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Postby Drew Durrnil » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:53 pm

La xinga wrote:Religious people are more Republican while Atheists are more Democrat, while not entirely exact, they vote for yeah.

Plus, this OP seems anti-Trump and anti-religion biased. Who said Trump is bad? And even more, what does religion have to do with this?

On the Bible contradiction part, yeah, people have found answers for that. And you really, really, did not need to throw anti-religious bias into this, but your wish. Anyway, really, really, really, what about Muslims? The "Something Else" part which includes other religions voted more for Hillary than Trump!

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Postby La xinga » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:56 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:
La xinga wrote:Religious people are more Republican while Atheists are more Democrat, while not entirely exact, they vote for yeah.

Plus, this OP seems anti-Trump and anti-religion biased. Who said Trump is bad? And even more, what does religion have to do with this?

On the Bible contradiction part, yeah, people have found answers for that. And you really, really, did not need to throw anti-religious bias into this, but your wish. Anyway, really, really, really, what about Muslims? The "Something Else" part which includes other religions voted more for Hillary than Trump!

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Postby Shofercia » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:58 pm

Atheris wrote:Blaming religion for Trump is like blaming science for tear gas.


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Postby Solvokina » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:14 pm

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Postby Atheris » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:17 pm

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Atheris wrote:Blaming religion for Trump is like blaming science for tear gas.


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Postby Solvokina » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:18 pm

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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:19 pm

Not religion, there has been a segment of society that has essentially been ignored by mainline society. Trump managed to tap into that segment of the population. That population does tend to be religious though.
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Postby Auristania » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:52 pm

Neutraligon wrote:Not religion, there has been a segment of society that has essentially been ignored by mainline society. Trump managed to tap into that segment of the population. That population does tend to be religious though.

Exactly. Trump claimed to be a voice for the voiceless, similiar to Brexit.

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Postby Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:57 pm

Neutraligon wrote:Not religion, there has been a segment of society that has essentially been ignored by mainline society. Trump managed to tap into that segment of the population. That population does tend to be religious though.

Well I mean Trump also had better tactics than Clinton in the campaign. Also what section of the population did he specifically tap into?
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Postby Atheris » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:01 pm

Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Not religion, there has been a segment of society that has essentially been ignored by mainline society. Trump managed to tap into that segment of the population. That population does tend to be religious though.

Well I mean Trump also had better tactics than Clinton in the campaign. Also what section of the population did he specifically tap into?

Correctly if I'm wrong, but I think Batman means rural nationalists.
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Postby Bombadil » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:04 pm

Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Not religion, there has been a segment of society that has essentially been ignored by mainline society. Trump managed to tap into that segment of the population. That population does tend to be religious though.

Well I mean Trump also had better tactics than Clinton in the campaign. Also what section of the population did he specifically tap into?


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Postby Panslavicland » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:13 pm

We should thank devoutly religious people for helping to elect and soon to re-elect President Trump. I think its fair to say their support has been among the most unwavering right from the start. And why shouldn't it? Of course the Republicans are the only party offering religious freedom and standing up for traditional values, and among Republicans President Trump stands out above the others for his commitment to those values.

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Postby Region of Dwipantara » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:21 pm

Isn't this just a classic "use religion for political purpose"? In Indonesia, the leader of the Islamist opposition was a secular nationalist ex-general who drinks wine and doesn't pray. It's not too weird that these things happen. And religious Christians historically has voted for the Republican party, and Trump is a Republican, so the votes goes to him.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:38 pm

Alright, look.

You can call yourself whatever the fuck you want but if you don't practice what you preach, then you aren't it. Don't go and cry "NO TRUE SCOTSMAN!!!", either, because that's not how it works. Religions have teachings; if you don't follow those teachings, you don't follow that religion. Doesn't matter how many times you've gone to mass, or taken communion, or if you were baptized. If you don't follow the rules of a religion then you don't belong to it. You can say you do all you like, but that doesn't make it true. You can't claim to follow a religion you refuse to follow the rules to.

