after what he’s done makes them even worse. They should all quit and join the protests. Everyone who works at his palace should walk out to. Let him clean his own place and make his own meals. Break stuff on the way out too.
by San Lumen » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:17 am
Post War America wrote:San Lumen wrote:Screw their money. Blindly supporting him after what he’s done makes them even worse. They should all quit and join the protests. Everyone who works at his palace should walk out to. Let him clean his own place and make his own meals. Break stuff on the way out too.
Easy for somebody so far away, and so disconnected to say. Its not like your family's livelihood relies on you remaining in the favor and service of Lukashenko.
by Dresderstan » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:18 am
San Lumen wrote:Post War America wrote:
Easy for somebody so far away, and so disconnected to say. Its not like your family's livelihood relies on you remaining in the favor and service of Lukashenko.
Yeah the heck with thr majority of the population. They are cowards and even worse monsters than him for blindly supporting him. They should quit.
by Pilipinas and Malaya » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:19 am
San Lumen wrote:Post War America wrote:
Easy for somebody so far away, and so disconnected to say. Its not like your family's livelihood relies on you remaining in the favor and service of Lukashenko.
Yeah the heck with thr majority of the population. They are cowards and even worse monsters than him for blindly supporting him. They should quit.
by Dresderstan » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:20 am
by Post War America » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:20 am
San Lumen wrote:Post War America wrote:
Easy for somebody so far away, and so disconnected to say. Its not like your family's livelihood relies on you remaining in the favor and service of Lukashenko.
Yeah the heck with thr majority of the population. They are cowards and even worse monsters than him for blindly supporting him. They should quit.
Gravlen wrote:The famous Bowling Green Massacre is yesterday's news. Today it's all about the Cricket Blue Carnage. Tomorrow it'll be about the Curling Yellow Annihilation.
by Exalted Inquellian State » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:21 am
San Lumen wrote:Post War America wrote:
That's not how Praetorian Guards work unfortunately. They are generally paid and treated well specifically to engender extreme loyalty. The only way they defect is if somebody makes them a better offer, and I don't me "don't you think liberal democracy is just swell" or some other ideological platitude. I mean legitimate financial benefits for them or their families, which will usually result in another dictatorship. Otherwise you're going to have to fight through them, and that means a protracted and bloody civil war.
Screw their money. Blindly supporting him after what he’s done makes them even worse. They should all quit and join the protests. Everyone who works at his palace should walk out to. Let him clean his own place and make his own meals. Break stuff on the way out too.
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