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by Punainen Suomi » Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:58 pm
by Ethel mermania » Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:59 pm
Fartsniffage wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:A fireworks factory in the middle of city, sure it was.
And epstein killed himself.
It wasn't in the middle of the city. It wasn't a fireworks factory, it was a warehouse with a couple of thousand tonnes of ammonium nitrate.
Give your take it might actually possible Epstein did kill himself....
by Ethel mermania » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:01 pm
by Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:04 pm
Ethel mermania wrote:Fartsniffage wrote:
It wasn't in the middle of the city. It wasn't a fireworks factory, it was a warehouse with a couple of thousand tonnes of ammonium nitrate.
Give your take it might actually possible Epstein did kill himself....
The initial story I read, and the op stated fireworks factory. Beruit is a large city, the port is the middle of it. My first thought was hezbollah storage location. It still would not surprise me if this was still the case.
Tbf it is possible epstein did kill himself, but I doubt it
by Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:05 pm
Punainen Suomi wrote:Sounds quite similar to the 2015 Tianjin explosions, being caused by ammonium nitrate stored at a port. I would guess it was to be used as fertiliser or something like that.
by The New California Republic » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:07 pm
by Fartsniffage » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:08 pm
Ethel mermania wrote:Fartsniffage wrote:
It wasn't in the middle of the city. It wasn't a fireworks factory, it was a warehouse with a couple of thousand tonnes of ammonium nitrate.
Give your take it might actually possible Epstein did kill himself....
The initial story I read, and the op stated fireworks factory. Beruit is a large city, the port is the middle of it. My first thought was hezbollah storage location. It still would not surprise me if this was still the case.
Tbf it is possible epstein did kill himself, but I doubt it
by Andsed » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:09 pm
The New California Republic wrote:I think once the science boffins complete their inquiry they'll put the power of the blast in the kilotons range, a level which is usually reserved for measuring the power of nuclear weapons. But even without the boffins telling me so, you can tell by the visual effects of the blast (such as the vaporisation of the air, the mushroom cloud, and the surrounding clouds literally being pushed out of the way, effects only usually seen with nuclear weapon levels of power) and the damage that the power was in the kilotons range.
by Ethel mermania » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:09 pm
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:
The initial story I read, and the op stated fireworks factory. Beruit is a large city, the port is the middle of it. My first thought was hezbollah storage location. It still would not surprise me if this was still the case.
Tbf it is possible epstein did kill himself, but I doubt it
Sniffage is the first person I've seen who isnt a news reporter or wealthy politician who suggested epstein killed himself.
by Union of Albandrite Socialist Republics » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:09 pm
Punainen Suomi wrote:Sounds quite similar to the 2015 Tianjin explosions, being caused by ammonium nitrate stored at a port. I would guess it was to be used as fertiliser or something like that.
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by Ethel mermania » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:11 pm
Fartsniffage wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:
The initial story I read, and the op stated fireworks factory. Beruit is a large city, the port is the middle of it. My first thought was hezbollah storage location. It still would not surprise me if this was still the case.
Tbf it is possible epstein did kill himself, but I doubt it
It really isn't in the middle of the city. It's on the coast so about 50% of the blast will have dissipated over the sea. If it had been in the middle of the city then the damage and casualties would already be much worse.
Thank god for small favours.
by Heloin » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:12 pm
by Major-Tom » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:13 pm
by Heloin » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:14 pm
Major-Tom wrote:I’m not a conspiratorial person, but after seeing footage of the blast and how insanely powerful it appeared (IE its shockwave evidently traveling for many miles in bursts), is there anyone with a better science prowess than myself that can explain to me how a warehouse fire could have resulted in such an unbelievably powerful explosion that sent shockwaves all the way to Cyprus?
I simply can’t fathom it being anything other than a coordinated attack, but this isn’t my area of expertise so I’m open to hearing what people with a better scientific background can say about this.
by Punainen Suomi » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:14 pm
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Punainen Suomi wrote:Sounds quite similar to the 2015 Tianjin explosions, being caused by ammonium nitrate stored at a port. I would guess it was to be used as fertiliser or something like that.
More likely bomb material knowing how things have been in Lebanon.
by Fartsniffage » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:15 pm
Major-Tom wrote:I’m not a conspiratorial person, but after seeing footage of the blast and how insanely powerful it appeared (IE its shockwave evidently traveling for many miles in bursts), is there anyone with a better science prowess than myself that can explain to me how a warehouse fire could have resulted in such an unbelievably powerful explosion that sent shockwaves all the way to Cyprus?
