Large explosion in Beirut - hundreds reported injured

[Nobel Hobos 2]

They were welding up a small hole somewhere in the building to prevent theft.

Yeah some of the farmers had stolen some of the ammonium nitrate to use in their fields and the government didn't want that.

Is that you speculating, or did you read that somewhere?

[Andsed]

Yes. You are the one sharing them so they are your conspiracy theories.

Explosive bomb making material was stock piled at a port in a country known for civil wars. Theres nothing remotely crazy about thinking it may have been there cause someone was using it to build bombs.

At a glance maybe. But, seeing as according to what I have heard this was seized by government officials and were only kept around through negligence and incompetence, the idea of it being secretly used to make bombs feels far fetched. Especially since this stuff is also used as fertilizer it feels more likely it was just being kept around for that and the government was just being really incompetent in handling it.

[Bombadil]

Welding work going on at the doors of the warehouse. A fire.

Wait, they were welding next to a giant immense pile of ammonium nitrate?

"Jim, we need to update the safety manual.."

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Wait, they were welding next to a giant immense pile of ammonium nitrate?

"Jim, we need to update the safety manual.."

No rocket launchers near the Ammonium Nitrate
No firearms near the Ammonium Nitrate
No fireworks near the Ammonium Nitrate
No liquid fuel near the Ammonium Nitrate
No pranks with detonators, guys do we really need to say this?
No welding near the Ammonium Nitrate

There. Think maybe we should add No Smoking?

[Godular]

"Jim, we need to update the safety manual.."

No rocket launchers near the Ammonium Nitrate
No firearms near the Ammonium Nitrate
No fireworks near the Ammonium Nitrate
No liquid fuel near the Ammonium Nitrate
No pranks with detonators, guys do we really need to say this?
No welding near the Ammonium Nitrate

There. Think maybe we should add No Smoking?

*BOOM*

Yes.

[Costa Fierro]

Yeah some of the farmers had stolen some of the ammonium nitrate to use in their fields and the government didn't want that.

Is that you speculating, or did you read that somewhere?

The welding is also unconfirmed, but it wouldn't surprise me, although each bag weighs approximately one ton.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Is that you speculating, or did you read that somewhere?

The welding is also unconfirmed, but it wouldn't surprise me, although each bag weighs approximately one ton.

I remember a smaller but equally horrible disaster where a dozen people burned to death around a crashed petrol road-tanker.

The crash was over, there was no fire. The people were scooping up petrol in whatever containers they could find, and getting it on them obviously. Then whoompf ... probably some idiot with a cigarette.

[Heloin]

The welding is also unconfirmed, but it wouldn't surprise me, although each bag weighs approximately one ton.

I remember a smaller but equally horrible disaster where a dozen people burned to death around a crashed petrol road-tanker.

The crash was over, there was no fire. The people were scooping up petrol in whatever containers they could find, and getting it on them obviously. Then whoompf ... probably some idiot with a cigarette.

Unlikely. Sure there are idiots out there but it’s more likely something caused a spark or there was an electric discharge for that.

[Costa Fierro]

I remember a smaller but equally horrible disaster where a dozen people burned to death around a crashed petrol road-tanker.

The crash was over, there was no fire. The people were scooping up petrol in whatever containers they could find, and getting it on them obviously. Then whoompf ... probably some idiot with a cigarette.

Happens more often than you think.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

I remember a smaller but equally horrible disaster where a dozen people burned to death around a crashed petrol road-tanker.

The crash was over, there was no fire. The people were scooping up petrol in whatever containers they could find, and getting it on them obviously. Then whoompf ... probably some idiot with a cigarette.

Unlikely. Sure there are idiots out there but it’s more likely something caused a spark or there was an electric discharge for that.

Deaths were a lot more than I remembered.

Actually the one I remembered was probably this, 101 people killed.

Beware of free stuff!

[Nobel Hobos 2]

I remember a smaller but equally horrible disaster where a dozen people burned to death around a crashed petrol road-tanker.

The crash was over, there was no fire. The people were scooping up petrol in whatever containers they could find, and getting it on them obviously. Then whoompf ... probably some idiot with a cigarette.

Happens more often than you think.

But not really in the West. A couple of dollars worth of fuel means less to us.

[Rusozak]

Unlikely. Sure there are idiots out there but it’s more likely something caused a spark or there was an electric discharge for that.

