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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:40 am

Dude's been doing the job for almost four years and he still doesn't have any notion what his powers are.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:42 am

This actually doesn’t surprise me. A friend of mine showed how tiktok monitors the device’s clipboard, and anytime the content of the device’s clipboard changes, it sends the new contents back to China.

This is true even if it’s running in the background.

It was barred on corporate devices and personal devices contractors use for work months ago.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:45 am

Galloism wrote:This actually doesn’t surprise me. A friend of mine showed how tiktok monitors the device’s clipboard, and anytime the content of the device’s clipboard changes, it sends the new contents back to China.

This is true even if it’s running in the background.


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Postby ArenaC » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:45 am

YES!
GenZ (which is a generation including myself) can finally use platforms where they don't create cringe 24/7!

None of it was funny. Glad it had a reason to fuck off.
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An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Keep copying those pictures of Winnie the Pooh.

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Postby -Astoria- » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:49 am

ArenaC wrote:YES!
GenZ (which is a generation including myself) can finally use platforms where they don't create cringe 24/7!

None of it was funny. Glad it had a reason to fuck off.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:54 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Galloism wrote:This actually doesn’t surprise me. A friend of mine showed how tiktok monitors the device’s clipboard, and anytime the content of the device’s clipboard changes, it sends the new contents back to China.

This is true even if it’s running in the background.


Keep copying those pictures of Winnie the Pooh.

Yeah.

Meanwhile, just FYI, they’re vacuuming up everything that might be on a clipboard. Credit card numbers. Bank accounts. Pictures of your grandma. Whatever you happen to copy and paste.
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Postby Torisakia » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:56 am

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While people will put forth the "but American apps collect our citizen's personal data too", they're collecting data about their own people which would happen regardless if apps existed or not. In this case, a foreign opponent is collecting our citizen's data (if the claims are true) and that's no good.

Every app collects personal data in some way, shape, or form, but it all depends on where that data is going. It's all an ethics issue that even the best scientists in the world can't solve.
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Postby Cisairse » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:57 am

Galloism wrote:This actually doesn’t surprise me. A friend of mine showed how tiktok monitors the device’s clipboard, and anytime the content of the device’s clipboard changes, it sends the new contents back to China.

This is true even if it’s running in the background.

It was barred on corporate devices and personal devices contractors use for work months ago.

Every app that uses Google location services does this.
Now it's clear as a pillar of smoke
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And broken Starbucks glass

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Postby Atheris » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:57 am

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Postby Cisairse » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:58 am

Torisakia wrote:

While people will put forth the "but American apps collect our citizen's personal data too", they're collecting data about their own people which would happen regardless if apps existed or not. In this case, a foreign opponent is collecting our citizen's data (if the claims are true) and that's no good.

Every app collects personal data in some way, shape, or form, but it all depends on where that data is going. It's all an ethics issue that even the best scientists in the world can't solve.

Google being domestic does not in any way make them not an opponent.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:58 am

Cisairse wrote:
Galloism wrote:This actually doesn’t surprise me. A friend of mine showed how tiktok monitors the device’s clipboard, and anytime the content of the device’s clipboard changes, it sends the new contents back to China.

This is true even if it’s running in the background.

It was barred on corporate devices and personal devices contractors use for work months ago.

Every app that uses Google location services does this.

Source?
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New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Cisairse » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:00 am

Galloism wrote:
Cisairse wrote:Every app that uses Google location services does this.

Source?

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06 ... oard-data/

The library was fixed but a handful of apps haven't updated. Notice the "and 32 other iOS apps" bit. This isn't a TikTok thing.
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Postby Torisakia » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:01 am

Cisairse wrote:
Torisakia wrote:

While people will put forth the "but American apps collect our citizen's personal data too", they're collecting data about their own people which would happen regardless if apps existed or not. In this case, a foreign opponent is collecting our citizen's data (if the claims are true) and that's no good.

Every app collects personal data in some way, shape, or form, but it all depends on where that data is going. It's all an ethics issue that even the best scientists in the world can't solve.

Google being domestic does not in any way make them not an opponent.

Maybe so. But it would be pretty hard to ban Google around these parts.
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Postby Atheris » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:01 am

Cisairse wrote:
Galloism wrote:Source?

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06 ... oard-data/

The library was fixed but a handful of apps haven't updated. Notice the "and 32 other iOS apps" bit. This isn't a TikTok thing.

Good thing I use the superior android B)
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Postby Cisairse » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:02 am

Torisakia wrote:
Cisairse wrote:Google being domestic does not in any way make them not an opponent.

Maybe so. But it would be pretty hard to ban Google around these parts.

Not really.
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Postby Atheris » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:02 am

Cisairse wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Maybe so. But it would be pretty hard to ban Google around these parts.

Not really.

They're one of the largest companies in America. Yeah, it would be pretty hard.
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Postby Torisakia » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:03 am

Cisairse wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Maybe so. But it would be pretty hard to ban Google around these parts.

Not really.

I like DuckDuckGo better anyway, though I doubt the whole "full privacy" thing it advertises.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:03 am

Cisairse wrote:
Galloism wrote:Source?

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/06 ... oard-data/

The library was fixed but a handful of apps haven't updated. Notice the "and 32 other iOS apps" bit. This isn't a TikTok thing.

Notably, the article points out tiktok promised to stop and made it more aggressive instead, while quite a few others stopped.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:04 am

Torisakia wrote:
Cisairse wrote:Google being domestic does not in any way make them not an opponent.

Maybe so. But it would be pretty hard to ban Google around these parts.

It's also going to be hard to ban TikTok because, shockingly, the US Constitution doesn't give the President the power to just ban things he doesn't like.
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Postby Cisairse » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:06 am

Atheris wrote:
Cisairse wrote:Not really.

They're one of the largest companies in America. Yeah, it would be pretty hard.

We've broken up "the largest company in America" before. Twice! We can do it again.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:07 am

Picairn wrote:Wonder how this ban will overlap with the First Amendment, although I can't say I'll miss Tiktok.

If a piece of media is deemed to pose a legitimate threat to national security, it can be banned. Probably the most famous example of this is when Lincoln banned any media company (Newspapers, journals, etc...) from publishing any piece that showed the Confederacy in a positive light or else risk heavy fines or forced dissolution.

Yeah, this has been a major debate topic in the government for a while now, and the general consessous is... They're not really sure how constitutional this is either.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:08 am

Ifreann wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Maybe so. But it would be pretty hard to ban Google around these parts.

It's also going to be hard to ban TikTok because, shockingly, the US Constitution doesn't give the President the power to just ban things he doesn't like.


But, but. He said tomorrow. Surely he wouldn't promise it if he wasn't really sure!
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Postby Torisakia » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:08 am

Ifreann wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Maybe so. But it would be pretty hard to ban Google around these parts.

It's also going to be hard to ban TikTok because, shockingly, the US Constitution doesn't give the President the power to just ban things he doesn't like.

I'm almost certain it has been done in the past. I didn't pass American Government with flying colors though, so I'll probably need to be corrected on that.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:09 am

New haven america wrote:
Picairn wrote:Wonder how this ban will overlap with the First Amendment, although I can't say I'll miss Tiktok.

If a piece of media is deemed to pose a legitimate threat to national security, it can be banned. Probably the most famous example of this is when Lincoln banned any media company (Newspapers, journals, etc...) from publishing any piece that showed the Confederacy in a positive light or else risk heavy fines or forced dissolution.

Yeah, this has been a major debate topic in the government for a while now, and the general consessous is... They're not really sure how constitutional this is either.


I'm guessing Lincoln's thing was during a state of emergency?
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