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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:00 pm
by The New California Republic
Fartsniffage wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:
Good lord, I hope you are right!


If it was a radiological attack then Western nations would be in overdrive right now.

Yes, such a thing would have been detected very early on.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:00 pm
by Andsed

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:00 pm
by Major-Tom
The New California Republic wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:I’m not a conspiratorial person, but after seeing footage of the blast and how insanely powerful it appeared (IE its shockwave evidently traveling for many miles in bursts), is there anyone with a better science prowess than myself that can explain to me how a warehouse fire could have resulted in such an unbelievably powerful explosion that sent shockwaves all the way to Cyprus?

I simply can’t fathom it being anything other than a coordinated attack, but this isn’t my area of expertise so I’m open to hearing what people with a better scientific background can say about this.

I don't think it was. You can see it burning before the explosion, and ammonium nitrate does tend to explode when it has been burning for a certain amount of time. And given that we are talking about thousands of tons of ammonium nitrate going up at once, it's not surprising that this was the effect.


I believe it was ammonium nitrate and accidental, I had just never heard of it's raw power until, well, today.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:01 pm
by Neanderthaland
Alcala-Cordel wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/aug/04/beirut-explosion-huge-blast-port-lebanon-capital


Lebanon's PM says it was a caused by 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate and the government does not think this was an attack.

Well that's... "good" is the wrong word.

"Preferable" I guess?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:02 pm
by Northwest Slobovia
Major-Tom wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I don't think it was. You can see it burning before the explosion, and ammonium nitrate does tend to explode when it has been burning for a certain amount of time. And given that we are talking about thousands of tons of ammonium nitrate going up at once, it's not surprising that this was the effect.


I believe it was ammonium nitrate and accidental, I had just never heard of it's raw power until, well, today.

2,700 tons of any high explosive makes a big boom.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:02 pm
by Andsed
Neanderthaland wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/aug/04/beirut-explosion-huge-blast-port-lebanon-capital


Lebanon's PM says it was a caused by 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate and the government does not think this was an attack.

Well that's... "good" is the wrong word.

"Preferable" I guess?

I mean it being a freak accident does mean there will hopefully be no follow up. So thats ¨¨nice.¨¨

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:05 pm
by Aeritai
At least it debunks the whole 'Isreal Did It!' Conspiracy theory that I saw in the YouTube comments.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:07 pm
by The New California Republic
Major-Tom wrote:I believe it was ammonium nitrate and accidental, I had just never heard of it's raw power until, well, today.

Yes it's very dangerous and is often made into bombs. Farms have stocks of it as fertilizer, and if any is stolen then they have a duty to report it to the police immediately.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:09 pm
by Agarntrop
The New California Republic wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:I believe it was ammonium nitrate and accidental, I had just never heard of it's raw power until, well, today.

Yes it's very dangerous and is often made into bombs. Farms have stocks of it as fertilizer, and if any is stolen then they have a duty to report it to the police immediately.

AN is fertalizer?

So its basically the same stuff that was used to bomb OKC in 1995?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:11 pm
by Heloin
The New California Republic wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:I believe it was ammonium nitrate and accidental, I had just never heard of it's raw power until, well, today.

Yes it's very dangerous and is often made into bombs. Farms have stocks of it as fertilizer, and if any is stolen then they have a duty to report it to the police immediately.

And it's very often stored in large bulk with little security or safety checks in place. Which is always fun to think about.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:12 pm
by The New California Republic
Agarntrop wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Yes it's very dangerous and is often made into bombs. Farms have stocks of it as fertilizer, and if any is stolen then they have a duty to report it to the police immediately.

AN is fertalizer?

So its basically the same stuff that was used to bomb OKC in 1995?

Yes.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:14 pm
by State of Turelisa

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:15 pm
by Andsed
Heloin wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Yes it's very dangerous and is often made into bombs. Farms have stocks of it as fertilizer, and if any is stolen then they have a duty to report it to the police immediately.

And it's very often stored in large bulk with little security or safety checks in place. Which is always fun to think about.