I simply can’t fathom it being anything other than a coordinated attack, but this isn’t my area of expertise so I’m open to hearing what people with a better scientific background can say about this.
by Major-Tom » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:16 pm
Heloin wrote:Major-Tom wrote:I’m not a conspiratorial person, but after seeing footage of the blast and how insanely powerful it appeared (IE its shockwave evidently traveling for many miles in bursts), is there anyone with a better science prowess than myself that can explain to me how a warehouse fire could have resulted in such an unbelievably powerful explosion that sent shockwaves all the way to Cyprus?
I simply can’t fathom it being anything other than a coordinated attack, but this isn’t my area of expertise so I’m open to hearing what people with a better scientific background can say about this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_ ... _disasters
by Major-Tom » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:17 pm
Fartsniffage wrote:Major-Tom wrote:I’m not a conspiratorial person, but after seeing footage of the blast and how insanely powerful it appeared (IE its shockwave evidently traveling for many miles in bursts), is there anyone with a better science prowess than myself that can explain to me how a warehouse fire could have resulted in such an unbelievably powerful explosion that sent shockwaves all the way to Cyprus?
I simply can’t fathom it being anything other than a coordinated attack, but this isn’t my area of expertise so I’m open to hearing what people with a better scientific background can say about this.
2,750 tonnes of explosive. That's a lot of bang.
by Andsed » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:18 pm
Major-Tom wrote:
I’m more than aware of ammonium nitrate fires and their subsequent disasters, but in every instance I’ve seen footage of in regards to those disasters, I’ve never seen that level of destruction and sheer force from the blast, particularly a blast that could be felt in other nations.
I’m referring to, really, an explanation on how the blast could’ve had such intensity. I guess I underestimated the power of ammonium nitrate?
by Major-Tom » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:19 pm
Andsed wrote:Major-Tom wrote:
I’m more than aware of ammonium nitrate fires and their subsequent disasters, but in every instance I’ve seen footage of in regards to those disasters, I’ve never seen that level of destruction and sheer force from the blast, particularly a blast that could be felt in other nations.
I’m referring to, really, an explanation on how the blast could’ve had such intensity. I guess I underestimated the power of ammonium nitrate?
There were nearly 2,750 tonnes of ammonium nitrate involved here. After reading the article Heloin gave that is a pretty large amount for a disaster like this.
by Heloin » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:19 pm
Major-Tom wrote:
I’m more than aware of ammonium nitrate fires and their subsequent disasters, but in every instance I’ve seen footage of in regards to those disasters, I’ve never seen that level of destruction and sheer force from the blast, particularly a blast that could be felt in other nations.
I’m referring to, really, an explanation on how the blast could’ve had such intensity. I guess I underestimated the power of ammonium nitrate?
by Punainen Suomi » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:20 pm
Andsed wrote:The New California Republic wrote:I think once the science boffins complete their inquiry they'll put the power of the blast in the kilotons range, a level which is usually reserved for measuring the power of nuclear weapons. But even without the boffins telling me so, you can tell by the visual effects of the blast (such as the vaporisation of the air, the mushroom cloud, and the surrounding clouds literally being pushed out of the way, effects only usually seen with nuclear weapon levels of power) and the damage that the power was in the kilotons range.
The blast was so powerful people in Cyprus felt the shockwave. it has to be in the kiloton range.
by Major-Tom » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:21 pm
Heloin wrote:Major-Tom wrote:
I’m more than aware of ammonium nitrate fires and their subsequent disasters, but in every instance I’ve seen footage of in regards to those disasters, I’ve never seen that level of destruction and sheer force from the blast, particularly a blast that could be felt in other nations.
Any footage you've seen hasn't had as much ammonium nitrate. As for blasts that can be felt hundreds of kilometres away https://www.britannica.com/event/Texas- ... on-of-1947I’m referring to, really, an explanation on how the blast could’ve had such intensity. I guess I underestimated the power of ammonium nitrate?
Yes.
by Fartsniffage » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:21 pm
by The Corparation » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:22 pm
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Punainen Suomi wrote:Sounds quite similar to the 2015 Tianjin explosions, being caused by ammonium nitrate stored at a port. I would guess it was to be used as fertiliser or something like that.
More likely bomb material knowing how things have been in Lebanon.
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