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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:45 pm

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Or a two-head bear. I hear the scent of Patchouli, was smelled before the blast.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patchouli

That's a plant. Not even in Lebanon.

The plant gives off a scent associated with the hippie culture of California. It really is quite lovely
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Postby Santheres » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:51 pm

If this thread becomes just "This is a conspiracy" -> "Is not" -> "Is so" again, then it's getting locked. If you can't have a real discussion, then stop posting.

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Postby La xinga » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:53 pm

Santheres wrote:If this thread becomes just "This is a conspiracy" -> "Is not" -> "Is so" again, then it's getting locked. If you can't have a real discussion, then stop posting.

There's no need to act like children, even if you legally are one.

Thank you!

I'm sorry if this is my fault, I'm not sure if you mean me or everyone.

Anyway, to get back on topic, this explosion has been ruining weddings!

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Postby Agarntrop » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:03 pm

La xinga wrote:
Santheres wrote:If this thread becomes just "This is a conspiracy" -> "Is not" -> "Is so" again, then it's getting locked. If you can't have a real discussion, then stop posting.

There's no need to act like children, even if you legally are one.

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I'm sorry if this is my fault, I'm not sure if you mean me or everyone.

Anyway, to get back on topic, this explosion has been ruining weddings!

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/0 ... w-orig.cnn

Thats the least of our concerns when its ruined thousands of lives and taken hundreds.
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Postby La xinga » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:06 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
La xinga wrote:I'm sorry if this is my fault, I'm not sure if you mean me or everyone.

Anyway, to get back on topic, this explosion has been ruining weddings!

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/0 ... w-orig.cnn

Thats the least of our concerns when its ruined thousands of lives and taken hundreds.

True, I just wanted to get the topic back on track. Are the gov buildings okay?
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:16 pm

La xinga wrote:Anyway, to get back on topic, this explosion has been ruining weddings!

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/0 ... w-orig.cnn

Who cares? Folk have been killed and injured...
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Postby Region of Dwipantara » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:23 pm

I'm pretty sure the "culprit" is these welding workers as documented by photograph, though that means the real culprit is gross negligence on the warehouse's side. Anyways, this will likely be "Lebanon's Chernobyl" that significantly increases resentment against the establishment.
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Postby Picairn » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:29 pm

I'm still not sure how the ammonium nitrate was contaminated with oil though, since it requires 4%-5% of oil to become an explosive.
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La xinga wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Thats the least of our concerns when its ruined thousands of lives and taken hundreds.

True, I just wanted to get the topic back on track. Are the gov buildings okay?

Given that most buildings in Beirut are damaged, they probably are too. This collection of photos of the damage shows that the parliament chamber is damaged (about half-way down) so it would be reasonable to conclude that whatever government building it's in is in bad shape.
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Postby Rio Cana » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:46 pm

Region of Dwipantara wrote:I'm pretty sure the "culprit" is these welding workers as documented by photograph, though that means the real culprit is gross negligence on the warehouse's side. Anyways, this will likely be "Lebanon's Chernobyl" that significantly increases resentment against the establishment.


Seems Lebanon does not have an OSHA office. The real fault is the people who let that fertilizer stay stored for six years. It should have been sold off or given no charge to farmers.
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Postby Region of Dwipantara » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:53 pm

Rio Cana wrote:
Region of Dwipantara wrote:I'm pretty sure the "culprit" is these welding workers as documented by photograph, though that means the real culprit is gross negligence on the warehouse's side. Anyways, this will likely be "Lebanon's Chernobyl" that significantly increases resentment against the establishment.


Seems Lebanon does not have an OSHA office. The real fault is the people who let that fertilizer stay stored for six years. It should have been sold off or given no charge to farmers.

Considering that even the prime minister can't save himself from getting blown up by the equivalent of 1000 kg of explosives in 2005, and the general state of the country right now (budget crisis, civil disobedience...), working security enforcement seems to have a low priority.
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Postby Heloin » Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:02 pm

Picairn wrote:I'm still not sure how the ammonium nitrate was contaminated with oil though, since it requires 4%-5% of oil to become an explosive.

No, oxidation of the ammonium nitrate and six years in a warehouse on a waterfront.
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:23 pm

Picairn wrote:I'm still not sure how the ammonium nitrate was contaminated with oil though, since it requires 4%-5% of oil to become an explosive.

I'm not sure where people get this idea that it's only an explosive in mixtures, but ammonium nitrate will blow up all by itself. It's a relatively common accident.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:30 pm

Northwest Slobovia wrote:
Picairn wrote:I'm still not sure how the ammonium nitrate was contaminated with oil though, since it requires 4%-5% of oil to become an explosive.

I'm not sure where people get this idea that it's only an explosive in mixtures, but ammonium nitrate will blow up all by itself. It's a relatively common accident.

Especially since it had been burning for some time before it exploded, which it has been known to do as well.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:54 pm

Region of Dwipantara wrote:
Rio Cana wrote:
Seems Lebanon does not have an OSHA office. The real fault is the people who let that fertilizer stay stored for six years. It should have been sold off or given no charge to farmers.

Considering that even the prime minister can't save himself from getting blown up by the equivalent of 1000 kg of explosives in 2005, and the general state of the country right now (budget crisis, civil disobedience...), working security enforcement seems to have a low priority.

With all the political problems going on in the country, the Beirut explosion is a culmination of negligence, incompetence, and mismanagement by their government.
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Yes. You are the one sharing them so they are your conspiracy theories.


Explosive bomb making material was stock piled at a port in a country known for civil wars. Theres nothing remotely crazy about thinking it may have been there cause someone was using it to build bombs.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:59 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:Welding work going on at the doors of the warehouse. A fire.

Wait, they were welding next to a giant immense pile of ammonium nitrate?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:04 pm

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Fartsniffage wrote:Welding work going on at the doors of the warehouse. A fire.

Wait, they were welding next to a giant immense pile of ammonium nitrate?


Those welders were screwed.
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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:17 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Galloism wrote:Wait, they were welding next to a giant immense pile of ammonium nitrate?


Those welders were screwed.


I would say punish the welders but I don't think their bodies have been turned to dust.
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Region of Dwipantara wrote:Considering that even the prime minister can't save himself from getting blown up by the equivalent of 1000 kg of explosives in 2005, and the general state of the country right now (budget crisis, civil disobedience...), working security enforcement seems to have a low priority.

With all the political problems going on in the country, the Beirut explosion is a culmination of negligence, incompetence, and mismanagement by their government.


I wonder if the political ramifications of this could be a renewed civil war given the instability of the country. The government just advertised it's incompetence to the people in literally the loudest way possible.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:22 pm

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Fartsniffage wrote:Welding work going on at the doors of the warehouse. A fire.

Wait, they were welding next to a giant immense pile of ammonium nitrate?


They were welding up a small hole somewhere in the building to prevent theft.
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Galloism wrote:Wait, they were welding next to a giant immense pile of ammonium nitrate?


They were welding up a small hole somewhere in the building to prevent theft.

How would that prevent theft? If anything, it will do the opposite.
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They were welding up a small hole somewhere in the building to prevent theft.

How would that prevent theft? If anything, it will do the opposite.

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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:41 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Galloism wrote:Wait, they were welding next to a giant immense pile of ammonium nitrate?


They were welding up a small hole somewhere in the building to prevent theft.



Yeah some of the farmers had stolen some of the ammonium nitrate to use in their fields and the government didn't want that.
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