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So should Spain get rid of the monarchy

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Former King of Spain flees Spain

Postby Rio Cana » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:48 pm

The former King of Spain has left Spain in a hurry after scandals which involved money laundering and tax evasion. He formally abdicated in 2014 in favor of his son also due to problems he got involved in. But the current problems are so serious that he left Spain and is now in the Dominican Republic at a luxury home it seems he owns there. Some say he helped bring democracy to Spain while others say he was hand picked by the Spanish dictator without any public referendum. Some in Spain have pointed out that he and the royal family in general have over the years been protected by the press. That any inappropriate thing the royals did was not reported on. While on the other hand they have glorified the royals. So what should Spain do now. I think its time to get rid of the monarchy. Spain has outgrown it.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:05 pm

Bring down the monarchy, once and for all. He may not be the king any more, but it is time we moved beyond long useless institutions.
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Postby Jedi Council » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:15 pm

Despite being a supporting of constitutional monarchies in general, Juan Carlos strikes me as pretty shady.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:19 pm

I guess it is not always

Good to be the king.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:47 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:I guess it is not always

Good to be the king.

And, really, there should be a King of Spain. The world would be less interesting if there wasn't. I suppose, if the Spanish people decide to get rid of the monarchy, the family could fall back on one of their other titles, like, say, King of Jerusalem.
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Postby Flarmsburg » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:03 pm

Fun fact, Spain is one of the countries that a claim to the title of Roman Emperor should it happen again. It won't, but they have the legal claim since it's passed on through will.

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Postby Heloin » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:04 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I guess it is not always

Good to be the king.

And, really, there should be a King of Spain. The world would be less interesting if there wasn't. I suppose, if the Spanish people decide to get rid of the monarchy, the family could fall back on one of their other titles, like, say, King of Jerusalem.

I'm sure that won't upset an incredibly stable and friendly situation wherever this "Jerusalem" is.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:00 pm

bye bitch lmao.

Dude messed up big time.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:18 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I guess it is not always

Good to be the king.

And, really, there should be a King of Spain. The world would be less interesting if there wasn't. I suppose, if the Spanish people decide to get rid of the monarchy, the family could fall back on one of their other titles, like, say, King of Jerusalem.

Not to mention the Dutch would need to change their anthem if there is no Spanish king. Which would get it removed from the Guiness book of records and make everybody sad.
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Postby Heloin » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:23 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:And, really, there should be a King of Spain. The world would be less interesting if there wasn't. I suppose, if the Spanish people decide to get rid of the monarchy, the family could fall back on one of their other titles, like, say, King of Jerusalem.

Not to mention the Dutch would need to change their anthem if there is no Spanish king. Which would get it removed from the Guiness book of records and make everybody sad.

I think its even funnier for a national anthem to pledge it's loyalty to a foreign monarch of a country that got rid of it.

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Postby Godular » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:24 pm

The King in Spain leaves mainly in a plane?

Would it be better to use 'The Reign in Spain?'
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Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:25 pm

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Postby Aeritai » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:27 pm

Nobody expects the Spanish King to leave!

In all seriousness is he going to have charges placed on him or is he just going to chill out in his vacation spot?
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Postby Godular » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:28 pm

Aeritai wrote:Nobody expects the Spanish King to leave!

In all seriousness is going to have charges placed on him or is he just going to chill out in his vacation spot?


Does anybody expect a spanish extradition?
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Postby Heloin » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:29 pm

Godular wrote:
Aeritai wrote:Nobody expects the Spanish King to leave!

In all seriousness is going to have charges placed on him or is he just going to chill out in his vacation spot?


Does anybody expect a spanish extradition?

Three Spanish ships being lead by a Italian have arrived in Hispaniola today under orders from the Spanish government.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:30 pm

Heloin wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:Not to mention the Dutch would need to change their anthem if there is no Spanish king. Which would get it removed from the Guiness book of records and make everybody sad.

I think its even funnier for a national anthem to pledge it's loyalty to a foreign monarch of a country that got rid of it.

Technically the Dutch anthem is a longwinded declaration stating "I know the King of Spain is gods chosen representative on earth, but God himself orders us to kick him out" - not a pledge of loyalty ;)

However, it is funny that the song was only made the anthem centuries after the Spanish were removed.
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:31 pm

Godular wrote:
Aeritai wrote:Nobody expects the Spanish King to leave!

In all seriousness is going to have charges placed on him or is he just going to chill out in his vacation spot?


Does anybody expect a spanish extradition?

If nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition, how could anybody expect a Spanish Extradition?
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Postby Federation of American States » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:32 pm

so Franco should of installed someone else as King i guess ?
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Postby Godular » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:32 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
Godular wrote:
Does anybody expect a spanish extradition?

If nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition, how could anybody expect a Spanish Extradition?


Send the Inquisition to conduct the extradition, and when they're in position, commence the requisition.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:33 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
Godular wrote:
Does anybody expect a spanish extradition?

If nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition, how could anybody expect a Spanish Extradition?

To be fair, the Spanish Inquisition always announced their coming well in advance in writing, so you could put your affairs in order.
Realism would have made the sketch dull though.
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:33 pm

Godular wrote:
Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:If nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition, how could anybody expect a Spanish Extradition?


Send the Inquisition to conduct the extradition, and when they're in position, commence the requisition.

But what about the opposition?
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Postby Federation of American States » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:33 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:If nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition, how could anybody expect a Spanish Extradition?

To be fair, the Spanish Inquisition always announced their coming well in advance in writing, so you could put your affairs in order.
Realism would have made the sketch dull though.

actually monty python could of made it work.
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Postby Godular » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:35 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
Godular wrote:
Send the Inquisition to conduct the extradition, and when they're in position, commence the requisition.

But what about the opposition?


The Dominican Republic is largely Catholic, so it should be easy to spread sedition.

(In retrospect, a better line would have been "Relying on sedition, they could avoid any attrition.")
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:37 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I guess it is not always

Good to be the king.

And, really, there should be a King of Spain. The world would be less interesting if there wasn't. I suppose, if the Spanish people decide to get rid of the monarchy, the family could fall back on one of their other titles, like, say, King of Jerusalem.

Good point, I agree with you. I support constitutional monarchies, under democratic multi political party nations and governments.
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:38 pm

Godular wrote:
Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:But what about the opposition?


The Dominican Republic is largely Catholic, so it should be easy to spread sedition.

And if that fails, what's the betting one takes the nuclear option that is rendition?
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