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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:15 am

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Dresderstan wrote:Why should we die for the interest of "spreading democracy" while everyone hates us and calls us warmongers. Again look at fucking Iraq and Syria and the mess Bush and arguably Obama left.

We should have let there be a massacre in Benghazi? You would have seen horrific images on tv the next day and said “how could we have prevented this?

We never should’ve gotten involved in Libya in the first damn place
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:15 am

San Lumen wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Why should we die for the interest of "spreading democracy" while everyone hates us and calls us warmongers. Again look at fucking Iraq and Syria and the mess Bush and arguably Obama left.

We should have let there be a massacre in Benghazi? You would have seen horrific images on tv the next day and said “how could we have prevented this?

Way to twist my words into something I didn't say. We shouldn't have been in Libya at all anyway, let the Libyans fight for themselves and leave us and our allies out, it's their issue and it shouldn't be ours.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:16 am

San Lumen wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Why should we die for the interest of "spreading democracy" while everyone hates us and calls us warmongers. Again look at fucking Iraq and Syria and the mess Bush and arguably Obama left.

We should have let there be a massacre in Benghazi? You would have seen horrific images on tv the next day and said “how could we have prevented this?


But we didn't even prevent a massacre. We just made more massacres. Good job guys!
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Postby Bienenhalde » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:17 am

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Oh yes, caring for foreigners is so horrible. :roll:


its less that and believing that we are swimming in cash.


America is the richest country in the world. Why shouldn't we put our wealth to good use instead of letting corrupt millionaires and biliionaires hoard it and avoid paying taxes?

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Postby Loben III » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:18 am

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Loben III wrote:
its less that and believing that we are swimming in cash.


America is the richest country in the world. Why shouldn't we put our wealth to good use instead of letting corrupt millionaires and biliionaires hoard it and avoid paying taxes?


maybe we should help the people in poverty *here*.

you know. Rednecks, Blacks, hispanics.

the people here who should be worth a fuck to you?
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Postby Bienenhalde » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:18 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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Oh yes, caring for foreigners is so horrible. :roll:

Diplomatic help is far better than invading their nations. We shouldn’t be intervening all crazy like but we shouldn’t completely forgo the world.

Instead we help the world diplomatically only and no military intervention


Well, I agree that diplomacy is important. Trump's funding cuts for the US State Department are an utter and total disgrace.

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Postby Loben III » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:19 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Diplomatic help is far better than invading their nations. We shouldn’t be intervening all crazy like but we shouldn’t completely forgo the world.

Instead we help the world diplomatically only and no military intervention


Well, I agree that diplomacy is important. Trump's funding cuts for the US State Department are an utter and total disgrace.


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Postby Valrifell » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:19 am

Loben III wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
America is the richest country in the world. Why shouldn't we put our wealth to good use instead of letting corrupt millionaires and biliionaires hoard it and avoid paying taxes?


maybe we should help the people in poverty *here*.

you know. Rednecks, Blacks, hispanics.

the people here who should be worth a fuck to you?


You don't even give a fuck to those people lmao
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Postby Loben III » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:19 am

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San Lumen wrote:We should have let there be a massacre in Benghazi? You would have seen horrific images on tv the next day and said “how could we have prevented this?


But we didn't even prevent a massacre. We just made more massacres. Good job guys!


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Postby Bienenhalde » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:20 am

Loben III wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:America is the richest country in the world. Why shouldn't we put our wealth to good use instead of letting corrupt millionaires and biliionaires hoard it and avoid paying taxes?


maybe we should help the people in poverty *here*.

you know. Rednecks, Blacks, hispanics.

the people here who should be worth a fuck to you?


And yet your beloved isolationist president is just cutting taxes for the rich and taking away government benefits from the poor Americans who actually need it.

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Postby Loben III » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:20 am

Valrifell wrote:
Loben III wrote:
maybe we should help the people in poverty *here*.

you know. Rednecks, Blacks, hispanics.

the people here who should be worth a fuck to you?


You don't even give a fuck to those people lmao


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Postby Loben III » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:21 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Loben III wrote:
maybe we should help the people in poverty *here*.

you know. Rednecks, Blacks, hispanics.

the people here who should be worth a fuck to you?


And yet your beloved isolationist president is just cutting taxes for the rich and taking away government benefits from the poor Americans who actually need it.


so why dont you do something about mr state dept?
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:22 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Loben III wrote:
its less that and believing that we are swimming in cash.


America is the richest country in the world. Why shouldn't we put our wealth to good use instead of letting corrupt millionaires and biliionaires hoard it and avoid paying taxes?