Which is what likely happened here. Corporate greed, getting people killed since corporations fucking existed.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:15 pm
by Bombadil
Major-Tom wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I don't think it was. You can see it burning before the explosion, and ammonium nitrate does tend to explode when it has been burning for a certain amount of time. And given that we are talking about thousands of tons of ammonium nitrate going up at once, it's not surprising that this was the effect.


I believe it was ammonium nitrate and accidental, I had just never heard of it's raw power until, well, today.


Same thing happened in Tianjin a few years back, and apparently it happened in Texas a long while ago and took out two planes flying overhead.

On the morning of April 16, 1947, the French-owned Grandcamp was preparing to finish loading a consignment of ammonium nitrate fertilizer at the port of Texas City, near Galveston. About 8:00 AM crew members noticed smoke in the cargo area, where 2,300 tons of the fertilizer had already been stowed. In order to keep the cargo intact, the crew decided not to use water to extinguish the fire; they instead tried, unsuccessfully, to snuff out the flames. Shortly after 9:00 AM the temperature inside the cargo area had risen enough to spark a massive explosion that was heard as far as 150 miles (240 km) away. The resulting fire destroyed the dock area and engulfed the nearby Monsanto Chemical Company plant. A mushroom cloud rose 2,000 feet (600 metres) into the air, and two small planes passing above were destroyed.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:21 pm
by The New California Republic
Bombadil wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
I believe it was ammonium nitrate and accidental, I had just never heard of it's raw power until, well, today.


Same thing happened in Tianjin a few years back, and apparently it happened in Texas a long while ago and took out two planes flying overhead.

On the morning of April 16, 1947, the French-owned Grandcamp was preparing to finish loading a consignment of ammonium nitrate fertilizer at the port of Texas City, near Galveston. About 8:00 AM crew members noticed smoke in the cargo area, where 2,300 tons of the fertilizer had already been stowed. In order to keep the cargo intact, the crew decided not to use water to extinguish the fire; they instead tried, unsuccessfully, to snuff out the flames. Shortly after 9:00 AM the temperature inside the cargo area had risen enough to spark a massive explosion that was heard as far as 150 miles (240 km) away. The resulting fire destroyed the dock area and engulfed the nearby Monsanto Chemical Company plant. A mushroom cloud rose 2,000 feet (600 metres) into the air, and two small planes passing above were destroyed.

I think if there had been any airliners flying in the vicinity during this explosion then the shockwave likely would have brought them down.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:22 pm
by Aeritai


Might want to add a graphic warning to your post.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:26 pm
by The New California Republic
Aeritai wrote:


Might want to add a graphic warning to your post.

...is it graphic though? You don't actually see anyone getting injured or killed in it, or any gore etc.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:30 pm
by Aeritai
The New California Republic wrote:
Aeritai wrote:
Might want to add a graphic warning to your post.

...is it graphic though? You don't actually see anyone getting injured or killed in it, or any gore etc.


Actually yeah nevermind it isn't graphic.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:59 pm
by The Yellow Emperor

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:03 pm
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum
Political Islam is bad, it must be destroyed.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:05 pm
by Neanderthaland
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Political Islam is bad, it must be destroyed.

And what does that have to do with anything?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:06 pm
by Heloin
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Political Islam is bad, it must be destroyed.

Ok. And this has to do with this how?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:14 pm
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum
Neanderthaland wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Political Islam is bad, it must be destroyed.

And what does that have to do with anything?
Heloin wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Political Islam is bad, it must be destroyed.

Ok. And this has to do with this how?
Those who bombed were ISID militants.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:16 pm
by Northwest Slobovia
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:And what does that have to do with anything?
Heloin wrote:Ok. And this has to do with this how?
Those who bombed were ISID militants.

There is no evidence this is a terror attack, and video evidence that strongly suggests it was an accident.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:18 pm
by Heloin
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:And what does that have to do with anything?
Heloin wrote:Ok. And this has to do with this how?
Those who bombed were ISID militants.

Have you read the news or just watched the videos?