Deaths were a lot more than I remembered.

Actually the one I remembered was probably this, 101 people killed.

Beware of free stuff!

And I think last year, a similar situation with a busted open pipeline in Mexico. Probably sparked by static electricity. Imagine how many times a day you would burst into flames if you were surrounded by flammable vapor.

[Heloin]

Unlikely. Sure there are idiots out there but it’s more likely something caused a spark or there was an electric discharge for that.

Deaths were a lot more than I remembered.

Actually the one I remembered was probably this, 101 people killed.

Beware of free stuff!

I meant the cigarette part.

[Galloism]

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-big ... oab-2020-8

Estimates are the blast was between a few hundred tons and a kiloton of TNT equivalent.

Like someone used a Davy Crockett. About that big.

[Heloin]

Happens more often than you think.

But not really in the West. A couple of dollars worth of fuel means less to us.

In the west means nothing. Industrial safety standard enforcement doesn’t change as much as you’d think country to country in industrialised and industrialising countries with a couple exceptions.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

But not really in the West. A couple of dollars worth of fuel means less to us.

In the west means nothing. Industrial safety standard enforcement doesn’t change as much as you’d think country to country in industrialised and industrialising countries with a couple exceptions.

Give me an example then. One petrol tanker crashing and over a hundred people dying. In the West.

[Rusozak]

In the west means nothing. Industrial safety standard enforcement doesn’t change as much as you’d think country to country in industrialised and industrialising countries with a couple exceptions.

Give me an example then. One petrol tanker crashing and over a hundred people dying. In the West.

A pipeline, not a tanker, but close enough. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlahuelil ... _explosion

[The Yellow Emperor]

The government were told multiple times to get rid of them but they kept delaying it/not bothered with it... It's unanimously agreed that Lebanon would be gone soon (This is a shared remark by my best friend's relatives who are Lebanese themselves.) Most likely gross negligence conduct on the government themselves, and the people storing such item...

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Give me an example then. One petrol tanker crashing and over a hundred people dying. In the West.

A pipeline, not a tanker, but close enough. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlahuelil ... _explosion

Not close enough, no. Fuel under pressure formed a fountain, which went on for hours.

There is something un-Western about the response of police there, too. Because the leak went on so long, it is really culpably bad policing not to turn up and shoo the people away. The examples I gave before don't make any reflection good or bad on the police of Pakistan or Nairobi, since I don't know if it was possible for them to get there in time.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

The government were told multiple times to get rid of them but they kept delaying it/not bothered with it... It's unanimously agreed that Lebanon would be gone soon (This is a shared remark by my best friend's relatives who are Lebanese themselves.) Most likely gross negligence conduct on the government themselves, and the people storing such item...

Lebanese who don't live there told you "Lebanon would be gone soon" ... and you think that's enough to repeat the claim here. ?

[The Yellow Emperor]

The government were told multiple times to get rid of them but they kept delaying it/not bothered with it... It's unanimously agreed that Lebanon would be gone soon (This is a shared remark by my best friend's relatives who are Lebanese themselves.) Most likely gross negligence conduct on the government themselves, and the people storing such item...

Lebanese who don't live there told you "Lebanon would be gone soon" ... and you think that's enough to repeat the claim here. ?

He has lived prior to moving here, I won't claim it would be gone soon, although I did comment on that remark...

[Vistulange]

Yeah some of the farmers had stolen some of the ammonium nitrate to use in their fields and the government didn't want that.

Is that you speculating, or did you read that somewhere?

It's G&D, which one do you think it is?

[Purpelia]

How is the corpse count going at this time? I figure we have a final total? Are there even any corpses?

[The Alma Mater]

How is the corpse count going at this time? I figure we have a final total? Are there even any corpses?

Sofar 135 corpses, 5000 wounded,200.000 homeless.
Many are expected to be still buried under rubble; teams with dogs from all over the world are arriving to assist with searching.

[The New California Republic]

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-big-was-the-explosion-that-devastated-beirut-moab-2020-8

Estimates are the blast was between a few hundred tons and a kiloton of TNT equivalent.

Like someone used a Davy Crockett. About that big.

Some estimates have it starting at 1 kiloton and going up to 1.5, and if anything the effects of the blast such as crater size and damage radii fit better with 1.5 kilotons.