US GDP to fall by -32.9%, Europe's by -40.3%

[The Black Forrest]

I will give you the fact check link about it so you can see the arguements.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/democ ... x-comment/

He declared it the new democratic hoax. It shows where his concerns lay.

You will also see a list of tweets in the ad which shows all the effort to downplay if not ignore the problem.

The effort against the effort to control the pandemic is still going on. The governor of Arkansas said there was no link between opening the state and increased infection rates. Louie Gohmert is trying to suggest he got covid because of the mask as it made him touch his face.

Did you even read the link you posted?

La xinga wrote:

And they were refuted. Post more how about?

Did you? I am not seeing any arguments from you.

You are almost sounding like a certain cuban......

So far your only defense of Trump handling things well was he made you feel better and it’s the governors problems.

Do you have anything to offer he has done things well?

Oh and the link? My googlefu is only turning up many many links of his contradictions of himself. The one I was thinking of I heard on Chris Cuomos show......

[Region of Dwipantara]

Can the title change? Annualised fall of 32.9%, this quarter I believe fell by 10%.

Otherwise it sounds like 32% of US economy just vanished - which isn’t true.

But panic is more interesting.

Panic panic panic.

Open the economy full steam we cant have 1/3 the economy disappearing.

Who knows. Hire some PR teams, and y'all can try my own country's strategy of "who gives a fuck lmao". I mean, our GDP contraction is still single digits, so it is working somewhat. Sure, that will probably came at the price of the death of hundreds of thousands. But they are dispensable on the eyes of the ruling oligarchs, and national stability is a far more important priority anyways, so full steam ahead. In the mean time, let's just pray that the vaccine will come ASAP.

[Heloin]

I think that you don't know what a crisis is. Scratch that, you don't know what a crisis is. If the only crisis in the fuckin' world is the single worst conflict humanity has ever suffered then I don't know how to respond to that.

People can have different definitions of stuff.

Most differing definitions are at least in the same ballpark. Your definition is like claiming Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station is at the North Pole.

[La Xinga]

People can have different definitions of stuff.

Most differing definitions are at least in the same ballpark. Your definition is like claiming Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station is at the North Pole.

No.

Did you even read the link you posted?

And they were refuted. Post more how about?

Did you? I am not seeing any arguments from you.

You are almost sounding like a certain cuban......

So far your only defense of Trump handling things well was he made you feel better and it’s the governors problems.

Do you have anything to offer he has done things well?

Oh and the link? My googlefu is only turning up many many links of his contradictions of himself. The one I was thinking of I heard on Chris Cuomos show......

1. I did.
2. ?
3. Not in COVID. There wasn't much he could do without being called going passed his authority.
4. Of course you heard it on CNN!

[Gaazikumukh]

He said it was a hoax because the Dems turned it into one? HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT HE MEANT? You can't, exactly.

I will take this particular line here to say that, from a linguistics perspective, this is bullshit. Conversations, like political arguments (good ones anyway) are two-way events that require active participation from the listener and speaker. Monologues, however, such as speeches, or tweets fired off into the void, are reliant on the speaker making his meaning clear for the duration of the monologue.

If people misconstrued his meaning, that is his fault for not being clear. He has every opportunity to choose his words wisely and phrase everything in a way that his audience will understand. You're correct, for once. We don't know exactly what he meant, but we do know what he said, and what he said is more important than what he meant because we can't know what he meant, so we have to go off what he said. Make sense? If there is a misunderstanding down the line, then it's his fault for not clarifying his intent properly.

Or... Or, hear me out, he didn't think at all when saying stuff like that, which is dangerous and negligent.

OR... even worse, he DID mean what he said, in which case the burden is on the people insisting he said something different, making up things out of sheer denial.

Now, I must get on with my life, have a good day. If you want to take some hollow satisfaction in being the guy with the last comment, sure, go ahead and have fun with that.

[Attempted Socialism]

But panic is more interesting.

Panic panic panic.

Open the economy full steam we cant have 1/3 the economy disappearing.

Who knows. Hire some PR teams, and y'all can try my own country's strategy of "who gives a fuck lmao". I mean, our GDP contraction is still single digits, so it is working somewhat. Sure, that will probably came at the price of the death of hundreds of thousands. But they are dispensable on the eyes of the ruling oligarchs, and national stability is a far more important priority anyways, so full steam ahead. In the mean time, let's just pray that the vaccine will come ASAP.

That's really the thing, isn't it? Here, otherwise sound businesses are forced to either risk the lives of their employees, or default. But without a better social safety net, default will mean lost jobs, people on the streets, increased hunger etc. Even to the workers, they kind of risk their lives either way. So one alternative becomes moot, in a sense, and the other is a massive bailout of regular people, which both parties are ideologically opposed to.