I agree. Let's put their wealth to good use helping Americans instead of enriching those same millionaires and billionaires with overseas wars. Glad you're on my side.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:23 am

Loben III wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
You don't even give a fuck to those people lmao


oh noez im a fraud!


No, you're just trying to twist a liberal you dislike because they're a liberal into a pretzel, per usual, even if your regular policy positions indicate zero fucks being given to communities that suddenly matter to you.
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Postby Loben III » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:24 am

Valrifell wrote:
Loben III wrote:
oh noez im a fraud!


No, you're just trying to twist a liberal you dislike because they're a liberal into a pretzel, per usual, even if your regular policy positions indicate zero fucks being given to communities that suddenly matter to you.


and my regular policy positions are?
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:29 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Loben III wrote:
its less that and believing that we are swimming in cash.


America is the richest country in the world. Why shouldn't we put our wealth to good use instead of letting corrupt millionaires and biliionaires hoard it and avoid paying taxes?

So why aren’t we using that money to help Americans? Have you seen the state of our cities? It’s shit. Absolute shit. We shouldn’t be off fighting foreign wars when we can use that money here
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Postby Bienenhalde » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:35 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
America is the richest country in the world. Why shouldn't we put our wealth to good use instead of letting corrupt millionaires and biliionaires hoard it and avoid paying taxes?

So why aren’t we using that money to help Americans? Have you seen the state of our cities? It’s shit. Absolute shit. We shouldn’t be off fighting foreign wars when we can use that money here


We could do both if we had leaders who weren't so obsessed with giving tax cuts to the rich.

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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:36 am

Everyone, if we continue going off topic, the thread will be shut down! You don't want that, do you?
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Postby Outer Acharet » Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:19 am

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>Assuming Saddam wouldn't have killed as many or more children purposefully or as a result of starting unecessary wars had he remained in office. Absolute cringe.

Press x to doubt. Saddam while terrible was the least bad option. Instead we now have Christians being genocided, terrorists running around, general instability, and a whole bunch of people who hate America.

We never should have invaded Iraq

>Saddam genocides Kurds, invades Kuwait, instigates war with Iran multiple times
>"Least Bad Option"

Saddam Hussein styled himself as the Stalin of the middle east. The intervention wasn't the worst thing, but it could have worked if America hadn't up and said "Whoop-de-doo we won" in '06 without cleaning up their mess. That left the power gap. That left instability. That let the IS come to power.
Christians being genocided is horrid. But at least it's not an organized state doing the genociding.
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Exalted Inquellian State wrote:Everyone, if we continue going off topic, the thread will be shut down! You don't want that, do you?

This thread is at least a page and a half past saving, methinks.
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Postby Euroslavia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:23 am

Please end the off-topic discussion and take it to the appropriate thread (or start a new one, if there is something that you'd like to discuss, as long as it has a post that encourages discussion rather than just expressing one's opinion). Let's get back to discussing Belarus and the election results/aftermath, thanks.
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:25 am

Outer Acharet wrote:Christians being genocided is horrid. But at least it's not an organized state doing the genociding.


Dead is dead. It doesn't matter who's doing it.
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Postby Outer Acharet » Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:28 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Outer Acharet wrote:Christians being genocided is horrid. But at least it's not an organized state doing the genociding.


Dead is dead. It doesn't matter who's doing it.

I mean there's a difference between an actual state gunning down citizens of its own nation with helicopters and a terrorist group beheading people. One actually has access to massive resources to make its actions much worse than they otherwise would have been.

But yeah any death that doesn't need to happen is a tragedy.
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Postby Alvaca » Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:30 am

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The state TV exit poll showed that Mr Lukashenko won nearly 80% of the vote.

Lol come on guys, at least give yourselves 99.9% of the vote, really push the boat out.

But seriously, 80% of the vote, with just 7% going to the main opposition candidate in a modern democracy just isn't possible. There has been some ballot box stuffing going on somewhere.


Ehm... Chirac versus LePen, 2nd round in the French presidential elections of 2002? Chirac got 82% - in a modern democracy.

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Postby Euroslavia » Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:31 am

Outer Acharet wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Dead is dead. It doesn't matter who's doing it.

I mean there's a difference between an actual state gunning down citizens of its own nation with helicopters and a terrorist group beheading people. One actually has access to massive resources to make its actions much worse than they otherwise would have been.

But yeah any death that doesn't need to happen is a tragedy.


Either take this topic to a new thread or stop discussing it in a thread that has nothing to do with it.

This is not a topic on US Policy, genocide, or dictatorships (outside of Belarus). It's about Belarus and it's election.
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Postby Outer Acharet » Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:33 am

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