"No True Scotsman" was meant to criticize stereotyping. Stop misusing it to suit your own political agendas.
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Postby Atheris » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:38 pm

Panslavicland wrote:We should thank devoutly religious people for helping to elect and soon to re-elect President Trump. I think its fair to say their support has been among the most unwavering right from the start. And why shouldn't it? Of course the Republicans are the only party offering religious freedom and standing up for traditional values, and among Republicans President Trump stands out above the others for his commitment to those values.

As a devoutly religious person, fuck Donald Trump.
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Postby Wabberjocky » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:40 pm

Certainly trump is the spawn of Satan

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Postby Solvokina » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:42 pm

Atheris wrote: As a devoutly religious person, fuck Donald Trump.

As a devoutly non-religious person, pls do something Trump
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Postby Solvokina » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:43 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:Well I mean Trump also had better tactics than Clinton in the campaign. Also what section of the population did he specifically tap into?


The 'I can't stomach voting for Hillary' crowd.

Hillary is the sort of person to get assassinated through the white house
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Postby Region of Dwipantara » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:45 pm

Wabberjocky wrote:Certainly trump is the spawn of Satan

Some say he is the Antichrist, though I'll be dissapointed if he was. I always envisioned the Antichrist, or Dajjal, as an evil genius supervillain who manipulated the world with terrifying effectivity and bring about a New World Order.
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Postby Atheris » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:50 pm

Solvokina wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
The 'I can't stomach voting for Hillary' crowd.

Hillary is the sort of person to get assassinated through the white house

Be careful saying shit like that.

Region of Dwipantara wrote:
Wabberjocky wrote:Certainly trump is the spawn of Satan

Some say he is the Antichrist, though I'll be dissapointed if he was. I always envisioned the Antichrist, or Dajjal, as an evil genius supervillain who manipulated the world with terrifying effectivity and bring about a New World Order.

I thought the Antichrist was Emperor Nero.

That's for the Christian Discussion Thread, though.
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Postby Solvokina » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:54 pm

Atheris wrote:
Solvokina wrote:Hillary is the sort of person to get assassinated through the white house

Be careful saying shit like that.

Gotta express my hatred for Hillary somehow. Probably not the best way to go around it

inb4 "banned because you advocated for a political figure to get assassinated"
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Postby Atheris » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:56 pm

Solvokina wrote:
Atheris wrote:Be careful saying shit like that.

Gotta express my hatred for Hillary somehow. Probably not the best way to go around it

inb4 "banned because you advocated for a political figure to get assassinated"

If she does become President and you say that when she is, you can get arrested. Just a heads up.
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Postby Solvokina » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:59 pm

Atheris wrote:
Solvokina wrote:Gotta express my hatred for Hillary somehow. Probably not the best way to go around it

inb4 "banned because you advocated for a political figure to get assassinated"

If she does become President and you say that when she is, you can get arrested. Just a heads up.

What a shame. Too bad I live in Australia
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Postby Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:03 pm

Atheris wrote:
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:Well I mean Trump also had better tactics than Clinton in the campaign. Also what section of the population did he specifically tap into?

Correctly if I'm wrong, but I think Batman means rural nationalists.

Then he's wrong, considering what a tiny minority any type of American nationalist is.

It's just that Republicans and Democrats split the electorate 50/50, and because Bernie supporters weren't going to "vote blue no matter who," Trump got into office. (Not saying that Hillary would've been any better lol)
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Doesn't Christianity have a history of being staunch against Democracy? What with the "divine right of kings" and whatnot.

Also Trump aint gonna do what you think he will because he's a loose populist lol.
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Postby Atheris » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:05 pm

Solvokina wrote:
Atheris wrote:If she does become President and you say that when she is, you can get arrested. Just a heads up.

What a shame. Too bad I live in Australia

Ah. My bad.
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