[La Xinga]

He said it was a hoax because the Dems turned it into one? HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT HE MEANT? You can't, exactly.

I will take this particular line here to say that, from a linguistics perspective, this is bullshit. Conversations, like political arguments (good ones anyway) are two-way events that require active participation from the listener and speaker. Monologues, however, such as speeches, or tweets fired off into the void, are reliant on the speaker making his meaning clear for the duration of the monologue.

If people misconstrued his meaning, that is his fault for not being clear. He has every opportunity to choose his words wisely and phrase everything in a way that his audience will understand. You're correct, for once. We don't know exactly what he meant, but we do know what he said, and what he said is more important than what he meant because we can't know what he meant, so we have to go off what he said. Make sense? If there is a misunderstanding down the line, then it's his fault for not clarifying his intent properly.

Or... Or, hear me out, he didn't think at all when saying stuff like that, which is dangerous and negligent.

OR... even worse, he DID mean what he said, in which case the burden is on the people insisting he said something different, making up things out of sheer denial.

Now, I must get on with my life, have a good day. If you want to take some hollow satisfaction in being the guy with the last comment, sure, go ahead and have fun with that.

An argument isn't a listener and a speaker.

No it doesn't. He can't know what people would find clear and what not.

[The Black Forrest]

Most differing definitions are at least in the same ballpark. Your definition is like claiming Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station is at the North Pole.

No.

Did you? I am not seeing any arguments from you.

You are almost sounding like a certain cuban......

So far your only defense of Trump handling things well was he made you feel better and it’s the governors problems.

Do you have anything to offer he has done things well?

Oh and the link? My googlefu is only turning up many many links of his contradictions of himself. The one I was thinking of I heard on Chris Cuomos show......

1. I did.
2. ?
3. Not in COVID. There wasn't much he could do without being called going passed his authority.
4. Of course you heard it on CNN!

1) Ok. Where is your argument? Simple dismissal is usually a sign people didn’t read or watch....
3) Ah no. A plan of action, call for supplies, etc? NOBODY would declare he was going past his authority. Seriously; have you really deluded yourself into thinking he been a great leader with covid?
4) Can you prove CNN lies? Can you prove Cuomo lies? It being CNN is yet another simple minded conservative dismissal. Seriously, you really thing trump is about truth?

[Gaazikumukh]

An argument isn't a listener and a speaker.

Funnily enough this is very in-character, given that you are in an argument yet not listening to anything that anyone else is saying.

[La Xinga]

An argument isn't a listener and a speaker.

Funnily enough this is very in-character, given that you are in an argument yet not listening to anything that anyone else is saying.

?

[Heloin]

Most differing definitions are at least in the same ballpark. Your definition is like claiming Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station is at the North Pole.

No.

You're pretending a world wide crisis isn't a crisis. The reason your giving me for that response is your "definition is different". There is an economic crisis right now, you can read the thread title, I'm not trying to trick you. How are you looking at an unmitigated disaster and saying "this is fine"?

[La Xinga]

No.

1. I did.
2. ?
3. Not in COVID. There wasn't much he could do without being called going passed his authority.
4. Of course you heard it on CNN!

1) Ok. Where is your argument? Simple dismissal is usually a sign people didn’t read or watch....
3) Ah no. A plan of action, call for supplies, etc? NOBODY would declare he was going past his authority. Seriously; have you really deluded yourself into thinking he been a great leader with covid?
4) Can you prove CNN lies? Can you prove Cuomo lies? It being CNN is yet another simple minded conservative dismissal. Seriously, you really thing trump is about truth?

1. My last post at AS.
2. Whatever happened to 2?
3. Plan of action he left with the govs. Call for supplies? GM and Ford made stuffy stuff. Bill de Blasio literally got rid of the ventilators.
4. Chris COumo and DOn Lemon literally accused Donald Trump saying misused instead of abuse on his speech of police violence. Tell me that's not biased?

[La Xinga]

No.

You're pretending a world wide crisis isn't a crisis. The reason your giving me for that response is your "definition is different". There is an economic crisis right now, you can read the thread title, I'm not trying to trick you. How are you looking at an unmitigated disaster and saying "this is fine"?

1. We talkin about US, not world. And we're not talking about economics. Well, that was what this thread was about, but we got /thread.
2. Did I say it's fine?!

[Heloin]

You're pretending a world wide crisis isn't a crisis. The reason your giving me for that response is your "definition is different". There is an economic crisis right now, you can read the thread title, I'm not trying to trick you. How are you looking at an unmitigated disaster and saying "this is fine"?

