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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:00 pm

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Good lord, I hope you are right!


If it was a radiological attack then Western nations would be in overdrive right now.

Yes, such a thing would have been detected very early on.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:00 pm

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Major-Tom wrote:I’m not a conspiratorial person, but after seeing footage of the blast and how insanely powerful it appeared (IE its shockwave evidently traveling for many miles in bursts), is there anyone with a better science prowess than myself that can explain to me how a warehouse fire could have resulted in such an unbelievably powerful explosion that sent shockwaves all the way to Cyprus?

I simply can’t fathom it being anything other than a coordinated attack, but this isn’t my area of expertise so I’m open to hearing what people with a better scientific background can say about this.

I don't think it was. You can see it burning before the explosion, and ammonium nitrate does tend to explode when it has been burning for a certain amount of time. And given that we are talking about thousands of tons of ammonium nitrate going up at once, it's not surprising that this was the effect.


I believe it was ammonium nitrate and accidental, I had just never heard of it's raw power until, well, today.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:01 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/aug/04/beirut-explosion-huge-blast-port-lebanon-capital


Lebanon's PM says it was a caused by 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate and the government does not think this was an attack.

Well that's... "good" is the wrong word.

"Preferable" I guess?
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:02 pm

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The New California Republic wrote:I don't think it was. You can see it burning before the explosion, and ammonium nitrate does tend to explode when it has been burning for a certain amount of time. And given that we are talking about thousands of tons of ammonium nitrate going up at once, it's not surprising that this was the effect.


I believe it was ammonium nitrate and accidental, I had just never heard of it's raw power until, well, today.

2,700 tons of any high explosive makes a big boom.
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Postby Andsed » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:02 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Alcala-Cordel wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/aug/04/beirut-explosion-huge-blast-port-lebanon-capital


Lebanon's PM says it was a caused by 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate and the government does not think this was an attack.

Well that's... "good" is the wrong word.

"Preferable" I guess?

I mean it being a freak accident does mean there will hopefully be no follow up. So thats ¨¨nice.¨¨
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Postby Aeritai » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:05 pm

At least it debunks the whole 'Isreal Did It!' Conspiracy theory that I saw in the YouTube comments.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:07 pm

Major-Tom wrote:I believe it was ammonium nitrate and accidental, I had just never heard of it's raw power until, well, today.

Yes it's very dangerous and is often made into bombs. Farms have stocks of it as fertilizer, and if any is stolen then they have a duty to report it to the police immediately.
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Postby Agarntrop » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:09 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:I believe it was ammonium nitrate and accidental, I had just never heard of it's raw power until, well, today.

Yes it's very dangerous and is often made into bombs. Farms have stocks of it as fertilizer, and if any is stolen then they have a duty to report it to the police immediately.

AN is fertalizer?

So its basically the same stuff that was used to bomb OKC in 1995?
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Postby Heloin » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:11 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:I believe it was ammonium nitrate and accidental, I had just never heard of it's raw power until, well, today.

Yes it's very dangerous and is often made into bombs. Farms have stocks of it as fertilizer, and if any is stolen then they have a duty to report it to the police immediately.

And it's very often stored in large bulk with little security or safety checks in place. Which is always fun to think about.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:12 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Yes it's very dangerous and is often made into bombs. Farms have stocks of it as fertilizer, and if any is stolen then they have a duty to report it to the police immediately.

AN is fertalizer?

So its basically the same stuff that was used to bomb OKC in 1995?

Yes.
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Postby Andsed » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:15 pm

Heloin wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Yes it's very dangerous and is often made into bombs. Farms have stocks of it as fertilizer, and if any is stolen then they have a duty to report it to the police immediately.

And it's very often stored in large bulk with little security or safety checks in place. Which is always fun to think about.

Which is what likely happened here. Corporate greed, getting people killed since corporations fucking existed.
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Postby Bombadil » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:15 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I don't think it was. You can see it burning before the explosion, and ammonium nitrate does tend to explode when it has been burning for a certain amount of time. And given that we are talking about thousands of tons of ammonium nitrate going up at once, it's not surprising that this was the effect.


I believe it was ammonium nitrate and accidental, I had just never heard of it's raw power until, well, today.


Same thing happened in Tianjin a few years back, and apparently it happened in Texas a long while ago and took out two planes flying overhead.

On the morning of April 16, 1947, the French-owned Grandcamp was preparing to finish loading a consignment of ammonium nitrate fertilizer at the port of Texas City, near Galveston. About 8:00 AM crew members noticed smoke in the cargo area, where 2,300 tons of the fertilizer had already been stowed. In order to keep the cargo intact, the crew decided not to use water to extinguish the fire; they instead tried, unsuccessfully, to snuff out the flames. Shortly after 9:00 AM the temperature inside the cargo area had risen enough to spark a massive explosion that was heard as far as 150 miles (240 km) away. The resulting fire destroyed the dock area and engulfed the nearby Monsanto Chemical Company plant. A mushroom cloud rose 2,000 feet (600 metres) into the air, and two small planes passing above were destroyed.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:21 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
I believe it was ammonium nitrate and accidental, I had just never heard of it's raw power until, well, today.


Same thing happened in Tianjin a few years back, and apparently it happened in Texas a long while ago and took out two planes flying overhead.

On the morning of April 16, 1947, the French-owned Grandcamp was preparing to finish loading a consignment of ammonium nitrate fertilizer at the port of Texas City, near Galveston. About 8:00 AM crew members noticed smoke in the cargo area, where 2,300 tons of the fertilizer had already been stowed. In order to keep the cargo intact, the crew decided not to use water to extinguish the fire; they instead tried, unsuccessfully, to snuff out the flames. Shortly after 9:00 AM the temperature inside the cargo area had risen enough to spark a massive explosion that was heard as far as 150 miles (240 km) away. The resulting fire destroyed the dock area and engulfed the nearby Monsanto Chemical Company plant. A mushroom cloud rose 2,000 feet (600 metres) into the air, and two small planes passing above were destroyed.

I think if there had been any airliners flying in the vicinity during this explosion then the shockwave likely would have brought them down.
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Might want to add a graphic warning to your post.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:26 pm

Aeritai wrote:


Might want to add a graphic warning to your post.

...is it graphic though? You don't actually see anyone getting injured or killed in it, or any gore etc.
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The New California Republic wrote:
Aeritai wrote:
Might want to add a graphic warning to your post.

...is it graphic though? You don't actually see anyone getting injured or killed in it, or any gore etc.


Actually yeah nevermind it isn't graphic.
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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Political Islam is bad, it must be destroyed.

And what does that have to do with anything?
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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Political Islam is bad, it must be destroyed.

Ok. And this has to do with this how?
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Neanderthaland wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Political Islam is bad, it must be destroyed.

And what does that have to do with anything?
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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Political Islam is bad, it must be destroyed.

Ok. And this has to do with this how?
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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:And what does that have to do with anything?
Heloin wrote:Ok. And this has to do with this how?
Those who bombed were ISID militants.

There is no evidence this is a terror attack, and video evidence that strongly suggests it was an accident.
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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:And what does that have to do with anything?
Heloin wrote:Ok. And this has to do with this how?
Those who bombed were ISID militants.

Have you read the news or just watched the videos?
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