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Postby Antibuda » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:00 am

What's next, Trump bans Fortnite?
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Postby CoraSpia » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:01 am

Juristonia wrote:Even a broken clock, etc.

Considering it's basically a data collection program barely disguised as an app, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it disappearing.

People choose to use it though.
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Postby Twicetagram and JYPE » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:02 am

Antibuda wrote:What's next, Trump bans Fortnite?

What is Epic Games trying to come up with? A 10-year-old army who will take over Area 51? I shudder to think.
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Postby Skyhooked » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:07 am

Not that I exactly care about this new fancy Tik Tok, but ol' Trump thinks he can trump the First Ammendment, and that's can create a precendent, if I know a thing about American justice system. This can start a chain of events, that can go anywhere, from Trump being impeached to US actually becoming that police state, many fear.
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Postby HXVZ-07031017 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:09 am

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Postby Rosmana » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:10 am

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Postby Cisairse » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:10 am

wtf based trump
Now it's clear as a pillar of smoke
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And broken Starbucks glass

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Postby Juristonia » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:12 am

CoraSpia wrote:
Juristonia wrote:Even a broken clock, etc.

Considering it's basically a data collection program barely disguised as an app, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it disappearing.

People choose to use it though.

Yeah, people are dumb. That's not news.
It's also not relevant.
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Postby Nuroblav » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:12 am

Cisairse wrote:wtf based trump

Yeah, apart from the First Amendment and everything, mainstream TikTok get rekt lololololololololol
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Postby Skyhooked » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:15 am

And can anyone explain me, what's so bad about Tik Tok? Is it cursed or something? I ain't a boomer, but I don't know shit about this thingy, except some vague rumors about it's "degradation" and "stupidity". Besides... all social networks collect data one way or another.
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Refreshing News:
Shawn Bjornson officially proclaims, that Vicarius Dei Edgar, who oppressed our people for 25 years, was a heretic, and thus, we shall let our old grudges go and officially forgive christianity! Even before this, we let them have equal right and opportunities and freedom from all and any discrimination, because our cause demanded it! But now, it's because we truly feel that way!

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:16 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Ironic that the Trump administration is so concerned about TikTok collecting personal data and information on Americans for the PRC yet most, if not all, major US tech companies and even the US government itself does the exact same thing. This is an utterly meaningless endeavor.


Not entirely: TikTok has done vastly more than Trump to stop corona with its viral (pun intended) handwashing dance vids.

If even a shameless datacollector does more than you do to prevent loss of life, you have to erase the shame.
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Postby Rusozak » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:17 am

Antibuda wrote:What's next, Trump bans Fortnite?


That I actually wouldn't be mad about.

But I feel we're going to be getting a lot of "Trump to..." titled things to talk about for the next 4 months.
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Postby Vivolkha » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:19 am

Good riddance, TikTok is just terrible.

In a more serious note, data collection by Chinese companies and tech firms should be closely scrutinied.
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Postby Nuroblav » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:19 am

Skyhooked wrote:Besides, can anyone explain me, what's so bad about Tik Tok? Is it cursed or something? I ain't a boomer, but I don't know shit about this thingy, except some vague rumors about it's "degradation" and "stupidity".

The mainstream side consists mainly of random people dancing to shitty songs (apart from MSI, MSI are based), which is kinda boring.

There's a side called Alt TikTok (though I haven't seen much of it) which is basically an equivalent of Vine (which was a service with short videos). Apparently it's better, but I can't exactly say from experience.
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Postby Caucca » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:20 am

As if american apps didn't spy people too. Such hypocrisy

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Postby Skyhooked » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:27 am

Nuroblav wrote:The mainstream side consists mainly of random people dancing to shitty songs (apart from MSI, MSI are based), which is kinda boring.

There's a side called Alt TikTok (though I haven't seen much of it) which is basically an equivalent of Vine (which was a service with short videos). Apparently it's better, but I can't exactly say from experience.


Then why do the people even care so much? And why should anyone bother to take it down? This is just pointless!
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Our country offers: Alcohol, guns, cigars, weed, gambling, beaches and tons of souvenirs. And our current special: PL-74 Plasma rifle 25% discount!


Refreshing News:
Shawn Bjornson officially proclaims, that Vicarius Dei Edgar, who oppressed our people for 25 years, was a heretic, and thus, we shall let our old grudges go and officially forgive christianity! Even before this, we let them have equal right and opportunities and freedom from all and any discrimination, because our cause demanded it! But now, it's because we truly feel that way!

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Postby Cisairse » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:27 am

Skyhooked wrote:And can anyone explain me, what's so bad about Tik Tok? Is it cursed or something? I ain't a boomer, but I don't know shit about this thingy, except some vague rumors about it's "degradation" and "stupidity". Besides... all social networks collect data one way or another.

It's a spy system for the Chinese government
Now it's clear as a pillar of smoke
The details of the above post are subject to leftist infighting.

And broken Starbucks glass

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Postby Cisairse » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:27 am

Caucca wrote:As if american apps didn't spy people too. Such hypocrisy

Yes, Trump should ban them all.

No more apps. Society has progressed beyond the need for apps.
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Now it's clear as a pillar of smoke
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And broken Starbucks glass

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Postby Nuroblav » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:31 am

Skyhooked wrote:Then why do the people even care so much? And why should anyone bother to take it down? This is just pointless!

Because China /s
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Postby New Vedan » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:31 am

Skyhooked wrote:And can anyone explain me, what's so bad about Tik Tok? Is it cursed or something? I ain't a boomer, but I don't know shit about this thingy, except some vague rumors about it's "degradation" and "stupidity". Besides... all social networks collect data one way or another.




https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.co ... 1594157084

I say good riddance personally.

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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:33 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Ironic that the Trump administration is so concerned about TikTok collecting personal data and information on Americans for the PRC yet most, if not all, major US tech companies and even the US government itself does the exact same thing. This is an utterly meaningless endeavor.


Agreed. Advertisers shouldn't be able to collect our shopping or search data, and neither should any government be able to collect information from people without a criminal warrant or sufficient reason.
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Postby San Kalungsod Saludong » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:33 am

Ho shit, how am I going to get my fill of e-girls and e-boys, if Tiktok is gone? :lol:

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Postby CoraSpia » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:34 am

Juristonia wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:People choose to use it though.

Yeah, people are dumb. That's not news.
It's also not relevant.

Oh are we on the 'protect people from themselves' stage?
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Skyhooked
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Postby Skyhooked » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:36 am

Well, alright then. I didn't care for Tik Tok anyway. And I never liked Chinese government too. (If I was a Chinese dude, I'd get -100 social score points for such thoughts alone.) Now, ain't exactly religious, but let's pray, that this decision will not create a precedent.
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If you wanna know more about this haven of sin: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=418281&start=1

Our country offers: Alcohol, guns, cigars, weed, gambling, beaches and tons of souvenirs. And our current special: PL-74 Plasma rifle 25% discount!


Refreshing News:
Shawn Bjornson officially proclaims, that Vicarius Dei Edgar, who oppressed our people for 25 years, was a heretic, and thus, we shall let our old grudges go and officially forgive christianity! Even before this, we let them have equal right and opportunities and freedom from all and any discrimination, because our cause demanded it! But now, it's because we truly feel that way!

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Postby -Astoria- » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:38 am

Nuroblav wrote:
Skyhooked wrote:Then why do the people even care so much? And why should anyone bother to take it down? This is just pointless!

Because China /s
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