1. We talkin about US, not world. And we're not talking about economics. Well, that was what this thread was about, but we got /thread.

Did you read the thread title? And do you think that what happens in America doesn't effect the rest of the world?

2. Did I say it's fine?!

If you even for a second think anything is under control right now then yes, you think this is fine.

[The Black Forrest]

1) Ok. Where is your argument? Simple dismissal is usually a sign people didn’t read or watch....
3) Ah no. A plan of action, call for supplies, etc? NOBODY would declare he was going past his authority. Seriously; have you really deluded yourself into thinking he been a great leader with covid?
4) Can you prove CNN lies? Can you prove Cuomo lies? It being CNN is yet another simple minded conservative dismissal. Seriously, you really thing trump is about truth?

1. My last post at AS.
2. Whatever happened to 2?
3. Plan of action he left with the govs. Call for supplies? GM and Ford made stuffy stuff. Bill de Blasio literally got rid of the ventilators.
4. Chris COumo and DOn Lemon literally accused Donald Trump saying misused instead of abuse on his speech of police violence. Tell me that's not biased?

1) Missing it.
2) A certain Cuban on this site is a trump lover.
3) Much of that after the fact. He never had a plan and still doesn’t have a plan.
4) Here is thing of that. Bias doesn’t make what is presented false. If you can show they are making false statements, by all means do so. Seriously; you one of those “fake news” people?

[La Xinga]

1. We talkin about US, not world. And we're not talking about economics. Well, that was what this thread was about, but we got /thread.

Did you read the thread title? And do you think that what happens in America doesn't effect the rest of the world?

2. Did I say it's fine?!

If you even for a second think anything is under control right now then yes, you think this is fine.

1. Not everything, but some.
2. No. Not at all. Under Control does not mean fine.

[Juristonia]

Did you read the thread title? And do you think that what happens in America doesn't effect the rest of the world?


If you even for a second think anything is under control right now then yes, you think this is fine.

1. Not everything, but some.
2. No. Not at all. Under Control does not mean fine.

So how about we start simple and you explain how, exactly, having record numbers of cases in any way shape or form constitutes as having things "under control".

[La Xinga]

1. Not everything, but some.
2. No. Not at all. Under Control does not mean fine.

So how about we start simple and you explain how, exactly, having record numbers of cases in any way shape or form constitutes as having things "under control".

Since people trying to find stuff, we have management, and it's not everywhere.

[Juristonia]

So how about we start simple and you explain how, exactly, having record numbers of cases in any way shape or form constitutes as having things "under control".

Since people trying to find stuff, we have management, and it's not everywhere.

Apparently simple is still too complicated for you.

Let's try again.

Record number of cases.
Numbers rising rapidly.
More and more people getting sick and/or dying.

Under control. How?

[La Xinga]

Since people trying to find stuff, we have management, and it's not everywhere.

Apparently simple is still too complicated for you.

Let's try again.

Record number of cases.
Numbers rising rapidly.
More and more people getting sick and/or dying.

Under control. How?

So how about we start simple and you explain how, exactly, having record numbers of cases in any way shape or form constitutes as having things "under control".

Since people trying to find stuff, we have management, and it's not everywhere.

[The Black Forrest]

So how about we start simple and you explain how, exactly, having record numbers of cases in any way shape or form constitutes as having things "under control".

Since people trying to find stuff, we have management, and it's not everywhere.

I am not sure you are presenting what you think you are presenting.

Are you suggesting people are on top of things and infections are not going up?

It’s not everywhere? It’s in every state.....

[La Xinga]

Since people trying to find stuff, we have management, and it's not everywhere.

I am not sure you are presenting what you think you are presenting.

Are you suggesting people are on top of things and infections are not going up?

It’s not everywhere? It’s in every state.....

Yes.
No.

New York has not that many cases.

[Fartsniffage]

Since people trying to find stuff, we have management, and it's not everywhere.

I am not sure you are presenting what you think you are presenting.

Are you suggesting people are on top of things and infections are not going up?

It’s not everywhere? It’s in every state.....

But not every single person has it. Checkmate libs.

[Post War America]

I am not sure you are presenting what you think you are presenting.

Are you suggesting people are on top of things and infections are not going up?

It’s not everywhere? It’s in every state.....

Yes.
No.

New York has not that many cases.

They literally had to start burying people in mass graves Hart Island because they had overflow.

[The Black Forrest]

I am not sure you are presenting what you think you are presenting.

Are you suggesting people are on top of things and infections are not going up?

It’s not everywhere? It’s in every state.....

Yes.
No.

New York has not that many cases.

I am not sure what you are trying to argue dude.