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Bienenhalde
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Postby Bienenhalde » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:35 am

Loben III wrote:
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I guess the west is damned no matter what we do, aren't we? :roll: If we don't intervene the tyrants and their defenders mock us as ineffectual peaceniks who are all talk and no action. If we do intervene they accuse us of being warmongers. Maybe we should just stand up for our ideals and do what is right instead of just trying to placate through appeasement the people who hate our freedoms.


i have an idea.

Abolish NATO and leave the EU to rot.


Of course you want the forces of tyranny and oppression to win. That really isn't a surprise. But I don't know why anyone should bother listening to your horrible advice.

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Postby Rusozak » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:39 am

Loben III wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
I guess the west is damned no matter what we do, aren't we? :roll: If we don't intervene the tyrants and their defenders mock us as ineffectual peaceniks who are all talk and no action. If we do intervene they accuse us of being warmongers. Maybe we should just stand up for our ideals and do what is right instead of just trying to placate through appeasement the people who hate our freedoms.


i have an idea.

Abolish NATO and leave the EU to rot.


Okay Mr. Putin.
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:39 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Loben III wrote:
i have an idea.

Abolish NATO and leave the EU to rot.


Of course you want the forces of tyranny and oppression to win. That really isn't a surprise. But I don't know why anyone should bother listening to your horrible advice.

Okay neocon.

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Postby Bienenhalde » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:41 am

Dresderstan wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:Of course you want the forces of tyranny and oppression to win. That really isn't a surprise. But I don't know why anyone should bother listening to your horrible advice.

Okay neocon.


What's wrong with being a neo-con? Definately better than being a Trump-loving alt-righter or a pro-Xi tankie.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:42 am

The EU thinks they're the reason why Europe has been peaceful for the last 75 years *cough* bullshit *cough*, let them deal with it, Uncle Sam is tired of being the World Police.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:43 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:The EU thinks they're the reason why Europe has been peaceful for the last 75 years *cough* bullshit *cough*, let them deal with it, Uncle Sam is tired of being the World Police.


There's only one poster advocating that line of thought and I don't think anyone in the US administration has said anything about intervention in Belarus.
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Postby Loben III » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:43 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Loben III wrote:
i have an idea.

Abolish NATO and leave the EU to rot.


Of course you want the forces of tyranny and oppression to win. That really isn't a surprise. But I don't know why anyone should bother listening to your horrible advice.


maybe they should listen, things would progress nicely and we can get rid of those leeches.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:45 am

Loben III wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
Of course you want the forces of tyranny and oppression to win. That really isn't a surprise. But I don't know why anyone should bother listening to your horrible advice.


maybe they should listen, things would progress nicely and we can get rid of those leeches.


The only leeches I know of are the tyrants whose boots you wish to lick.

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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:46 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Okay neocon.


What's wrong with being a neo-con? Definately better than being a Trump-loving alt-righter or a pro-Xi tankie.

We shouldn't be getting into a war especially one literally right on the border of Russia, we saw what happened with foreign wars before that hasn't worked out. See Afghanistan and Iraq and look what your neo-con war hawks have done.

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Postby Loben III » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:46 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Loben III wrote:
maybe they should listen, things would progress nicely and we can get rid of those leeches.


The only leeches I know of are the tyrants whose boots you wish to lick.


funny joke. tell another.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:52 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Loben III wrote:
maybe they should listen, things would progress nicely and we can get rid of those leeches.


The only leeches I know of are the tyrants whose boots you wish to lick.

He's talking about the EU.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:52 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Okay neocon.


What's wrong with being a neo-con? Definately better than being a Trump-loving alt-righter or a pro-Xi tankie.


I mean the trail of dead Iraqi kids would suggest there is a lot wrong with being a neo-con.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:54 am

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:The only leeches I know of are the tyrants whose boots you wish to lick.

He's talking about the EU.


Yes, and he is completely wrong. The EU has kept Europe peaceful and prosperous. They are not leeches at all.

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Postby Loben III » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:54 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
What's wrong with being a neo-con? Definately better than being a Trump-loving alt-righter or a pro-Xi tankie.


I mean the trail of dead Iraqi kids would suggest there is a lot wrong with being a neo-con.


Dead Iraqis and Serbs, the lifeblood of any self respecting neo-whatever.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:54 am

Valrifell wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:The EU thinks they're the reason why Europe has been peaceful for the last 75 years *cough* bullshit *cough*, let them deal with it, Uncle Sam is tired of being the World Police.


There's only one poster advocating that line of thought and I don't think anyone in the US administration has said anything about intervention in Belarus.


You'd better believe we're intervening. When has the US ever just admirably sat out of a conflict that didn't concern it?
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Postby Loben III » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:55 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
There's only one poster advocating that line of thought and I don't think anyone in the US administration has said anything about intervention in Belarus.


You'd better believe we're intervening. When has the US ever just admirably sat out of a conflict that didn't concern it?


Americans die so Europeans dont have to, its how they like it.
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Postby -Astoria- » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:56 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:He's talking about the EU.


Yes, and he is completely wrong. The EU has kept Europe peaceful and prosperous. They are not leeches at all.

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Postby Bienenhalde » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:57 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
What's wrong with being a neo-con? Definately better than being a Trump-loving alt-righter or a pro-Xi tankie.


I mean the trail of dead Iraqi kids would suggest there is a lot wrong with being a neo-con.


>Assuming Saddam wouldn't have killed as many or more children purposefully or as a result of starting unecessary wars had he remained in office. Absolute cringe.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:57 am

Loben III wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
You'd better believe we're intervening. When has the US ever just admirably sat out of a conflict that didn't concern it?


Americans die so Europeans dont have to, its how they like it.


Haha. We're already balls deep in Ukraine and Armenia, let's not add another post-Soviet shithole to that list.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:58 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
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I mean the trail of dead Iraqi kids would suggest there is a lot wrong with being a neo-con.


>Assuming Saddam wouldn't have killed as many or more children purposefully or as a result of starting unecessary wars had he remained in office. Absolute cringe.


Basing your worldview on a made up hypothetical. Absolute cringe.

I bet you actually believe he had WMDs too.
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:58 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:He's talking about the EU.


Yes, and he is completely wrong. The EU has kept Europe peaceful and prosperous. They are not leeches at all.

No they haven't, "peaceful and prosperous" despite the wars in the 90s, and coups as well as countries like Spain having their own internal instability crisis but, y'know onwards and upwards and all that. :roll:

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Postby Bienenhalde » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:59 am

Loben III wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
You'd better believe we're intervening. When has the US ever just admirably sat out of a conflict that didn't concern it?


Americans die so Europeans dont have to, its how they like it.


I am fully in support of the EU building its own army, especially considering that they can't trust the US to help them anymore.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:00 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Exalted Inquellian State wrote:He's talking about the EU.


Yes, and he is completely wrong. The EU has kept Europe peaceful and prosperous. They are not leeches at all.


You mean the US military kept Europe peaceful and lopsided trade agreements kept it prosperous.
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Postby -Astoria- » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:00 am

Dresderstan wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
Yes, and he is completely wrong. The EU has kept Europe peaceful and prosperous. They are not leeches at all.

No they haven't, "peaceful and prosperous" despite the wars in the 90s, and coups as well as countries like Spain having their own internal instability crisis but, y'know onwards and upwards and all that. :roll:
I don't remember Serbia et al being part of the EU, but go on... :roll:
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:00 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Loben III wrote:
Americans die so Europeans dont have to, its how they like it.


I am fully in support of the EU building its own army, especially considering that they can't trust the US to help them anymore.


Help them do what, exactly?
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